Re: Kill The Clock

2008-02-13 Thread Tilman Baumann
This brings me to a idea. Do we have some central repository (wiki?) where all gconf options are documented? Since we don't have a control-GUI yet, this seems to me like a very nice thing to have... Christopher Earl wrote: Someone asked about killing the Huge clock that takes up the whole

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-13 Thread Nils Faerber
Jon Radel schrieb: Vasco Névoa wrote: Hi. Sorry to barge in like this, but I don't quite understand the problem to begin with... Isn't open source code by definition protected against subsequent patents? It is part of the patenting process to search for conflicting publications; if they

Re: Access Linux Platform SDK released

2008-02-13 Thread Tilman Baumann
Nils Faerber wrote: This is not very productive, leads to fragmentation and does not help many - only the shareholders of the lucky winner of that fight (and luck is meant literally, this is a game of luck or have you seen the better one win in recent years? I just way Win :) Not really.

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-13 Thread zBog BIV
Patenting OpenMoko, and then granting everyone perpetual, free use of the patent is the way to go. Everyone means those who does not enforce their patents against freedom software projects. If they do go enforce their patent, they will likely go against OpenMoko, should they find a weak legal

Re: Moko Bluetooth

2008-02-13 Thread Phani Kumar Kancharala
Hi Lorn Potter, I am trying to enable Bluetooth networking using Qtopia image. I could able to scan and connect to another system. When I try to add IP address using ip a add 10.0.0.2/24 dev bnep0 neo throws the following error ip: Cannot find device bnep0. Any work around for this

bluetooth networking

2008-02-13 Thread Phani Kumar Kancharala
Hi, I am trying to enable the bluetooth networking on my Neo phone. The phone is running 2.6.22.5 kernel with rootfs provided by Qtopia. I could able enable the bluetooth and scan for devices using hcitool scan I could connect to a bluetooth server using pand -c bluetoothADDR But, the command ip

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread Schmidt András
Hi! So it is a list of GSM phones which are capable of running linux? Why is it important from OpenMoko's point of view? Are they capable of hosting the OpenMoko software? Or are they the concurrent hardware of Neo? I just don't understand what you mean. Best regards Michael Schmidt wrote:

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread Stephan Maka
Schmidt András wrote: So it is a list of GSM phones which are capable of running linux? No. This list just indicates that there are HOWTOs available for connecting the phones to your Linux box. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread ian douglas
My understanding is that Michael got a list of all current handsets (GSM or otherwise) running some form of a Linux-based operating system on the device. It would be nice to have the list on the wiki and include whether it's GSM only or GSM+other, etc., but I haven't got the time to volunteer

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread joerg
Am Mi 13. Februar 2008 schrieb Stephan Maka: Schmidt András wrote: So it is a list of GSM phones which are capable of running linux? No. This list just indicates that there are HOWTOs available for connecting the phones to your Linux box. However OT, this:

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread Ivo Anjo
I think the original poster thought that it was a list of linux phones (as it includes the Neo and the Greenphone), but it obviously isn't, because obviously those Sony Ericsson phones don't use linux, some of them are pretty old, like the (sony) ericsson T39. Also, in front of those phones

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread joerg
Am Mi 13. Februar 2008 schrieb Stephan Maka: Schmidt András wrote: So it is a list of GSM phones which are capable of running linux? No. This list just indicates that there are HOWTOs available for connecting the phones to your Linux box. I understood this site dealing with Linux on my

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread Sikko
It seems the info is gathered from: http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux.html and is indeed just a list of HOWTOs for different mobile phones, that are, or are not using linux themselves. Hoping to have helped, Greeting sikko Stephan Maka schreef: Schmidt András wrote: So it is a list of GSM

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Nick Guenther wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 4:04 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've researched this a little, and this is what I've learned: 1. We are still looking at a number of different batteries, so there is no final capacity or feature set determined yet. 2. The capacity

Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 08.02.2008 um 08:30 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Yes, Koolu is a distributor. Michael I thought that there are no distributors defined yet except the one in Germany mentioned recently? The updating of the web page seems to be lagging a little. I'm not

Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi JW, This is wonderful. Thanks for coming up with the idea and for implementing it. I look forward to seeing more applications on this page. Regards, Michael JW wrote: Hi OpenMoko Community, I was thinking about the target market for Neo FreeRunner - the non-geek smartphone user.

Re: Openmoko not on CeBIT 2008

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Tim, Two answers: 1. Limited resources, and especially now that we are trying to get GTA02 out of the door, we have to consider the cost of sending someone to such an event 2. CeBIT is a more consumer oriented event, and we don't have a consumer item to show Michael Tim Niemeyer

Re: Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Steven Le Roux wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:41:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention that the Southern California Linux Expo interviewed me as a warm-up to the show this weekend:

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Marcus, This looks very useful. I will try to test this out. Thanks very much for your contribution, Michael Marcus Bauer wrote: Hello, I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for Openmoko/Neo. It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching

Re: Openmoko not on CeBIT 2008

2008-02-13 Thread Enno Gottox Boland
offtopic And Cebit is for idiots. I tried to get information about Intel VT 3 year ago. The only information about Intel was, that they had a new logo and some faster nicer better CPUs, nothing usefull... And the visitors seemed to care about yet another fancy new Logo... This was the last time I

community contributed gsmd testing framework

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Kero, This is excellent. Thanks! Can you add this to the appropriate wiki page? Regards, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I wrote a little gsmd testing framework, with the hope it can be used to stabilize (lib)gsmd. You can find an initial release on:

Community Update Wed Feb 13 2008

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi everyone, This is actually a recap of last week in the engineering department. I was away at SCALE and am busy catching up. We received our first batch of 10 fully assembled GTA02 A5 boards. There are still some issues with the manufacturing test software that needs to be fixed before

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-13 Thread Uncle Kridley
Michael Shiloh wrote: We are well aware of software changes we need to make in order to improve battery and have simply not had the time to do this. You can expect much better battery life when we implement these changes. [...] that my very simple testing suggests should last for well over 12

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-13 Thread Lionel Dricot
Hi Marcus, I saw your name on the FOSDEM schedule and will attend your conference :-) On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcus, This looks very useful. I will try to test this out. Thanks very much for your contribution, Michael Marcus Bauer

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-13 Thread Kyle Bassett
I have been following the Suspended Mode thread in the kernel ML and they have made amazing progress within the last week. As GTA02A5 currently stands, a cold suspend mode (just GSM in standby awaiting incoming call/sms), could result in 20 days of standby! For those technical people on this

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Uncle Kridley wrote: Michael Shiloh wrote: We are well aware of software changes we need to make in order to improve battery and have simply not had the time to do this. You can expect much better battery life when we implement these changes. [...] that my very simple testing suggests

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thanks Kyle for a great summary of the work being discussed on the kernel ML. I am simply not able to keep up with all the lists and very much appreciate your helping out here. Michael Kyle Bassett wrote: I have been following the Suspended Mode thread in the kernel ML and they have made