Re: New wiki page - Problems of typical "closed" phones

2008-02-04 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:55:07 +0100, JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I created a new page to list the problems of typical "closed" phones with the intention of informing potential Openmoko phone buyers. Instead of putting Manufacturer / Model / Operating System / Operator into one column with

Re: New wiki page - Problems of typical "closed" phones

2008-02-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 03 February 2008, JW wrote: > Hi Openmoko community > > I created a new page to list the problems of typical "closed" phones with > the intention of informing potential Openmoko phone buyers. > > Please add your examples to the 4 I included as a starting point. > Feedback welcome! :-) >

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Lionel Dricot
Hello, I'm highly interested in your software. I'm curious about a comparison with Maermo mapper. And also : how hard do you think it would be to port your TangoGPS to Maemo (Nokia N810) ? Great job ! On Feb 4, 2008 10:35 AM, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I wrote tangoG

tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hello, I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for Openmoko/Neo. It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current position and track if a gps signal is available. In order to run it you

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 10:51 +0100, Lionel Dricot wrote: > > I'm highly interested in your software. I'm curious about a comparison > with Maermo mapper. And also : how hard do you think it would be to > port your TangoGPS to Maemo (Nokia N810) ? > > Great job ! Quick answer: on a N810 you are ha

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Lionel Dricot
Thanks for the quick reply :-) So, if a I follow you, tango GPS and Maemo Mapper have the same exact goal (in terms of features). They only differ by their adaptation to their respective hardware ? I'm thinking about building a localisation-based feature both on OpenMoko and Maemo but with an hig

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread joerg
Am Mo 4. Februar 2008 schrieb Ian Darwin: > Marcus Bauer wrote: > > > > Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo > > with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen, > > whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and >

Re: Dates on the Wiki pages

2008-02-04 Thread joerg
Am Mo 4. Februar 2008 schrieb Christ van Willegen: > since everyone is editting at the moment... may I suggest > standardising dates on the wiki to ISO 8601 coding, or -mm-dd. 100% agree! j btw: hope there are metric screws used in NEO!? And ground = minus. ___

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Schmidt AndrĂ¡s
Hi community, Lionel Dricot wrote: - Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ? I am developing one: http://sf.net/projects/yamamap. See wiki on sourceforge for details. There is a demo on sourceforge but unluckily it does not work on the Linux devices yet (due to some incompatibilit

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:06:06 +0100, "Lionel Dricot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply :-) > > - Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ? > Navit ? (http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Main_Page) works on both, maemo and openmoko... -- Steven Le Roux [E

Re: Dates on the Wiki pages

2008-02-04 Thread Ian Darwin
Christ van Willegen wrote: Hello, since everyone is editting at the moment... may I suggest standardising dates on the wiki to ISO 8601 coding, or -mm-dd. Agree! 20080706 is clearer and much less troublesome to understand. I hope you mean "2008-07-06" not "20080706". [an inverted abo

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Ian Darwin
Marcus Bauer wrote: Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen, whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and to be usable without hardware buttons. Neo can use portrai

Re: OWFS on $WRT-router

2008-02-04 Thread Kyle Bassett
Chris, I understand you had posted to the incorrect mailing list, but your question intrigued me. The first link in the question does not work, is that the correct link? And for a UART, you definitely need level shifting (ie. like a MAX232, etc.) if connecting to +/-12v serial line, at the very

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 05/02/2008, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ? > > mapper - a port of maemo-mapper to non-maemo environments: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Onion/Mapper although getting it running can be a bit of a trial __

Dates on the Wiki pages

2008-02-04 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hello, since everyone is editting at the moment... may I suggest standardising dates on the wiki to ISO 8601 coding, or -mm-dd. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format for more information for what I summarize below. It seems that most of the world does _not_ use the mm/dd/ conventio

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Christopher Earl
May i suggest a button to A) stop trails and b) always auto center/follow. Good work though >>> Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/04/08 8:00 AM >>> Marcus Bauer wrote: > > Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo > with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 an

Re: support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

2008-02-04 Thread richard5
How about insted of worrying about the way it's encoded we just write it January 1, 2008. I think that's pretty much standard. People can get confused about 2008-07-06 as much as they can 06-07-2008. Quoting "Ron K. Jeffries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I agree with Christ van Willegen re: standard

support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

2008-02-04 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
I agree with Christ van Willegen re: standardising dates on the wiki to ISO 8601 coding, or -mm-dd. -- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

2008-02-04 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >How about insted of worrying about the way it's encoded we just write >it January >1, 2008. I think that's pretty much standard. In the US, it's standard. Pretty much any other place in the world, it's non-standard. The ISO representation is standard (by definition),

Re: I'm back with my neo.. where to begin?

2008-02-04 Thread Audrius Meskauskas
andy wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Guys, I don't want to start a whole "I've just bought a neo - what do I do" thread.. so I'm going to keep this short. Please RTFM at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973 Audrius

Re: support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

2008-02-04 Thread Joachim Steiger
Ian Darwin wrote: > No, they cannot. That is always, always year-month-day. It is an ISO > standard, is used in many countries (see the Wikipedia link in the OP), > and has been standard that way (maybe not de jure, but widely used) for > at least thirty years. The other is very commonly used both

Re: support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

2008-02-04 Thread richard5
No excuse other than they're not use to the way it's formatted. People in the US can get confused about 2008-06-07 because we don't use that here. Writing out January 1, 2008 is just basic plain lanuage that no one in the world can possibly get confused about. P.S. This is, hands down, the dum

Re: support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

2008-02-04 Thread Ian Darwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about instead of worrying about the way it's encoded we just write it January 1, 2008. I think that's pretty much standard. People can get confused about 2008-07-06 as much as they can 06-07-2008. No, they cannot. That is always, always year-month-day. It is an

Re: support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

2008-02-04 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
I myself am used to using dates like 04 Feb 2008. How about just inverting this order so it matches what you want, but the abbreviation of the month is used? Then nobody would get confused on what is the day & what is the month. Joachim Steiger wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: No, they cannot.

how to enable usb host mode?

2008-02-04 Thread Phani Kumar Kancharala
Hi, I have applied the patch cited at wiki and built the kernel. Now the problem is I could not able to find the usb_mode file in the path "/sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/". Does this file exits in advance or we have to create?? Are there any file need to be modified to get host mode up. than

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 4, 2008 2:35 AM, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for > Openmoko/Neo. > > It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching > them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current > position