What disk space size is needed to run "make openmoko-devel-image"?

2007-10-15 Thread Wave Zhang
I have used a 15G disk to run "make openmoko-devel-image", but it has been out of disk space. I have no idea of what disk size is OK to run "make openmoko-devel-image". ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-15 Thread Jay Vaughan
Absolutely agrree. GPS was one of my main points for buying the phone. I dont really care about the source for the driver as long as I can get the co-ordinates. Count me in the 'me too' crowd .. I'm really looking forward to having working GPS functionality on my GTA01, from the perspective of

Re: What disk space size is needed to run "make openmoko-devel-image"?

2007-10-15 Thread Gordon Syme
Wave Zhang wrote: > I have used a 15G disk to run "make openmoko-devel-image", but it has been > out of disk space. I have no idea of what disk size is OK to run "make > openmoko-devel-image". Add INHERIT += "rm_work" to build/conf/local.conf and you shouldn't need more than about 5.5GB -Gordon

Re: What disk space size is needed to run "make openmoko-devel-image"?

2007-10-15 Thread Wave Zhang
But I already have that in my local.conf. I past my moko/build/conf/local.conf as following: MACHINE = "fic-gta01" DISTRO = "openmoko" BUILD_ARCH = "i686" INHERIT += "rm_work" -Bo On 10/15/07, Gordon Syme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wave Zhang wrote: > > I have used a 15G disk to run "make op

Re: Some feedback from using the neo as a phone for a day

2007-10-15 Thread Thomas Wood
Hi Igor, It would be very useful if you could file your issues on the OpenMoko bug tracker at http://bugzilla.openmoko.org. This would ensure your issues are dealt with and you receive proper feedback from the developers. Regards, Thomas On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 22:38 -0400, Igor Foox wrote: > Yes

Re: What disk space size is needed to run "make openmoko-devel-image"?

2007-10-15 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 10/15/07, Wave Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I already have that in my local.conf. I past my > moko/build/conf/local.conf as following: > > MACHINE = "fic-gta01" > DISTRO = "openmoko" > BUILD_ARCH = "i686" > INHERIT += "rm_work" > > -Bo > > > On 10/15/07, Gordon Syme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-15 Thread Jay Vaughan
so no, we do want and require the source code to everything Change your government then. In the US for example, there are strict FCC-imposed regulations on how open certain portions of the carrier network can be, and this extends to the chip-level in consumer handsets. These regulati

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
I like the idea - especially because I always have full pockets and it takes hours to fish the phone out ;) Imho it should be possible to implement, a knock should give a peak you can't reach while walking and even if it happens, it shouldn't be that worse. 2007/10/14, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-15 Thread Richard Bennett
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:18:55 +0200, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so no, we do want and require the source code to everything Change your government then. Of course. This is but a small first step on the road to world domination ;o) __

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:57:52 +0200, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's also important to remember that the motion of picking up your phone should not lead to denial of the call... ;) The initial proposal mentioned muting the ringer, not denying the phone. It's perfectly OK to mute

Re: [Data & Calls] over [Wifi & Mesh network]

2007-10-15 Thread Francesco Pistillo
In my work group we need two phones GTA02v3. They say in the wiki that it can be available in october to qualified developers. How is the way to be "classified" qualified developers? Who to ask for? Francesco Pistillo Computer science department Bari University Italy _

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Kyle Bassett
I think the idea is great... I've designed a few control systems using accelerometers to time the ejection of parachutes on MPRs/HPRs (Medium/High Power Rockets). The biggest issue is how to interpret the data. One of the largest problems we've had to overcome with accelerometers is averaging the

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Ortwin Regel
But not while walking... Differentiating between motions and situations will be a big challenge. On 10/15/07, Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:57:52 +0200, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's also important to remember that the motion of picki

Re: Usability team?

