Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Francesco Cat
for me it was accurate within the 4 km range, but i live in Milan and this could easily make a big difference :) 2008/7/8 W.Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 20:47 +0200, Francesco Cat wrote: >> Another thing that might help: If the FR is connected to any network >> one should

Re: How many batteries is included?

2008-07-07 Thread Dustin Knie
>From what I could tell, there is 1 battery per phone regardless of single or 10-pack. The Spares pack gives you 2 additional batteries and a couple other things for another $50. Dustin On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Alexander Frøyseth < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like the subject says > How

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-07 Thread W.Kenworthy
I thought someone has already set up a forum - but few can be bothered using it so perhaps thats your answer. I cant see the point of so many mailing lists - it just complicates the procmail recipe so they all sort into the same mailbox :) BillK On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 22:09 -0700, Ben Cadieux w

Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard

2008-07-07 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:39 -0600, michael irons wrote: > > > > > > The Stowaway from iGo / ThinkOutside works nicely for me. > > > > I was looking at that, but they seem to not be selling them anymore... > Any ideas where to find one in US http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3D

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-07 Thread Ben Cadieux
Is conglomerating mailing lists really such a good idea? There's already an overwhelming amount of e-mail. While I realize there's already been some discussion about using a forum, it degraded into trolling -- I do think a forum would be a good idea. Not that it would replace the mailing lists,

Re: Laptop Replacement

2008-07-07 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Jay Vaughan skrev: >> http://www.mamereplay.net/neo1973/ >> >> > > awesome! i'm going to do that too .. maybe make up a very simple PCB > for it .. could this be the beginning of some interesting work in the > case-design/snap-in accessory boards aftermarket? > ; > -- > Jay Vaughan > > >

How many batteries is included?

2008-07-07 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Like the subject says How many batteries is included in the singlepack, and the grouppach? Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-07 Thread Matt Joyce
> > Dear Community > > We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think > of the following: > > 1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called > 'devel'. > > 2) Remove 'device-owners'. > > 3) Remove 'hardware'. > > Any concerns / comments? >

Re: Different hardware in the future?

2008-07-07 Thread Jay Vaughan
> > But now my question: As I understand, the software right now is not > fully evolved. I would be interested in experimenting and testing, > but I > also would like to have a fully functional phone in the long run. > Will I > have one with the Freerunner once the software development reached

Re: Reviews?

2008-07-07 Thread Kevin Dean
Yeah, I learned a hard lesson. :( Speaking very honestly, I don't use my Freerunner in daily use but I use my 1973 with Qtopia since it's pretty stable and functional. There are several ways to get involved with Openmoko development without a Freerunner, like in Qemu or Xepher or whatnot. I'm sure

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread W.Kenworthy
Another data point. I dont have my FR yet, but looking at this thread got me to fire up an external bluetooth BT74R GPS and connect it to my treo650 using cetus gps to display a satellite map. the GPS is on a SE facing windowsill with one floor above me so everything behind the building will be c

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 20:47 +0200, Francesco Cat wrote: > Another thing that might help: If the FR is connected to any network > one should also be able to use IP Locator services like > http://whatismyipaddress.com/ to get another extimation of the > location of FR. They are usually quite accurate

Re: Battery loading ...

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Maybe the gear is on reverse :p ( don't really know what problem is as i don't have my freerunner yet ) On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah,... and it's intersting that, after the battery has been fully > loaded,... the POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_FU

Re: Laptop Replacement

2008-07-07 Thread Jay Vaughan
> http://www.mamereplay.net/neo1973/ > awesome! i'm going to do that too .. maybe make up a very simple PCB for it .. could this be the beginning of some interesting work in the case-design/snap-in accessory boards aftermarket? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___

Re: Reviews?

2008-07-07 Thread nickd
Looks like his server hosting the images suffered a hard-drive failure: http://www.monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/This-Site-Broken-Articles-And-Learning-Python.html Milos Mandaric wrote: > Have look at this one > http://www.monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko

Re: Reviews?

