Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Sven Klomp
I didn't thought about the subject. Hopefully, nobody will put me on a blacklist ;-) On Tuesday 02 October 2007 00:49, Robin Paulson wrote: > On 02/10/2007, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The idea from the Jackito sounded good to me - use the screen surface > > as the audio transdu

Re: Update from OpenMoko

2007-10-01 Thread Jørgen P. Tjernø
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Will I be able to use GTA02 as a phone? Or will I still be required to > have the neo plugged in via usb tied to a computer and ssh in, and face > east while standing on one leg to make a phone call? > > More direct questio

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Jørgen P. Tjernø
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Knapp wrote: > While we're on this topic, I just wanted to confirm if I use one of the > rootfs images from ScaredyCat's buildhost, can I use this with a) the > kernelfs that came with the qtopia preview snapshot and b) with one of > the kernelfs s

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Kamisamanou Burgess
On 10/1/07, Uncle Kridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kamisamanou Burgess wrote: > > I don't like that the list is loaded with stuff like > > "IR portRemote control applications Would be great to use openmoko as a > > Hamony remote controller." > > I don't quite see the necessity in running you

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Uncle Kridley
Kamisamanou Burgess wrote: > I don't like that the list is loaded with stuff like > "IR portRemote control applications Would be great to use openmoko as a > Hamony remote controller." > I don't quite see the necessity in running you tv with your cellphone I don't have much use for a fancy TV remo

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Tim Knapp
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 10:54 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: > Michael Welter wrote: > > > > > > Lorn Potter wrote: > >> Michael Welter wrote: > >>> I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I > >>> performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos > >>> (like you s

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Michael Welter
Scaredycat's builds are at http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/. Thank you Scaredcat. Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeat

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael Welter wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview ima

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Michael Welter
Lorn Potter wrote: Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an echo problem (sidetone), wh

Re: Update from OpenMoko

2007-10-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will I be able to use GTA02 as a phone? We hope so, but we won't hold up release of the hardware if the software is incomplete. The November release of GTA02 is still aimed at developers: The hardware will be finished, but the software will still be under developm

Re: Update from OpenMoko

2007-10-01 Thread openmoko
Will I be able to use GTA02 as a phone? Or will I still be required to have the neo plugged in via usb tied to a computer and ssh in, and face east while standing on one leg to make a phone call? More direct question: What state will the software be in when the GTA02 ships? (Not that I will buy a

Re: Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Michael Welter
Sorry, extension 820 is the 1000Hz tone. Extension 821 is the echo test/ Michael Welter wrote: I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). This has been on the list

Acoustic feedback

2007-10-01 Thread Michael Welter
I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see with two opposing mirrors). This has been on the list before, but OM will not send DTMF digits after the call has been set up. Also OM is not able to

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Kamisamanou Burgess
I'll agree with that. I actually like the vibration idea. I don't like that the list is loaded with stuff like "IR portRemote control applications Would be great to use openmoko as a Hamony remote controller." I don't quite see the necessity in running you tv with your cellphone On 10/1/07, Jeffre

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Robin Paulson
On 02/10/2007, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The idea from the Jackito sounded good to me - use the screen surface > as the audio transducer, that way if you play a low-frequency sound > you can feel it with your fingers. And it's much lower-power than > using the vibrator. But I'm

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
The idea from the Jackito sounded good to me - use the screen surface as the audio transducer, that way if you play a low-frequency sound you can feel it with your fingers. And it's much lower-power than using the vibrator. But I'm not sure how you attach a piezo to the screen; maybe the idea is

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
> It seems that most the things on this wish list are entirely unnecessary > and battery consuming I am not sure what else is on the list, but I think this (vibration feedback) is a pretty useful feature, especially for non-geeks. Remember, a lot of think a GUI on a computer isn't needed, but ho

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Kamisamanou Burgess
It seems that most the things on this wish list are entirely unnecessary and battery consuming On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? > Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Pius A. Uzamere II
Yep, I actually deleted the original message without a second thought! On 10/1/07, Tim Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know about that rest of you guys, but with this email title, I > assumed this was spam. > > On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > d

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
funny spam On Monday 01 October 2007 04:41:38 pm Tim Shannon wrote: > I don't know about that rest of you guys, but with this email title, I > assumed this was spam. > > On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Tim Shannon
I don't know about that rest of you guys, but with this email title, I assumed this was spam. On 10/1/07, Sven Klomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? > Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very i

Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Sven Klomp
Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_L

Re: Please welcome Graeme Gregory

2007-10-01 Thread Steven Le Roux
Welcome Greg ;) On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:06:25 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Community, > > Today I'm extremely excited to announce our latest employee: Graeme > Gregory. He's going to be our OpenEmbedded and BitBake developer. (We're > really trying hard to add more dept

Please welcome Graeme Gregory

2007-10-01 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Community, Today I'm extremely excited to announce our latest employee: Graeme Gregory. He's going to be our OpenEmbedded and BitBake developer. (We're really trying hard to add more depth to our team to support this huge effort.) Graeme's primary task is maintaining the OpenMoko distri

Re: Nokia "open to anything" ads

2007-10-01 Thread Dylan McCall
I have no problem with this, myself. The Nokia phones are fairly open - not as much as the Neo, but they are definitely free to develop for. Their N800, for example, is effectively closed only in hardware. This is no worse than a huge number of PCs, whose hardware has closed drivers. Nokia is a ve

Re: AW: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones like OpenMoko

2007-10-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Friend, which type of drugs do you use to loose reality and fairness? People have different views on the world (even without drugs). And different goals for their life (e.g. Earn lots of $$$ vs. Freedom for Everything). Therefore, their conclusions what is correct and the "right" thing is d

Nokia "open to anything" ads

2007-10-01 Thread Adam
Ad: http://biotech9.getmyip.com/~jammy/nokia.jpg http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/639/nokiabo2.jpg "Open to anything" http://www.nseries.com/open I guess there are different definitions of "open." ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.

AW: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones like OpenMoko

2007-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, i guess - this is the result of Steve's heavy drug consumption in the early 70th's. The same story with the old Apple II and Mac -> hide hide hide - loosing realtity - what a mess for that kind of brain. cy >Ursprüngliche Nachricht >Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Datum: 28.09.2007 15:

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-10-01 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:21:54 +0200, Ken Yale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have 4 great ideas to discard or supplement the location cache: 1) CellID database inside the phone. ...or on a server, updated with contributions from many users. Note that such database can even be used by non-GPS-