German getting started

2008-07-08 Thread simarillion
Hi, we (until now 4 people) started at docs.google.com (where multiple people can edit the same document) a german (until now quick & dirty) getting started document. This document is not meant to be a copy of   http://quickstart.openmoko.org/ and does not want to compete with the official Wik

Re: When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 09.07.2008 um 06:34 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth: > And is it any other stores that sells ten packs? Look here: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner Nikolaus Schaller, responsible for that... ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Chaosspawn23
Kevin Zuber schrieb: > Hi, > > I did some tests yesterday and here are my experiences with Freerunner's > GPS: > > First I put the Freerunner on a window sill in a penthouse, no high-rise > around. I got a fix after ~20 minutes. Disappointing. > Later on I walked along in a big city between a lot

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Vinc Duran
That ASUS model seems to come with a mini USB already. No adapters. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I googled and found this: > > > http://pc.pcconnection.com/1/1/44869-asus-computer-international-r2h-slim-usb-2-0-foldable-keyboard-04gngv1kus00.html > >

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread kenneth marken
On Wednesday 09 July 2008 04:38:07 Shawn Rutledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jeremy List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm think a one-handed keyboard on the back of a freerunner would be a > > great thing. Frogpad has the disadvantage that it needs a different > > model depending o

Re: When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
steve skrev: > from our store, expect 900 in a couple weeks. > > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Rob Wood > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:31 PM > *To:* List for Openmoko commu

Re: Robotics and Openmoko

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Pax
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Peter Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been doing some robotics with Openmoko; with the Neo 1973. I thought I > would introduce myself a little. > > Since January this year I have been working on a solar powered autonomous > boat project. I decided on usi

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

2008-07-08 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 7/8/08 Stroller wrote: > Sean - you say in your post of 8 July 2008 14:27:41 BST that you're > inclined to remove 'device-owners'. Can I ask you to consider a while > > longer, please? We're talking about circa 100 messages per day, so it > > might be best not to be too hasty. Maybe you

Re: Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A long time ago I read about a research project along these lines at > Xerox Parc Here we go: http://www.ubiq.com/parctab/ http://www.ubiq.com/parctab/csl9501/node4.html#SECTION0004 The 3 buttons were for

Re: Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jeremy List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm think a one-handed keyboard on the back of a freerunner would be a > great thing. Frogpad has the disadvantage that it needs a different > model depending on what hand you plan to use to type on it: I'm pretty > sure I cou

Robotics and Openmoko

2008-07-08 Thread Peter Harrison
I've been doing some robotics with Openmoko; with the Neo 1973. I thought I would introduce myself a little. Since January this year I have been working on a solar powered autonomous boat project. I decided on using a Openmoko as the on board computer as it has excellent power requirement characte

Re: Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Jeremy List
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erland Lewin wrote: > > or this: it seems quite crazy to me :P > > http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/frogpad-mini-keyboard-usb.shtml > > > the frogpad looks great, but no way i can justify $100+ on it I'm think a one-handed keyboar

Re: Phones are headed out of fremont CA.

2008-07-08 Thread Dustin Knie
Awesome! Now just to wait for shipping confirmation and tracking numbers. Really wish I paid for faster shipping now :/ Ah well, if I have to wait until next week, thats the way it'll have to go. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmok

Re: Phones are headed out of fremont CA.

2008-07-08 Thread Seattle Web Creations, LLC
What's the word on tracking numbers? On 7/8/08 5:59 PM, "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We had a couple minor issues ( packing label stuff) on Monday which Harry > and I resolved. So today > The shipping folks started to put together packages for UPS to pick up. I > should have taken

RE: When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread steve
from our store, expect 900 in a couple weeks. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Wood Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:31 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will the sale of GSM 900 start? Alexander. I meant to say availab

RE: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-08 Thread steve
No ASU is a pre alpha set of applications. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hessing Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01? Hi all, Hopefully I get my te

RE: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-08 Thread steve
ASU is pre alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Dean Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:10 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01? I've not used the ASU on a 1973, but I know I've never

RE: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread steve
I would guess in a couple weeks. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Masoom Alam Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:20 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: band issue Till when OpenMOKO plans for 900 Band to be availalbe on its own site, b

Phones are headed out of fremont CA.