2008-07-07 Thread Milos Mandaric
Have look at this one http://www.monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner-1.html from Kevin Dean. I am not sure why the photos are missing. On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know if there are any good reviews floa

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 7. Juli 2008 schrieb thomasg: > Btw. - I took a picture of my GPS_antenna, and I just can't imagine, that > this will be able to get a GPS signal without siginficant loss to the > reciever (that has only a sensitivity of -155 dBm in the best case). > http://c.imagehost.org/0230/gps_antenna.j

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-07 Thread Piotr Duda
well, I have to say Im terrified... I was quite busy lately and have a week vacation so in my _community_ message box there is almost ~1400 unread mails... ufff... Sean Moss-Pultz pisze: [...] >1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called > 'devel'. no problems

Re: Freerunner @ handheld-linux Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Jay Vaughan
> A new batch has already been ordered and will need some days to > arrive and prepare. > Happy Freerunning, > Nikolaus Schaller great - can you tell me if i'm in this new batch or did it go out last week? the reason i'm nervous about it (besides the obvious) is that its difficult to track

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread jeff
FWIW Buenos Aires, Argentina was $140 (2 fones + dev board). Federico Lorenzi wrote: > Ha, only 100 dollars for you. Shipping to South Africa is $160 > > On 7/7/08, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> hey everyone i live in Qatar, and just to see how much the shipping would be >> for the 900

Reviews?

2008-07-07 Thread sumstultussedesquoque
Hi all, Does anyone know if there are any good reviews floating around for the FreeRunner yet? (And if not, does someone who already has theirs want to write one?) I'm a college student so money's very tight and I'm trying to justify purchasing one, but I want to know exactly what I'm getting fi

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread Jay Vaughan
> Come on. Could you please all stop abusing this mailing list to track > your orders? > What do _we_ have to do with your order? > aren't you interested in how enthusiastic your peers are to catch up with those of you that have the nice hardware and are happily hacking on it? ; -- Jay Vaugh

Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard

2008-07-07 Thread michael irons
> > > The Stowaway from iGo / ThinkOutside works nicely for me. > I was looking at that, but they seem to not be selling them anymore... Any ideas where to find one in US Michael Irons ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org ht

Battery_Settings_Contacts

2008-07-07 Thread atweb
Hello, I´ve a few Questions with my Freerunner: a) Does the battery always charge when the power-supplier is connected to the USB-Port? b) Who are the Settings of the "openmoko-*"-Packanges saved? I want to change the default-volume of a phone-call, the background-light and activate the openmok

Re: Battery loading ...

2008-07-07 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Ah,... and it's intersting that, after the battery has been fully loaded,... the POWER_SUPPLY_TIME_TO_FULL_NOW becomes 3932100 ?! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org htt

Battery loading ...

2008-07-07 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi. I've looked a bit into the following: 1) The battery seems to be charging: But why is the value POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW negative? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat# cat uevent POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=bat POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Char

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Let's see more crazy/interesting ideas! Steven ** wrote: > That's a crazy/interesting idea. I would not do it real-time though. > Data rates are rather high for my tastes. I could do a daily dump. > But either way, it'd be really boring with my route. The same 2 miles > every day... :-/ > >

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
1. Thank you. Crazy/interesting is exactly where innovation comes from, I think 2. Same route every day is good - then you smooth out any aberrations and get a realistic average. A low-pass filter. Steven ** wrote: > That's a crazy/interesting idea. I would not do it real-time though. > Data ra

Re: Shipping dates

2008-07-07 Thread Stephen Shelton
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:13:15PM -0700, ian douglas wrote: > USA shipping is starting today. > > A message earlier today stated that orders around #1500 should ship > Tuesday. I'm order 1843, so I expect my shipment to get out either late > Tuesday or some time on Wednesday. > > -id I'm order

Re: Laptop Replacement

2008-07-07 Thread Charles Pax
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After seeing the pictures of the Neo connected to a battery powered > hub, I looked around the internet to see if there were any that could > hold more batteries, but couldn't find any. Then I thought that it > would be nice to

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread thomasg
I also did some testing with all the pieces of hardware the freerunner has. The GPS is very disappointing. I could get a fix in about 2 minutes with my Neo1973 with a cold start. This works inside my car (maybe a bit slower), at my room's window (bit slower), and everywhere outside. I still didn't

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 07 July 2008, Chris wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for your work, but it didn't work for me. I used your spreadsheet > to calculate the values. Is there something I can do wrong? It sets the > time, but I still don't get a fix. > > $posx = 3784209.3; > $posy = 901525.8; > $posz = 5037577.6; > Ar

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-07 Thread Steven **
That's a crazy/interesting idea. I would not do it real-time though. Data rates are rather high for my tastes. I could do a daily dump. But either way, it'd be really boring with my route. The same 2 miles every day... :-/ -Steven On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Signature check failed

