Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Kosa
Here's a youtube link to wich I belive is the same vid (could not see the one on natgeo web 'couse a lack of plugin for firefox on my mac) http://youtube.com/watch?v=5oExwxkuT_c Amaizing!!! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - On 15/04/2008, at 08:15 p.m., steve wrote: Need to figure out

RE: Happy dance (Was FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-15 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Well I hope you do only the celebration part of the video and those black things hited by the sticks are not neos steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: The Happy dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnlOJjC368 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:00 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Maybe we should just make an adventure film of Michael and Steve getting | FreeRunners. \-- ... and name the film, "The Usual Suspects". SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___

CHINA LOCAL GROUP

2008-04-15 Thread Xiangfu Liu
I would like to set up a local group, Do some work for NEO1973. if the Mail list there are Chinese please e-mail to me or to the WIKI NEO on the registration CHINA GROUP OpenMoko Local Groups: China -- my Blog : http://blog.chinaunix.n

Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Arvidson
Yes, but will it blend? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread steve
Need to figure out how Cyanea Octopus does it http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070209-octopus-video.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:23 PM To: List for Openmoko commun

Los Angeles (or Southern California 10-pack)

2008-04-15 Thread ian douglas
Added my name to the bulk-purchase price for the FreeRunner for the Los Angeles area. I'm technically in Santa Monica now, but if anyone else in the city is interested, add your names to the list on the wiki and save a few bucks. Personally, I'll probably opt for the fastest shipping method po

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?

2008-04-15 Thread Justyn Butler
On 15/04/2008, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > QWERTY keyboards and appropriate cases are, I believe, produced > already, and can be subcontracted. There is no surprise in a QWERTY > keyboard. > > There was also FIC's plan to produce *a number* of devices, based on > the hardware t

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Michael Shiloh
My daughter is sitting right next to me and says yes, she absolutely wants one in pink. She also wants one multicolored. See, the white-and-markers idea isn't such a bad one, eh? Michael Bastian Muck wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has somebody eaten a clown this morning

Re: Freerunner Antennas and Partially Metal Cases

2008-04-15 Thread Steven Le Roux
yeah and there is an UFL connector for wifi output ;) I will be able to plug my SD27 ;) doing VoIP over kilometers ;) On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/15, Matt Manjos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Take a look at page 24 of this document: > > > > > >

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and cut them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to many whishes for special colors. But this feature could be sold by a thirdparty-shop. And I guess, that it would be

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread steve
Ole. Let's do a thought experiment I'll sell you all the red phones you care to buy at a deep discount. In fact, I will promise never to sell a RedRunner and let you have all of the red phone market. How many would you buy? Today, they like red, yesterday it was pink, Tuesday will be her

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread ramsesoriginal
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:49 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > what you guys actually want to see me dance? Oh hm... YES! xD and also some of my female (and even male) friends asked about coloring: the preferred ones: -red -pink (yes, really) -blue -kiwi-green -- My corner of the

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread steve
what you guys actually want to see me dance? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update wtf? This is an hocky movie

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-15 Thread Ole Tange
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:13 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A. We killed the orange colored phone. May it rest in peace. As mentioned in other thread the color seems to matter a lot to females. When it is ready to be used by the general population, please consider introducing a female-

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Ole Tange
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Kosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Has somebody eaten a clown this morning at breakfast? ;-) > > > > Of course noone really wants a pink freerunner, does someone? > > I do! :D (just kidding) I recently was at a dinner with former colleagues. The subject turned t

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:27 PM, ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know, this holds true for many countries. I used to work Ok. Does anyone have an example of the text needed? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community m

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
HAHA Good with a laugh at the evening " No, they are currently unemployed" xD KING answer steve skrev: It was funny, the lady at Customs called and said, "you sound like an american" I could not resist instantly imitating my swedish grandmother. Probably not to bright on my part, but I was a

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Vincent
On 4/15/08, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Happy dance > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnlOJjC368 > > > Stop that, I've been Rick Rolled enough these days... :P -- Vincent ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org htt

RE: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread steve
Just send me a personal reminder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] And be persistent, nag me. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flemming Richter Mikkelsen Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:13 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: oredring the Freeru

RE: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread steve
Maybe we should just make an adventure film of Michael and Steve getting FreeRunners. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:30 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: DHL has a package for m