2008-07-08 Thread steve
We had a couple minor issues ( packing label stuff) on Monday which Harry and I resolved. So today The shipping folks started to put together packages for UPS to pick up. I should have taken pictures. After tommorrow I hope to have a definitive answer to the "will call" question. __

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Edwin Lock
Hello, Why not ask (for example) trisoft.de personally? I am sure that they will try to arrange something if it is possible for them. Regards, Edwin Lock On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Masoom Alam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Till when OpenMOKO plans for 900 Band to be availalbe on its own site,

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Masoom Alam
Till when OpenMOKO plans for 900 Band to be availalbe on its own site, beside in Europe? Actually from Europe, it is not possible to directly ship to Pakistan, however, with from OpenMOKO site, it is. Or can any body point out a store in Europe, where there is possible to ship it directly to Paki

Re: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-08 Thread Kevin Dean
I've not used the ASU on a 1973, but I know I've never been able to place calls using the ASU on Freerunner and I use T-Mobile in the USA with the exception of the first image released. I've always assumed ASU just didn't work. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Chris Hessing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Scott Derrick
That is great news!! Just what I needed Scott Florian Hackenberger wrote: > The port for the GSM antenna is under the cover according > to [1]: > Accessible GSM/GPRS antenna jack (if battery cover is removed) > > [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware > > -- -

vmware appliance for Xoo/Xephyr

2008-07-08 Thread C R McClenaghan
The Wiki states that a vmware appliance exists for Xoo/Xephyr based development. I've not been able to locate it via search. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-08 Thread Chris Hessing
Hi all, Hopefully I get my terminology right. Late last year there were some issues with the T-Mobile SIMs and the GTA01. I got side-tracked on my GTA01 efforts and never sent my phone in for the firmware update. A few days ago I tried an OpenMoko build from late April, and found it worked w

Re: When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Rob Wood skrev: > Alexander. I meant to say available to pre-order now for shipping on > the 18th. Sorry Rob > > Rob Wood wrote: >> We have them available now at our UK shop >> https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Shop&thiscat=8 >> >> Alexander Frøyseth wrote: >>> I am refreshing

Re: When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread Rob Wood
Alexander. I meant to say available to pre-order now for shipping on the 18th. Sorry Rob Rob Wood wrote: We have them available now at our UK shop https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Shop&thiscat=8 Alexander Frøyseth wrote: I am refreshing the mokostore site every 5 min. Man

Re: When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread Rob Wood
We have them available now at our UK shop https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Shop&thiscat=8 Alexander Frøyseth wrote: I am refreshing the mokostore site every 5 min. Manually When are the sale going to start??? Are almost sick to get one!! Alexander Frøyseth ___

Reviews?

2008-07-08 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi All from new subscriber to the list ;-) I went ahead and started wiki page to collect links such personal pieces of opinions on how good/bad freerunner is. I think it might be useful in many respects. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner:_Selected_Blogs_and_Articles and extend with li

Internal Connections

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Pax
Is there any way to commmunicate with the Freerunner through an internal connection (USB or serial, not I2C)? This would be useful in creating a bar code/RFID tag reader into the back cover. If not, is something like this planned for a future version? -Charles _

Join the New York Group!!!

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Pax
I just want to let everyone know that we need five more people to pay in order to finish a second batch of ten for the New York group. The group can be found at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#New_York_.2820.2F20.29 If your name is on the list below and you haven't paid, contact Bert or M

Re: Different hardware in the future?

2008-07-08 Thread Ole Kliemann
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:44:16PM +0200, Jay Vaughan wrote: > > Or will there be another hardware iteration then, eventually making it > > necessary to change the hardware? > > .. the interest in the older platforms and the newer platforms is only > going to pale as newer platforms are introduc

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
here we go again XD let's stop it NOW! /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Different hardware in the future?

2008-07-08 Thread Ole Kliemann
> > I read, it is intended for end-users > > but not yet quite end-user-capable. I wasn't sure whether this is a > > question of software only, or one of hardware too. > Software only. > Freerunner is supposed to be the final design. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. :) pgpYR0VLswxvI.pgp Des

RE: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread steve
Well, Sean is sick in bed from taking Malaria shots since he is traveling to Ghana to speak. I have been Busy at the wharehouse and Wolfgang is aware of your issue and we have folks on it trying to duplicate the issue and figure it out. Sean, for example, has had no issues in TPE, west co