2007-10-15 Thread london cowgirl
I'll do that! Thanks Thomas. Carla - Original Message From: Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Cc: london cowgirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:21:29 AM Subject: Re: Usability team? On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 07:14 -0700, lo

Re: interface design suggestions

2007-10-15 Thread london cowgirl
Dani We're attempting to put together a usability team and a user centered design process. Would you be interested in working with us and our findings? You have a good eye and I like the input you've provided. Carla White On 9/23/07, Dani Anon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I was thinking on

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Kero van Gelder
> But not while walking... Differentiating between motions and situations will > be a big challenge. Once my Neo knows how I walk, it can detect that I am walking and subtract the walking pattern from the accelero data. Remaining data contains noise from walking (hopefully noisy enough to go unde

Re: Some feedback from using the neo as a phone for a day

2007-10-15 Thread Kero van Gelder
> > - The dialer application has the "hangup" button on the top right of the > > screen when in a call. When you actually talk on the phone it's _really_ > > easy to touch that part of the screen with your face, which results in > > 3-4 accidental hangups per call. Oops. :-) - The "status" icons on

Re: interface design suggestions

2007-10-15 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
To be honest, I understand the concepts of better contrast etc, but the proposed interface is very blockish and not nearly as nice looking as the fades and the use of Orange in the current. I do understand that it is a quick mockup, and that I myself have had no suggestions (nor do I claim to k

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-15 Thread Pranav Desai
On 10/14/07, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15/10/2007, Pranav Desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Absolutely agrree. GPS was one of my main points for buying the phone. > > I dont really care about the source for the driver as long as I can > > get the co-ordinates. > > hmm. this a

Re: Usability team?

2007-10-15 Thread Justin Wong
Sorry for the slow reply, it's been a long week. As I stated in my previous email, I'm currently in university and am taking some courses in HCI. I'm interested in this as well and will join the openmoko-apps mailing list. Thanks, Justin On 10/12/07, Jeremy G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I co

Re: Some feedback from using the neo as a phone for a day

2007-10-15 Thread Igor Foox
On 10/15/07, Kero van Gelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - The dialer application has the "hangup" button on the top right of the > > > screen when in a call. When you actually talk on the phone it's _really_ > > > easy to touch that part of the screen with your face, which results in > > > 3-

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Kyle Bassett
The GPS should help with that... On 10/15/07, Kero van Gelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But not while walking... Differentiating between motions and situations > will > > be a big challenge. > > Once my Neo knows how I walk, it can detect that I am walking and subtract > the walking > patte

Re: [Data & Calls] over [Wifi & Mesh network]

2007-10-15 Thread Steven **
They're not available to anyone yet. -Steven On 10/15/07, Francesco Pistillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my work group we need two phones GTA02v3. They say in the wiki that it > can be available in october to qualified developers. > How is the way to be "classified" qualified developers? Wh

Re: interface design suggestions

2007-10-15 Thread Joshua Layne
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:19:57 -0500, Jeffrey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be honest, I understand the concepts of better contrast etc, but the > proposed interface is very blockish and not nearly as nice looking as the > fades and the use of Orange in the current. I do understand that i

Re: [Data & Calls] over [Wifi & Mesh network]

2007-10-15 Thread Joshua Layne
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:57:55 -0500, "Steven **" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They're not available to anyone yet. > > -Steven > I don't believe that is entirely true, given that they are on the third revision of GTA02 and I believe Thomas Wood has posted about working on both a GTA01 and a GTA

Re: [Data & Calls] over [Wifi & Mesh network]

2007-10-15 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Francesco, 1. OpenMoko never intends to qualify developers - anyone is welcome to participate. If you find a place on the wiki or website or anywhere else that mentions qualification, please let me know and I will fix it. 2. GTA02V3 was a fabrication prototype. We produced an extremely sma

Server Downtime 2007/10/25

2007-10-15 Thread Maximilian Bauer
Hello Community, there is a USV (power system) related downtime planed at our hosting location in Nuernberg Germany. It is scheduled for: * 25th of October - 4:30AM MET. Two of our OpenVZ Hosts are concerned so there is a whole bunch of VMs/services that will be unavailable for about 2 hours.

Re: interface design suggestions

2007-10-15 Thread Tim Erwin
I really like the mockup by Dani, I don't think the colours/blockish look are important as these can be changed by a theme engine but the use of screen space is excellent. The mockup is far more readable and the extra borders in the current theme are a waste of screen space. I think these concepts

Re: Some feedback from using the neo as a phone for a day

2007-10-15 Thread Lalo Martins
Also spracht Kero van Gelder (Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:03:08 +0200): >> I noticed that too. Maybe the panel applets process needs to run under >> a supervisor that will restart it? > > Nah, they (or one of them, since I think it's one application) should > simply not crash. > > Supervisors add comple