Re: A bit of fun - freerunner and the wisdom of crowds

2008-04-15 Thread JW
[reviving the long forgotten Feb 8 post http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-February/013184.html] So, with Freerunner now quite close to release what are the results? You can see the details at http://openmoko.hobby-site.com/ 1) How many people voted/participated : 700 with 660

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread ramsesoriginal
As far as I know, this holds true for many countries. I used to work in a logistic/marketing/other stuff buisness, and in many places labeling transportations as "research item" was a good idea (but it has to be, in some way, related to research, because it gets controlled) On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at

RE: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread steve
Well to release the package to me they needed my social security number. BUT, they would not take it verbally over the phone. They needed written proof. Why? because as the customs lady explained, homeland security had audited DHL and found out that people had lied to them about their SSN. So, N

RE: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread steve
Cool idea. I should be headed up to Michael house on Thursday with the phones. DHL promised them tommorrow. Provided I am a true american. I think one of my spawn here have a you tube camera. I'll pry it from their sweaty paw if I can. Otherwise michael may have something. -Original Mess

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread steve
In a harlequin pattern no doubt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ortwin Regel Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:10 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update I do! Well, actually I probably

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:53 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i'll look into it, but this country by country selective processing is > defeating the purpose. If this is valid for other countries, perhaps such a letter / note could be added to every 10 pack you send out? (If the s

RE: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread steve
It was funny, the lady at Customs called and said, "you sound like an american" I could not resist instantly imitating my swedish grandmother. Probably not to bright on my part, but I was annoyed. Anyway, I prezented my papers. FreeRunner is out of customs jail. Customs Person: " These are samp

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
wtf? This is an hocky movie steve skrev: The Happy dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnlOJjC368 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Samblas Martinez Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:17 AM To: List for Openmoko community disc

RE: Trading in €uros ?

2008-04-15 Thread steve
It's much more complex than that. We will quote in USD. We buy components in other currencies, so as currency changes, the value of what we hold changes as a function of currency fluctuations. At this stage of the game, the currency we quote in is a minor issue. That said , the dollar sucks. So

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread steve
The Happy dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnlOJjC368 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Samblas Martinez Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:17 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PV

Re: Freerunner Antennas and Partially Metal Cases

2008-04-15 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/4/15, Matt Manjos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Take a look at page 24 of this document: > > > http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/certificate/NCC/TE7O1104_R01_CNS13438_FIC_GTA02.pdf Thanks, that was very interesting to see photos of a disassembled Freerunner, details that are not on the Wik

Re: SAR?

2008-04-15 Thread Ugo Raffaele Piemontese
Please, don't kill me ;) I can't speak Chinese, so I misunderstood! If I'm not wrong (again), it should be 0.985 W/Kg! - Original Message - From: "Tomas Gustavsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: Re: SAR?

Re: SAR?

2008-04-15 Thread Tomas Gustavsson
Kidding with me? 2.0 W/Kg are the limits in Europe. If I didn't read wrong it was below 1 W/Kg for Freerunner. tis 2008-04-15 klockan 19:57 +0200 skrev Ugo Raffaele Piemontese: > If I read well... It's 2.0 W/Kg [1]. Isn't it? > > [1] > http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/certificate/NCC/TT

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/15/08, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i'll look into it, but this country by country selective processing is > defeating the purpose. > > Thank you! I really hope for the best:) -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachment

Fw: SAR?

2008-04-15 Thread Ugo Raffaele Piemontese
Ops sorry, I was wrong! The hurry joked me a bad trick ;) It should be 0.985 W/Kg! - Original Message - From: "Ugo Raffaele Piemontese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: SAR? If I read well... It's 2.

RE: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread steve
It's gallows humor. If you have ever watched your hard work Undergo destructive test, you don't know whether to laugh or cry. So, you try to do a little of both. I've asked that we do some kind of video when we go to Mass Pro. I never thought of doing a Video of destructive test, but I think it'

Re: End User Input....and Question

2008-04-15 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I may not be the typical end user, I want to say that i believe this phone will have appeal to end users like me, who are looking for a phone that can be updated and customized. The Freerunner is in a great position to appeal to those who think GREEN. I hav

RE: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread steve
i'll look into it, but this country by country selective processing is defeating the purpose. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flemming Richter Mikkelsen Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: oredrin

Re: SAR?