2008-07-07 Thread ian douglas
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > The miss of those was just because I (as always) forgot to setup > resolv.conf (as Ian guessed correctly ;) ) It's simple to automate this: In my /etc/networking/interfaces, for the USB connection, where the "up" command does an echo to resolv.conf, somethin

Re: gta2 crashes completely

2008-07-07 Thread Andreas Kemnade
Hi, On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:31:02 +0200 Christoph Anton Mitterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > Sometimes I have the problem that the GTA2 crashes completely,.. > > I did nothing (I assume the device was in standby),... and when I try to > reactivate it,.. nothing happens... > Even when I

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread Stephen Shelton
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:32:45PM +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: > Come on. Could you please all stop abusing this mailing list to track > your orders? > What do _we_ have to do with your order? Frankly, I think this thread is very relevant to a large portion of the community. I've been following

Re: Signature check failed

2008-07-07 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 22:45 +0200, arne anka wrote: > nope. signature files seem to be non-existent, opkg probably checks for > them by default. Uhm should we perhaps bring this to the attention of the developers? Having signed packages is IMHO very important for security. > the miss of Package

Re: Signature check failed

2008-07-07 Thread ian douglas
arne anka wrote: > the miss of Packages.gz is more worrisome, because opkg computes the list > of available packes from it. Would be handy if opkg could detect if a valid DNS connection exists and fail gracefully with a warning like "Cannot resolve buildhost.openmoko.org" instead of taking the

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Got mine last friday :-) from Pulster ... Everything worked well :) Regards, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/commu

Re: Signature check failed

2008-07-07 Thread arne anka
> It seems that this sig files are missing,... > Am I doing something wrong here? nope. signature files seem to be non-existent, opkg probably checks for them by default. the miss of Packages.gz is more worrisome, because opkg computes the list of available packes from it. did you try again af

Re: Signature check failed

2008-07-07 Thread ian douglas
The fact that the .gz files didn't download means your /etc/resolv.conf doesn't point to a valid DNS server. The signature files are definitely missing though, and should be corrected. -id Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Hi. > > When I update (opkg update) I get the following: > > [EMAIL PR

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread arne anka
> Come on. Could you please all stop abusing this mailing list to track > your orders? > What do _we_ have to do with your order? oh, come on! weren't you tickled pink by the happy thought of getting your freerunner? after all, this _is_ a community list and the question how distribution works

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread Andrew Bennett
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Come on. Could you please all stop abusing this mailing list to track > your orders? > What do _we_ have to do with your order? > Actually, I appreciated seeing that information. I submitted an order and, other than

Signature check failed

2008-07-07 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi. When I update (opkg update) I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
Come on. Could you please all stop abusing this mailing list to track your orders? What do _we_ have to do with your order? Jon Pomeroy wrote: > Vinc and Ian, > > When did you get email for OM? I ordered Thursday and only received a > confirmation of my order. Nothing about when shipping would s

Re: Different hardware in the future?

2008-07-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
Ole Kliemann wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'd first like to say how excited I am about the Freerunner. I am an > enthusiastic linux user who likes to customize every aspect to create a > workflow that just fits. So a customizable phone is what I have been > looking for. A big thanks to all involved i

gta2 crashes completely

2008-07-07 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi. Sometimes I have the problem that the GTA2 crashes completely,.. I did nothing (I assume the device was in standby),... and when I try to reactivate it,.. nothing happens... Even when I press the power button very long nothing happens... I have to remove the battery (which is very annoying, a

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Chris
Hi, thanks for your work, but it didn't work for me. I used your spreadsheet to calculate the values. Is there something I can do wrong? It sets the time, but I still don't get a fix. $posx = 3784209.3; $posy = 901525.8; $posz = 5037577.6; Are my values for Berlin/Germany (52.516667, 13.416667,

Re: Different hardware in the future?

2008-07-07 Thread c_r
On Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 10:00:50PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'd first like to say how excited I am about the Freerunner. I am an > enthusiastic linux user who likes to customize every aspect to create a > workflow that just fits. So a customizable phone is what I have been > lo

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread ian douglas
I got my confirmation within minutes of placing the order and required no prompting. After a quick Email to OM, they said I'd get a follow-up message from UPS when the package actually ships. -id Jon Pomeroy wrote: > Vinc and Ian, > > When did you get email for OM? I ordered Thursday and only

Re: Shipping dates

2008-07-07 Thread ian douglas
USA shipping is starting today. A message earlier today stated that orders around #1500 should ship Tuesday. I'm order 1843, so I expect my shipment to get out either late Tuesday or some time on Wednesday. -id Matthew Lane wrote: > Does anyone know when the open moko's online store begins ship

Different hardware in the future?