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 8. Juli 2008 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: > Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: > > D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) > Vodafone > O2 > T-D1 (T-Mobile) > > I don't see any pattern. > > Who has a German SIM working in their FR? I tried o2 (9Y old): ok Vodaphone (unknown but probab

When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
I am refreshing the mokostore site every 5 min. Manually When are the sale going to start??? Are almost sick to get one!! Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/com

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Hugo Mills
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:20:17PM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > The GSM-antenna connector is near "hole" and near one of the two screws, > inside of Neo. You see when opening back-lid. Is there a standardised connection for such things? Can I buy anything describing itself as a "GPS anten

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
The GSM-antenna connector is near "hole" and near one of the two screws, inside of Neo. You see when opening back-lid. HTH jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.op

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Erland Lewin
I googled and found this: http://pc.pcconnection.com/1/1/44869-asus-computer-international-r2h-slim-usb-2-0-foldable-keyboard-04gngv1kus00.html A foldable, (but not flexible) keyboard. I don't know anything more about it, but I like the idea better than the rollable membrane keyboards. Here's an

Re: USB keyboard

2008-07-08 Thread Esben Stien
"Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=us,en -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Chris
Al Johnson wrote: > It would be very easy to take the formulae from the spreadsheet in > javascript. > Alternatively you can use it directly in the script if you glue in the calcs > in perl to calculate $posx, $posy and $posz as below. Variable $posacc is the > estimated accuracy of the supplie

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote: > > In the link you can see the coordinates and use the spreadsheet > > attached > > to his mail to calculate the right x,y,z. > > This works very well, i've been able to get a fix easy now. > > Could you do a step-by-step guide for how to do this, and pu

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/7/8 Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is > "thumbpad keyboard" and I think it is unusable if you are thinking > about writing using all the fingers of your hands. i'm not sure to be honest - i want to look at a few options. i t

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Kevin Dean
Not everyone uses Gmail, but that said, most modern mail clients offer the same kind of sorting. Personally, I like modularlity. I'm subscribed to every Openmoko list except the kernel devel one, but I can see very compelling reasons why someone might be interested in say, not being on community b

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Dustin Knie
> FWIW I prefer the mailing list subject lines as they are. > > [openmoko-users] preppended to the subject line just adds clutter and > reduces the useful description of the subject that can be used in > that line. Only so much fits in the list of messages in the mail- > client's window and [openmo

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Kluge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:17:17PM +0200, Michael Kluge wrote: > My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers >>

RE: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread McCreery, Lee CTR DISA
Shaz, When ordering from Openmoko.com there will be radio buttons to select the different models( 850 or 900), but at this time the Openmoko.com store does not have the 900MHz units available. At least they didn't have the 900MHz as of last Thursday. Lee _ From: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Battery loading ...

2008-07-08 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > 1) The battery seems to be charging: > But why is the value POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW negative? Positive => Discharging current Negative => Charging current Simple as that. :) -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de このメール

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
> I'm glad I purchased an openmoko though. I'm tired of fighting against > mobile phone vendors. > yeah, its a lot easier to fight against all the open source guys shivvying into position to make *the* bomb distro for the freerunner, thus destroying all hope of 3rd-party developer markets bei

RE: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Crane, Matthew
I want to get a frogpad to go with the phone. I've not tried it but they seem pretty cool. http://www.frogpad.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Paulson Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:36 AM To: List for Openmoko community disc

Re: SIM problems

2008-07-08 Thread Tobias Diedrich
steve wrote: > Michael had some similar issues. They were cleared up when he asked for a > replacement SIM. For some totally unknown reason, my Vodafone SIM suddenly started working just fine yesterday. -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de このメールは十割再利用され

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Shaz
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in Pakistan the 900/1800 freq are used so they should be fine, if you > get the 900/1800/1900 vers. It is the same vers shipped in Europe. > It is important because if you do get the 850/1800/1900 version some > operators w

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Shaz
I had a talk with them earlier but they do not ship to Pakistan. If I ask a friend like in Germany then will he be able to ship it to me considering shipment policy in Germany? Any better ideas? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Yorick Moko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, that is the one > > I d

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Tilman Baumann
Russell Sears wrote: > Paul Wouters wrote: >> This is exactly what Motorola does. It is the "60 seconds" of working >> phone with "openezx". > > GPLv3 doesn't say anything about how the protection is implemented, > though it does say "continued functioning," so I think they've covered > this lo