2008-04-15 Thread Ugo Raffaele Piemontese
If I read well... It's 2.0 W/Kg [1]. Isn't it? [1] http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/certificate/NCC/TTE_NCC_Certificate%20CCAF08DG003080_TD7O1104_%a4j%b2%b3_FIC_GTA02_2008.01.07.pdf - Original Message - From: "Maxious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community disc

RE: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread steve
I'll look into it _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flemming Richter Mikkelsen Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:18 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: oredring the Freerunner as an research item I was wondering if it would be possible to

Re: GUI package management

2008-04-15 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 15 2008 1:23:32 pm Alexander Frøyseth wrote: > Same thing with me > > Michele Renda skrev: > >> There is an Application Manager program listed but every time I've > >> tried it > >> use it I just get Segfaults > > > > Me too, I tryed to use it from qemu :( > > > > _

RE: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread steve
Ha, I've talked to Ninja about doing a Vid of the first production build. The destructive test would also be a kewl thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Olney Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:08 AM To: List for Openmo

Re: Freerunner Antennas and Partially Metal Cases

2008-04-15 Thread Matt Manjos
Take a look at page 24 of this document: http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/certificate/NCC/TE7O1104_R01_CNS13438_FIC_GTA02.pdf (very interesting document anyway, but page 24 is exactly what you're looking for) On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As

Re: SAR?

2008-04-15 Thread Maxious
It's on the wiki under the NCC test report (TA7O1104_R01_CNS14959_FIC_GTA02_2008.01.02.pdf = details of SAR-value testing); http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#NCC On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Tomas Gustavsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone knows about the SAR

Re: GUI package management

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Same thing with me Michele Renda skrev: There is an Application Manager program listed but every time I've tried it use it I just get Segfaults Me too, I tryed to use it from qemu :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GUI package management

2008-04-15 Thread Michele Renda
There is an Application Manager program listed but every time I've tried it use it I just get Segfaults Me too, I tryed to use it from qemu :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Romania - Bucharest - 10 Pack

2008-04-15 Thread Michele Renda
Hello I would like to organize a delivery of Freerunner in Bucuesti. Who is interested please contact me :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

SAR?

2008-04-15 Thread Tomas Gustavsson
Does anyone knows about the SAR-value of a Freerunner? Putting a device that radiates too much near your brain isn't the best thing todo... /tomplast ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/li

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Bad joke :(, but funny :D Steven Le Roux skrev: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Kyle Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: awesome! why does it matter that you are or are not an american? -Kyle He need to cut his beard well and to not wear a turban :

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Kyle Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > awesome! > > why does it matter that you are or are not an american? > > -Kyle > He need to cut his beard well and to not wear a turban :) Steve don't let them any doubt ! ;) > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve

Re: Nano on Openmoko

2008-04-15 Thread thomasg
Some of the OM people are working on it. It's called assasin - you might check it out from OM projects svn. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Tim Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kind of off topic, but is there a slick GUI for opkg yet? Terminal typing > on the go with a stylus seems like it

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Perhaps that. But I want to listen to music with other thing then the headset that follows. I know I need a 8Ohms headset to use it on the NEO But is 8 ohm soo commen? Alexander Frøyseth Ortwin Regel skrev: Space reasons. I've been told that most phones use 2,5mm today for that reason. On 4/

Freerunner Antennas and Partially Metal Cases

2008-04-15 Thread Erland Lewin
As I understand it, the Freerunner will have four modules requiring antennas - GSM, GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth. I know the GSM antenna is placed in the bottom part of the phone, and the GPS antenna at the top. Where are the WiFi and Bluetooth antennas placed? Are there actually 4 antennas, or are som

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Ortwin Regel
Naja, wirklich korrekt wäre: Ihren Ausweis, bitte! ;) On 4/15/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, April 15, 2008 17:09, Kevin Dean wrote: > > Ihre Ausweis! > > > Korrekt: > > Ihren Ausweis Bitte! > > > ___ > Openmoko community mai

RE: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Crane, Matthew
Post them to engadget/gizmodo? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:24 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: DHL has a package for me! Support that. Please post s

End User Input....and Question

2008-04-15 Thread mstovel
Although I may not be the typical end user, I want to say that i believe this phone will have appeal to end users like me, who are looking for a phone that can be updated and customized. The Freerunner is in a great position to appeal to those who think GREEN. I have 5 cell phones that n

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Support that. Please post som images :D NeoSleg skrev: Could you please take some pictures and make some movies ? Just to help us waiting for it ;) On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:57:17 -0700, "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My samples arrived! I'm in customs hell. They want m

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

2008-04-15 Thread Ortwin Regel
Space reasons. I've been told that most phones use 2,5mm today for that reason. On 4/15/08, Alexander Frøyseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hei > I just wonder why it is 2.5mm and not 3.5mm mini jack. > After what I know 3.5mm is what is normaly used inn headsets > > Alexander Frøyseth > > ___

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread ba1020
On Tue, April 15, 2008 17:09, Kevin Dean wrote: > Ihre Ausweis! > Korrekt: Ihren Ausweis Bitte! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Kyle Bassett
awesome! why does it matter that you are or are not an american? -Kyle On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My samples arrived! > > I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to > send them a copy of > My social security card or my tax

Mini jack 2.5mm?