2008-07-07 Thread Ole Kliemann
Hi everyone! I'd first like to say how excited I am about the Freerunner. I am an enthusiastic linux user who likes to customize every aspect to create a workflow that just fits. So a customizable phone is what I have been looking for. A big thanks to all involved in the project, you are doing som

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Peter Thorin
Hi again Jan, That's brilliant news, I got the status change on 3-7, so that means it could show up tomorrow! Have fun, I just compiled the openmoko-sample2, exciting! ;) Best regards, Peter On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Jan de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I got a status

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread Jon Pomeroy
Vinc and Ian, When did you get email for OM? I ordered Thursday and only received a confirmation of my order. Nothing about when shipping would start or UPS notification. Did you have to do any prompting to get this info? Thanks, -Jon On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 09:46 -0700, ian douglas wrote: > They

Re: Nokia BL-5C (was: Re: Broken battery protection circuit) problems?)

2008-07-07 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Tobias Diedrich wrote: > With this battery I could now switch the Freerunner on again. > Apparently it is also being charged by the pcf50633 power > management controller: > After switching it on, the battery volate according to > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/battvolt

Shipping dates

2008-07-07 Thread Matthew Lane
Does anyone know when the open moko's online store begins shipping? I don't imagine the US post office has begun working until today (Monday)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/c

Re: Freerunner @ handheld-linux Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, we have shipped all devices we did have on Tursday and Friday. Depending on destination, delivery may need 1-4 working days. Jan's package was sent on Thursday to the Netherlands, while Peter's did go to Sweden on Friday. Unfortunately, tracking information has to be transferred manu

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Jan de Haan
Hi Peter, I got a status change on 2-7 and it arrived today. I've checked the tracking at least twice a day since then, but it never changed from "no tracking available" or such. But it did arrive today, I'm as happy as my son on his first birthday ;-), I am looking at the first boot right now.

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
sorry i meant i wrote an email to the indian distributor. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yea, i did the same thing, just wrote an email to see if theyll ship the > phone to qatar > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wro

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Yea, i did the same thing, just wrote an email to see if theyll ship the phone to qatar On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He said he was checking the web site and started an order for the 850 > just to check what the shipping cost would be. > > -id > > > Fly

GSoC Project Status Update 05: Speech Recognition in Openmoko

2008-07-07 Thread saurabh gupta
Hello everyone, Here is the project status update for Speech Recognition for Openmoko. This week passed in testing phase only. I tested the various subroutines of speech recognition code with various sound samples. The main part was the vector quantization one which is showing somewhat good re

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Peter Thorin
Jan, did you get any tracking information on the order status page before receiving it? I have ordered it from handheld-linux.com also, and the order status page tells me it has been shipped, but also "Tracking: data not yet available". I'm mostly wondering if I should get my hopes up of getting i

Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard

2008-07-07 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 05 July 2008, Diego Fdez. Durán wrote: > Hi all! > > At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good > portable bluetooth keyboard. > > What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? The Stowaway from iGo / ThinkOutside works nicely for me. ___

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Francesco Cat
Another thing that might help: If the FR is connected to any network one should also be able to use IP Locator services like http://whatismyipaddress.com/ to get another extimation of the location of FR. They are usually quite accurate. Would this help? 2008/7/7 Yogiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mo

Re: Laptop Replacement

2008-07-07 Thread Jakob
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After seeing the pictures of the Neo connected to a battery powered > hub, I looked around the internet to see if there were any that could > hold more batteries, but couldn't find any. Then I thought that it > would be nice to

Re: Hampshire group purchase

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thank you Joseph! This is very exciting news. Michael Joseph Reeves wrote: > Users in Hampshire, as well as other parts of the UK (I'm from > Portsmouth originally), may be interested to learn that you will very > soon be able to buy FreeRunners from us at Oxford Archaeology [1]. > > We special

Re: Accelerometer

2008-07-07 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Andreas Kemnade wrote: > I have tried to do get some values from the accelerometers. > I get from /dev/input/event3 these values: > > 000b070: 5de6 7148 4108 0200 0200 ee08 ].qHA... > 000b080: 5de6 7148 7b08 0200 0200 0100 1200 ].qH{... > 000b090: 5de6 7148 9608 0

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Excellent. I look forward to blogging about your setup. Please keep me/us informed. One fun thing to do: send this data to a web server, and plot it (using GPS) on a map showing your current consumption as a function of location? Steven ** wrote: > I'm hoping to use it not just for in-car navig

Re: VMWare Freerunner Flash

2008-07-07 Thread Lorn Potter
On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Johan Badenhorst wrote: > Hi guys, > > I was just wondering if anyone has flashed their Freerunners using VMWare > Player on Windows and if that would even be possible? Alternatively would > it be possible to use colinux or a similar tool? I've been developing for > Maemo

Re: Hampshire group purchase

2008-07-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
Users in Hampshire, as well as other parts of the UK (I'm from Portsmouth originally), may be interested to learn that you will very soon be able to buy FreeRunners from us at Oxford Archaeology [1]. We special in sales to academic/research groups, LUGs and in producing custom solutions based on t

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Yogiz
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:37:08 +0100 Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you for the testing. Keep doing the good work. Hopefully this idea can solve the long fix problem. > > First stab uses the example perl functions from ublox for generating > the aid-ini data, replacing their hardcoded x

Re: Not just a phone (was: Re: ancient hardware?)

2008-07-07 Thread Steven **
I'm hoping to use it not just for in-car navigation, but also data readout. I intend to rig it to display voltage and current in my electric car. I'd like to see someone do that with an iPhone :-P -Steven On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter, your

Not just a phone (was: Re: ancient hardware?)

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Peter, your email below is the one I've been trying to write for the past few months. Like you, what got me excited about this project was NOT the possibility of building better cellphone applications, but rather the possibility of creating radically new uses for a general purpose, location awa

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Jan de Haan
Yes! I've got mine! (From http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner) Jan. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Nokia BL-5C (was: Re: Broken battery protection circuit) problems?)

2008-07-07 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Tobias Diedrich wrote: > Looking at the battery circuit schematics I now think that the > battery protection circuit on this battery is probably broken. > > Discharging is still possible (now at 2.8V at the terminals), but it > does not accept any charge (I tried current-limited 4.2V/200mA at the

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-07 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2008-07-02 10:36:00 +0200, Christoph Pulster wrote: > many thanks for your big interest in our Freerunner 299 eur offer. > We started sales Friday 9:00 and 10:30 all the units from our first > batch are sold out. I really have to excuse myself to all the persons > who made a order but did not

Laptop Replacement

2008-07-07 Thread Michael
After seeing the pictures of the Neo connected to a battery powered hub, I looked around the internet to see if there were any that could hold more batteries, but couldn't find any. Then I thought that it would be nice to have a battery powering the hub and fast charging the Neo at the same ti

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 18:24 +0200, Mathias Ballner wrote: > hi all, > today i tried to get the gps running, but i didn't get a gps fix > i tested it with tangogps (nice tool!) and openmoko-agpsui > the only output i got was: > http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6d11990f0c82d92f0252742d7ef44950.png >

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread ian douglas
They gave me no estimation on my order (1843) but said I'd get an Email from UPS when our package is in transit. -id Vinc Duran wrote: > I got a nice mail from openmoko: > > Our warehouse in Fremont, CA will be back to work on Monday (7/7) and > start shipping process. Your order number should

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread ian douglas
He said he was checking the web site and started an order for the 850 just to check what the shipping cost would be. -id Flyin_bbb8 wrote: > Federico, did you already order from the openmoko shop? or you're > waiting for the 900 MHz version? > > > --

Re: VMWare Freerunner Flash

2008-07-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
Johan Badenhorst wrote: > Hi guys, > > I was just wondering if anyone has flashed their Freerunners using > VMWare Player on Windows and if that would even be possible? Using USB devices attached to the host cmputer usually works. As far as i know. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Rec

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Mathias Ballner
hi all, today i tried to get the gps running, but i didn't get a gps fix i tested it with tangogps (nice tool!) and openmoko-agpsui the only output i got was: $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 $GPGLL,,V,N*64 $GP

VMWare Freerunner Flash

2008-07-07 Thread Johan Badenhorst
Hi guys, I was just wondering if anyone has flashed their Freerunners using VMWare Player on Windows and if that would even be possible? Alternatively would it be possible to use colinux or a similar tool? I've been developing for Maemo using VMWare successfully because I am stuck without a linu

Re: anyone know when the phones are actually shipping within the US?

2008-07-07 Thread Vinc Duran
I got a nice mail from openmoko: Our warehouse in Fremont, CA will be back to work on Monday (7/7) and start shipping process. Your order number should be ready to ship by Tuesday. Thanks. My order number is 1562. If I read a lot into the email I might conclude order counts. I asked about tracki

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Federico, did you already order from the openmoko shop? or you're waiting for the 900 MHz version? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
:p i wouldn't call it only, but $160 is definitely crazy, watsup with UPS? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Federico Lorenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ha, only 100 dollars for you. Shipping to South Africa is $160 > > On 7/7/08, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey everyone i live in Q

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 07 July 2008, Kai Römer wrote: > Hi Al, > If you need testers, please contact me. I have several gta02v5 > available and can do tests in Germany Munich. First stab uses the example perl functions from ublox for generating the aid-ini data, replacing their hardcoded x,y,z with values for

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Ha, only 100 dollars for you. Shipping to South Africa is $160 On 7/7/08, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey everyone i live in Qatar, and just to see how much the shipping would be > for the 900 MHz i just tried to check out the 850 version and shipping to > Doha - Qatar ( where i stay )

Re: ancient hardware? - Software matters

2008-07-07 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Tilman Yeah, I feel exactly the same way as Wolfgang. Actually I've forward this email to many of our internal people just to make absolute sure they read it. Your comments seriously made my day. -Sean Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > thank you so much! > You cannot believe how hard people at

Re: ancient hardware? - Software matters

2008-07-07 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
thank you so much! You cannot believe how hard people at Openmoko work and getting a mail like yours rewards many of us for 12+ hours working days. It's a long way, lots of hardware and software bugs, we know it. I like your 'bad teeth' analogy :-) Wolfgang On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Tilman B

shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
hey everyone i live in Qatar, and just to see how much the shipping would be for the 900 MHz i just tried to check out the 850 version and shipping to Doha - Qatar ( where i stay ) with UPS worldwide expedited is 97.59 USD, and UPS saver 101.23 USD, that's just unacceptable and very expensive.

Re: ancient hardware?

2008-07-07 Thread Stroller
On 7 Jul 2008, at 04:02, Ajit Natarajan wrote: > ... > The Calypso GSM chip dates back to 2000. This is from the leaked > hardware definition manual revision history [3]. > ... > I haven't looked at the other chips. > > From the above, the GSM chip looks ancient. ... > > So, I don't understand t

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

2008-07-07 Thread arne anka
> Please keep device-owners and community. shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be congruent, now the freerunner is in the world? and who of the newlyweds joined device-owners? i for one, didn't -- because i don't want to split my time and attention between multiple gro

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 07.07.2008 um 15:05 schrieb Kevin Zuber: > Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:46 +0200 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus > Schaller: >> Am 04.07.2008 um 17:19 schrieb Kevin Zuber: >> >>> Any news here? >>> >>> I got the same error with the commands: >>> AT >>> STR=`AT' >>> RSTR=`OK' >>> AT+CPIN? >>> STR=`A

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

2008-07-07 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fwd, please answer to community@ > 2) Remove 'device-owners'. Please keep device-owners and community. The way I see it, the community list is a thriving discussion place for the whole community, which is good.

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-07 Thread Kevin Zuber
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:46 +0200 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Am 04.07.2008 um 17:19 schrieb Kevin Zuber: > > > Any news here? > > > > I got the same error with the commands: > > AT > > STR=`AT' > > RSTR=`OK' > > AT+CPIN? > > STR=`AT+CPIN?' > > RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' > > AT+CPIN=MYPIN

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.07.2008 um 17:19 schrieb Kevin Zuber: > Any news here? > > I got the same error with the commands: > AT > STR=`AT' > RSTR=`OK' > AT+CPIN? > STR=`AT+CPIN?' > RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' > AT+CPIN=MYPIN > STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' > cme error: 3 > RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' > > What could be the reason? > > Tha

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-07 Thread Kevin Zuber
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:25 +0200 schrieb Joachim Steiger: > thanks for testing that, even if it didnt help. > > after reading shawn lin's testreport i believe we really have a problem > with the 1.8V sim cards then. > too bad the one i tested has no voltage printed on (some sims have, this >

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-07 Thread Joachim Steiger
thanks for testing that, even if it didnt help. after reading shawn lin's testreport i believe we really have a problem with the 1.8V sim cards then. too bad the one i tested has no voltage printed on (some sims have, this sadly doesnt). will try to find out next time i get near that sim. regards

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Federico Lorenzi
An interesting idea would be to acquire a fix, then bring the phone under cover, so it loses the fix, then bring it back in the open and see how long it will take to reacquire the fix. On 7/7/08, Kai Römer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Al, > If you need testers, please contact me. I have several

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