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Russell Sears
Paul Wouters wrote: > Now imagine the OS being linux with no restrictions, fully GPLv3 compatible. > Now imagine one propretary binary running on that GPLv3 platform, which > sends a signature based on the OS/kernel contents to the baseband via serial. > If it is not a known good signature, the ba

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread martin-o23533
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:17:17PM +0200, Michael Kluge wrote: > > > My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - > > > does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is > > > on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers > > > > > > One colleague's Dutch Oran

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Look again... there are two ports for external antennas. As far as I can see, there is just one antenna jack on the Freerunner on the outside. The port for the GSM antenna is under the cover according to [1]: Accessible GSM/GPRS antenna jac

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
> Is that what the hole in the side of the Freerunner is in this image? > http://www.elitezoom.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/openmoko-neo1973-black1.jpg > > This is the only image I could find with that side exposed. that would be the headset jack (at least it is in the fr) -- unless it doubles

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Shiloh
Good, good. Keep those ideas coming, and I encourage you all to think way outside the traditional box of cellphone applications. Michael Jay Vaughan wrote: >> Let's see more crazy/interesting ideas! > > > As soon as we've got voice-recognition onboard, we can use it to > automate such thin

Re: Sims

2008-07-08 Thread ian douglas
I use a 3G SIM card from AT&T and it works just fine. Scott Derrick wrote: > I'm expecting my FreeRunner soon and was wondering about the Sim card > issue the 1973 version experienced. > > Was it fixed? Can I expect just about any AT&T sim card to work now? > > I was looking on ebay for sim ca

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Wouters
> > At LinuxTag 2008 I learned that Motorola is giving you the kernel > sources but are using signed kernels and the bootloader to prevent you > from putting your own kernel on the device. I expect that phones > provided by LIMO and OHA will have the same 'feature'. Unfortunately its > the linux k

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Pax
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look again... there are two ports for external antennas. > Is that what the hole in the side of the Freerunner is in this image? http://www.elitezoom.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/openmoko-neo1973-black1.jpg Th

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is "thumbpad keyboard" and I think it is unusable if you are thinking about writing using all the fingers of your hands. Or what about a flexible one? like http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0194 or this: it seems quite cr

USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all! > > At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good > portable bluetooth keyboard. > > What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there are var

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

2008-07-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Jul 2008, at 10:56, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> Please keep device-owners and community. >> >> shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be >> congruent, >> now the freerunner is in the world? > > P

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Jul 2008, at 12:57, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just >> curious > > No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted > for more than a m

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Yorick Moko
yes, that is the one I don't know if they ship to Pakistan, you better ask them: http://www.idasystems.net/contact_us On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Masoom Alam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please specify that indian seller. > > I think it is IDA systems right? > > does that seller ship it to P

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag 08 Juli 2008 15:49:08 schrieb Scott Derrick: > I was hoping the external ant port on the FreeRunner was for the cell > modem and was disappointed to find out it was for the GPS. Look again... there are two ports for external antennas. :M: _

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Kluge
The SIMYO is. Not sure about the other. Michael Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2008 15:22:49 schrieb Francesco Cat: > yes! tell us if they are UMTS capable or not! :) > > 2008/7/8 Michael Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - > >> > does that

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Masoom Alam
Please specify that indian seller. I think it is IDA systems right? does that seller ship it to Pakistan? any information On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Yorick Moko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "but whether we will get it or not." > why wouldn't you get it if you order it and pay for it? > > p

External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Scott Derrick
I was hoping the external ant port on the FreeRunner was for the cell modem and was disappointed to find out it was for the GPS. Any diagrams available on how to add an antenna port myself? What contacts to solder to, etc... Will I need a switch to enable an external antenna or will it just

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread cedric cellier
They are not phones, but the Nokia internet tablets are not that far for freedom and deserve to be mentionned IMHO. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Sims

2008-07-08 Thread Scott Derrick
I'm expecting my FreeRunner soon and was wondering about the Sim card issue the 1973 version experienced. Was it fixed? Can I expect just about any AT&T sim card to work now? I was looking on ebay for sim cards and couldn't find any that were in the "good list" as published here. http://wiki.

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread atweb
I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of "Viag-Interkom" in my Freerunner with the Code "1001710251761MC" on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Sander van Grieken
> Hmm, I ordered the 28th and have not heard from them since the confirmation > e-mail. I ordered the 27th and only received confirmation mail so far. Guess I was just too late for the first batch.. grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list co

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-08 Thread Michael
On 04/07/08 20:38:02, Michael Shiloh wrote: > > Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to > charge the > > phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. > > > Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor > yourself, > or manually enable 1A ch

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
arne anka wrote: >> No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. >> > > so you were speaking about the discussions that may arise from the request > not some drawbacks of the markers as such? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think > of the following: > >1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called > 'devel'. > >2) Remove 'device-owners'. > >3) Remove 'hardware'. It seems like genera

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
yes! tell us if they are UMTS capable or not! :) 2008/7/8 Michael Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - >> > does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is >> > on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers >> > >> >

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Yorick Moko
"but whether we will get it or not." why wouldn't you get it if you order it and pay for it? ps: there is an indian reseller, maybe that way will be cheaper for you? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Masoom Alam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Till when it will be available in the 900/... Bank.. > Se

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Kluge
> > My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - > > does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is > > on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers > > > > One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German > > Vodafone SIMs did not. > > > >

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Masoom Alam
Till when it will be available in the 900/... Bank.. Secondly, the OpenMOKO website suggests that UPS will deliver it to Pakistan with an additional cost of 101.xx$. Can any body provide me some clue that if this possible at all, i mean we will order it, but whether we will get it or not. Thanks,

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
> Who has a German SIM working in their FR? me. as posted before: simyo (e-plus no frills), 2.5G, ie not umts capable, only gprs. says 16K 3V at its back. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailm

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Peter Thorin
I got mine from handhelds today, very happy! -- Peter Thorin On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At what point did you pay Pulster? I placed the order, but have not > > received payment instructions. > > > Same with me .. so I ordered from handhelds instea

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
in Pakistan the 900/1800 freq are used so they should be fine, if you get the 900/1800/1900 vers. It is the same vers shipped in Europe. It is important because if you do get the 850/1800/1900 version some operators will not work at all. 2008/7/8 Shaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Have openMoko been made

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - > does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is > on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers > > One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other Germ

band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Shaz
Have openMoko been made for bands available in Pakistan? Are they ready for shipment? I am curious because openmoko site has shipment available for Pakistan but are they considering the band regulations of pakistan? -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailin

OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi, yesterday I read an article in the German computer magazine c't that gives an overview over the projects dealing with Linux-based smartphones. As you might know besides OpenMoko there is the LiMo Foundation (lots of companies), Open Handset Alliance (Google, Android) and the LiPs Forum. As it

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just curious >> > > No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted > for more than a month, wasti

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
> No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. so you were speaking about the discussions that may arise from the request not some drawbacks of the markers as such? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmok

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just curious No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted for more than a month, wasting lots of time for anybody reading this list, an

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
>> Not really my idea of "quite accurate"! >> > > It's just initialisation data. More accurate will probably be better, but > 20km > of doesn't sound that bad. It sure is *way* better than not even knowing > which hemisphere you're in. > > Actually it think just knowing which country your

Re: audio/video support

2008-07-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:06:19 +0200 thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > I did some basic testing with video and mp3: > Both works, mp3 without any problem, video the resolution/quality fits. > The Freerunner plays [EMAIL PROTECTED] fps at a reasonable bitrate. No > difference > between internal

Re: Software Status Update

2008-07-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:38:21 +0200 Audrius Meskauskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > GTK is under LGPL and Qtopia is under GPL. This may mean nothing for the > individual developer, but under GTK we may expect more "commercial", > proprietary applications appearing. One can buy "commercial" lice

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Matt Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Dear Community >>> >> Would there be any support for prefixing the subject with the list names ? >> eg [openmoko-community] >> It's a trivial enough to implement with Mailman (

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread AVee
On Tuesday 08 July 2008 13:09, flexd wrote: > What i did with my phone (using the script stuff Al posted), i took my > position from google maps, simply by finding my home, centering it, and > making a link. > > In the link you can see the coordinates and use the spreadsheet attached > to his mail

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 13:36 +0200, flexd wrote: > Im actually having some trouble installing that, it says: > > / > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin# opkg install > http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk > Downloading > http://people.openmoko.org/tony

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi flexed- Could you scp this ipk into GTA02, and try install from GTA02? Tony Tu flexd ??: > Im actually having some trouble installing that, it says: > > / > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin# opkg install > http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread flexd
Im actually having some trouble installing that, it says: / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin# opkg install http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk Mul

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