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Hei I just wonder why it is 2.5mm and not 3.5mm mini jack. After what I know 3.5mm is what is normaly used inn headsets Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/commu

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread NeoSleg
Could you please take some pictures and make some movies ? Just to help us waiting for it ;) On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:57:17 -0700, "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My samples arrived! > > I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to > send them a copy of

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Ortwin Regel
I do! Well, actually I probably won't get a Freerunner as I have a 1973 and limited amounts of money. However, I'd like my next phone to be in black with pink parts. B) Even more appreciated would be lime green and pink but I'm probably the only person in the world who wants that... Ortwin On 4/1

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Kevin Dean
Ihre Ausweis! On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My samples arrived! > > I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to > send them a copy of > My social security card or my taxes. > > > >

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Haha But ARE you an american?? hmm Perhaps you are an alien xD Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: My samples arrived! I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to send them a copy of My social security card or my taxes.

DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread steve
My samples arrived! I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to send them a copy of My social security card or my taxes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/l

Re: Norway - ordering a 10 pack?

2008-04-15 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales Norway are listet here Are one from oslo their alredy Flemming Richter Mikkelsen skrev: We are currently 7 persons living in Oslo, Kongsberg and Tønsberg. If anyone wants to join, please send me an e-mail off-list. PS! You should live close to any of t

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?

2008-04-15 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03? Date: Tue 15 Apr 08 05:09:32PM +0200 Quoting Ortwin Regel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Well, it would mean that the casing changes significantly. That means > lots of work and cost so it's not a trivial cha

Re: GUI package management (was: Nano on Openmoko)

2008-04-15 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Tue April 15 2008 9:51:25 am Tim Shannon wrote: > Kind of off topic, but is there a slick GUI for opkg yet? Terminal typing > on the go with a stylus seems like it might get pretty tedious. > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Brandon Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon April 14 2008 6

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?

2008-04-15 Thread Ortwin Regel
Well, it would mean that the casing changes significantly. That means lots of work and cost so it's not a trivial change. I don't think it's worth doing this (or even reasonably possible in time) before the next hardware revision. Ortwin On 4/15/08, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Trading in €uros ?

2008-04-15 Thread Steven Le Roux
No matter how is the $, I think FIC is thinking in $, not un €, so if the $ falls, it's good for us, and nothing change for FIC regardly the $ previsions... I guess On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The figure in USD is as innacurate as anything else. You're

Re: Trading in €uros ?

2008-04-15 Thread Kevin Dean
The figure in USD is as innacurate as anything else. You're not actually paying $399 USD, you're paying the number of New Taiwan Dollars that can be exchanged for $399 USD. Rebasing the price in ANY currency means absolutely nothing since (assuming you aren't paying exchange premiums) it's the sam

Re: Nano on Openmoko

2008-04-15 Thread Tim Shannon
Kind of off topic, but is there a slick GUI for opkg yet? Terminal typing on the go with a stylus seems like it might get pretty tedious. On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Brandon Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon April 14 2008 6:01:10 pm Kevin Dean wrote: > > Nano is available in the re

Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread Tim Shannon
Yeah, I'm up for any new content, especially on the freerunner. Everything I've seen online is of the 1973, and I'd like to see what kind of performance difference there is. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Matt Manjos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calling it a snuff video is a little disturbing,

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I wanna see a video of that happy dance xD --- steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB > version. > Actually Michael tests and I say wow and great and > then do the happy dance. > > He'll be back soon. We will revert on this. > > -Original M

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Matt Manjos
The Openmoko Freerunner: MacGyver Edition On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:21 AM, clare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The pouch is very nice and closes securely with its drawstring. > Inside it I put a piece of vinyl floor tile; and face the Neo1973 > screen to the tile, so that sharp or hard items in

Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread Matt Manjos
Calling it a snuff video is a little disturbing, but I too would like to see some "behind the scenes" videos of production. I guess that in the end, one electronics fabrication plant is just like every other plant, but some testing videos would be cool to see. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Jame

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/15/08, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was wondering if it would be possible to mark the shipment as "research > items". Since it is developer editions and not an end user product, I think > it makes sence. Can anyone from Openmoko confirm this? > > Here in Norway,

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread Steven Le Roux
Pretty good idea even for other Country ! On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if it would be possible to mark the shipment as "research > items". Since it is developer editions and not an end user product, I think > it makes se

Re: Trading in €uros ?

2008-04-15 Thread Didier Raboud
Didier Raboud wrote: > Hi, > > Just wondering. With the actual fall of the U$D, why not setting the Neo's > prices in €uros ? (Which is actually pretty strong.) (or ¥ens, ...) > > This would imply a rising price (with time) for American customers instead > of a falling one for European ones. >

Trading in €uros ?

2008-04-15 Thread Didier Raboud
Hi, Just wondering. With the actual fall of the U$D, why not setting the Neo's prices in €uros ? (Which is actually pretty strong.) (or ¥ens, ...) This would imply a rising price (with time) for American customers instead of a falling one for European ones. Actually, the actual situation is goo

oredring the Freerunner as an research item

2008-04-15 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I was wondering if it would be possible to mark the shipment as "research items". Since it is developer editions and not an end user product, I think it makes sence. Can anyone from Openmoko confirm this? Here in Norway, we can save some money if this is done. (This requires Openmoko to send a pap

10 pack in Colorado or Rocky Mountain Region??

2008-04-15 Thread Shawn
Hi Folks! Are there enough people in the Rocky Mountain region that would like to order a phone to where we could order a 10 pack? Email me off list! thx. . . shawn Be a better friend, newshound, an

Re: Data over normal GSM call

2008-04-15 Thread Stefano Cavallari
On Monday 14 April 2008 21:00:34 Harald Welte wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 07:57:02PM -0500, Hans L wrote: [...] > AFAIR, the DTMF key press is encoded and send over the Um (air) > interface to the BTS/BSC/MSC and then in the end converted into > actual audible sounds. > > Please see Page 22 of

Re: RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread sebbil
A "normal" USB cable or a cable for connecting devices to the moko? Original-Nachricht > Datum: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:43:52 -0700 > Von: "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: "\'List for Openmoko community discussion\'" > > Betreff: RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update > USB cable

Re: PVT Update.

2008-04-15 Thread James Olney
maybe mokoninja could get behind the scenes and snap some pics or vids.. On 15/04/2008, nickd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the > production that the few sick people (myself included) in the community could > see possibly some videos of

Melbourne, Australia - ordering a 10 pack?

2008-04-15 Thread Dennis Wollersheim
We are currently 6 people in Melbourne Australia who want to order a 10 pack. If you live near Melbourne, Australia, and you want to join our group, please send me an e-mail off-list. Cheers Dennis -- --- Dennis Wollersheim Lecturer, Health Information

Re: modulated data over GSM voice (was Re: Data over normal GSM call)

2008-04-15 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | While stating it being unlikely, I have no dout that it can be done, | given enough effort. But it requires a lot of work by somebody with Alright, that's all I was saying too. | lots of knowledge and e

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi. | | Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) --> usb (pc side), or the Y usb cable | for usb host? Last I heard it is miniUSB <-> USB A plug only. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9

Re: Target Market (was: Re: Charger?)

2008-04-15 Thread Jay Vaughan
Yes, it is a Linux computer that fits into our pockets. But who cares? Only our small community of Linux geeks. But there is no *mass market* for that. The market is: software developers who are using linux as their base. Consider the music-device market. Its huge. Linux devices like the

Re: Neat GPS

2008-04-15 Thread Jay Vaughan
Or something like the locator in the Alien movie... I'd really love to integrate the neo1973's GPS into the urban takeover game: http://urbantakeover.at/ With a pretty onboard interface and realtime updates, of course .. ; -- Jay Vaughan __

Re: LCD protector

2008-04-15 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 20:04:33 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va escriure: > So you're simply putting the protector under the phone case? Yes > Doesn't it move around? I only notice some movement when using the fingers if I'm sweating. >Ah... And I forgot: what about the dust (under the shee

Re: Target Market (was: Re: Charger?)

2008-04-15 Thread Dirk Deimeke
Hi, > But who cares? Only our small community of Linux geeks. But there > is no *mass market* for that. 100% agreed (with the whole text you sent). Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailm