Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread André Gaul
Hey, I've got my 8 GB SanDisk microSD SDHC and my mass-production Freerunner yesterday. Works like a charm (damn, I didn't know these cards are that small! ;) ). I'll do some benchmarks and post them to the list ASAP. If you want me to do some special test runs, just let me know! ciao, André ian

Re: In the press

2008-07-10 Thread Anthony Russello
Hi, Speaking as someone who is trying to get the whole build environment up and running for the first time, I would say it is a very accurate statement. Is there any good step by step how to guide on building everything from scratch, from the toolchain up? I'm using gentoo, amd64, and the latest

Presentation and some questions about flashing Freerunner

2008-07-10 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi all, My name is Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas. We have the opportunity to have Sean in Colombia (my natal country) few weeks ago. For those of you who have read the "Lets us impact the material world" post on the announce list, I'm the same Offray, from the same Colombia :). So first thanks

Re: In the press

2008-07-10 Thread Shawn Thompson
It is rather accurate. I went in an updated a few links to openembed and also ended up asking the community list for how to do proper emulation as the steps listed for mokomakefile were producing an unusable QEMU image. -Shawn On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Vinc Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: GTA02 final revision?

2008-07-10 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
2008/7/11 Bert Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Not Quite, IIRC > > GTA02v5 is what's been slated to be mass production for ever. While GTA02v6 > plans were finalized a while ago, we'd still be waiting for it to go to > mass-production, and seeing as the two are identical to the end user they > wen

850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?

2008-07-10 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Hey I just wonder why the 900 was delayed with ten days when the 850 ten pack was sold out? I was so happy to see that I was going to order my 10 pack of 900 on Monday, but suddenly the date was 25th instead 15th. When I saw that the 850 ten packs was sold out, I also saw that the 900 was delayed.

Re: 850 MHz 10-Pack Sold out!

2008-07-10 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
2008/7/11 Charles Pax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wow! It looks like openmoko.com has sold out of the 850 MHz ten packs. I'm > disappointed that the Freerunners are now less available, but thrilled that > they are selling so well. > > What ten pack version will be stocked first, the 850 or 900 MHz? > >

Re: Sim card is not working, how do I run diagnostics?

2008-07-10 Thread Adam Talbot
ixed it. AT&T, 71234G (3022) I have two, both failed. Should there be a global SIM card compatibility section? Like this, just MUCH bigger? http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers/ATT I am running a Freerunner + Openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080710-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, my

850 MHz 10-Pack Sold out!

2008-07-10 Thread Charles Pax
Wow! It looks like openmoko.com has sold out of the 850 MHz ten packs. I'm disappointed that the Freerunners are now less available, but thrilled that they are selling so well. What ten pack version will be stocked first, the 850 or 900 MHz? -Charles __

"5 reasons to avoid iPhone 3G", Recommends the FreeRunner.

2008-07-10 Thread Nigel
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/5-reasons-to-avoid-iphone-3g/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: In the press

2008-07-10 Thread Vinc Duran
I think it's accurate. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Matt Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I found this yesterday, thought it was quite an ok article. > http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/open-moko-software.ars > > This stood out for me "*The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete

Shipping notice received for 1445

2008-07-10 Thread Gary Oliver
I received my shipping notice today (at 1700 PDT) with expected delivery on Monday, July 14. Looks like I'll get my second phone first since the Pacific Northwest group buy hasn't heard its slot yet. It's a good thing it isn't coming this week. I have too much stuff to do and I know I wouldn't g

In the press

2008-07-10 Thread Matt Joyce
I found this yesterday, thought it was quite an ok article. http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/open-moko-software.ars This stood out for me "*The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki*..." Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do

Re: GTA02 final revision?

2008-07-10 Thread Bert Hartmann
Not Quite, IIRC GTA02v5 is what's been slated to be mass production for ever. While GTA02v6 plans were finalized a while ago, we'd still be waiting for it to go to mass-production, and seeing as the two are identical to the end user they went ahead and produced v5 (I believe v6 rearranged the boar

Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Randy S.
Chris, Have you tried re-re-booting? I've flashed the QTopia image a couple of times on my GTA02 and the first time it boots after a flash, it does what you described (a couple of seconds on the pretty screen, then black screen, AUX gives "^@"). I hold down Power for several seconds till it kills

Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Chris Hessing
Lorn - Thanks for the image for the GTA01! I loaded it up on my phone, and it works like a champ without the SIM. When I put the SIM in, it starts up, and then quickly goes to a black text screen. It looks like the UI is crashing. Tapping the screen does nothing, and pressing the AUX butto

Sim card is not working, how do I run diagnostics?

2008-07-10 Thread Adam Talbot
My sim card is not working, how do I run diagnostics? I was looking on the Wiki, but searching for sim turns up nothing worth while. I have a pile of sim card to work with, each different. Would love to test them out. Where is the "how to"? -Adam __

Re: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-10 Thread Chris Hessing
So at the risk of starting this thread back up, why does my SIM work with two of the images, but not the others? Is it a difference in kernels? Some plumbing between the UI and the kernel? Or a UI issue? (Or all of the above?) Basically, can I flash the kernel from an image that worked, and

GSM Data

2008-07-10 Thread Scott Derrick
When i "finally" get my FreeRunner is there an application available that will display GSM data? Which tower, signal strength, noise, etc. Scott -- - Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor liberty. Benjamin Franklin _

Re: which list to write to (was Re: x offset in landscape mode)

2008-07-10 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 15:41 +0100, Stroller wrote: > > > Or to merge them? > > Yikes! Please no! > Keep in mind that: The more lists you have, the more fragmented the data is and the harder it is to both find relevant data (generally you have to be a member of the list), and get participants t

Preparing video for Freerunner

2008-07-10 Thread Steven **
I read previous threads about playing video on the Freerunner. I know there are limitations. So, my question is basically this: what would be the best settings for ffmpeg to produce a video for the Freerunner? On a related note, has there been much progress with the glamo chip? See http://unadv

Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Lorn Potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > sorry lorn, cheered to soon... > > there are any problems with the mic and the speaker...so, i can create call`s > but i hear nothing and on the > opposition > are nothing too..so, the main-application (create & receive call`s) don`t > function on my freerunner...the

AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sorry lorn, cheered to soon... there are any problems with the mic and the speaker...so, i can create call`s but i hear nothing and on the opposition are nothing too..so, the main-application (create & receive call`s) don`t function on my freerunner...the other tings are tiptop anyone how

Re: hardware keyboard?

2008-07-10 Thread kenneth marken
On Thursday 10 July 2008 20:14:50 Francesco Cat wrote: > And now, tell me how will you be able to use the camera :P > heh, i forgot to add a line asking of this could be a idea for the freerunner... as the freerunner have no camera, that will be no problem ;) > 2008/7/10 kenneth marken <[EMAIL

AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi lorn thanks a lot...function on my freerunner :-) Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 11.07.2008 01:24 An: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Betreff: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download? Lorn Potter wrote: > Kevin Dean wrote: >> On Th

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Lorn Potter
Lorn Potter wrote: > Kevin Dean wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Get the "Qtopia flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)" file instead. >>> http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 >>> >> That image is the one that contai

Re: GTA02 final revision?

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Hardware : GTA02 > Revision : 0350 > Serial: I see the same on my GTA02 v5 (beta test model) Freerunner. > But on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware > there's at leas an ATAG_REVISION: 0360 liste

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
ian douglas wrote: > I'll try Mike's iospeed utility next, but here's a dual-run of the > bonnie++ utility: I should mention too that before running bonnie++ or Mike's utility, that I deleted the FAT32 partition on the 8GB card, created a single primary type-83 Linux partition and formatted it ext

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andy Selby ha scritto: >> How do you enable 1A charging via software? The "echo 'fast_cccv' > >> etc.." only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, >> or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by >> the way. > > I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge

GTA02 final revision?

2008-07-10 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi. Just a short question: I've bought my GTA02 about a week ago at pulster.de ... When I do a cat /proc/cpuinfo it tells me Hardware: GTA02 Revision: 0350 Serial : But on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware there's at leas an ATAG

RE: Clarifications of downloadable file types

2008-07-10 Thread Randy Schnedler
Al and Jay, thank you for your responses. That is exactly what I was looking for. Jay, I will have a look at the wiki for 'dfu utility' for more info. Al, here's more about my background than you probably had in mind... I started with BASIC and Assembly on a Commodore 64, wrote C on the Amiga, V

Re: Reviews?

2008-07-10 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Andy Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you saying a neo1973 is more reliable then a freerunner? As of this moment, I have never Qtopia on my Freerunner. Lorn says there are Qtopia images for Freerunner, but I haven't seen them. Because, for my use, there is n

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
Shawn Rutledge wrote: > What about on the GTA01? The biggest I have tried so far is 2 gig > because I wasn't sure if SDHC was working. I sold my GTA01 months ago earlier this year, so I can only test on my GTA02v5. I imagine someone with a v6 Freerunner can do some additional testing. -id _

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Got my 8GB SanDisk 8GB micro SDHC card [1] in a few minutes ago, >> popped >> it into my GTA02v5 (beta tester model) Freerunner and running a few >> tests on it. So far, so good. What about on the GTA01? The biggest I hav

Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile

2008-07-10 Thread Shawn Thompson
Thanks again so much! I couldn't hold back. I was able to get the daily build to run on QEMU, will have to play with it more at work. -Shawn On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Søren Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just download the newest images from the buildhost and place them in > ima

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
Mike Montour wrote: > you could use something standard like "bonnie++". I'll try Mike's iospeed utility next, but here's a dual-run of the bonnie++ utility: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# bonnie\+\+ -d /media/card -s 256 -r 128 -x2 -u 0 Using uid:0, gid:0. name,file_size,putc,putc_cpu,put_block,put_block_

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:45 -0700, ian douglas wrote: > Got my 8GB SanDisk 8GB micro SDHC card [1] I have one, too. Ok it is a SanDisk SDHC ultra 8GB... Seems to work,.. I've already added it to the wikipage :) Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread Cédric Berger
I'm interested too by your tests... I think I will also buy a sandisk 8gb Anyway, I would like to know if with a really fast card, the bottleneck will be the neo, or if in all cases the faster the card, the better the performances in the neo ? What is the theoretical limit speed of SD interface

Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile

2008-07-10 Thread Shawn Thompson
Thank you Søren. I will give that a try tonight while I'm bored at work after-hours. -Shawn On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Søren Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just download the newest images from the buildhost and place them in > images/openmoko/ and do: > make flash-qemu-official

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-10 Thread Andy Selby
> How do you enable 1A charging via software? The "echo 'fast_cccv' > > etc.." only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, > or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by > the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the

Re: Reviews?

2008-07-10 Thread Andy Selby
2008/7/8 Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Speaking very honestly, I don't use my Freerunner in daily use but I > use my 1973 with Qtopia since it's pretty stable and functional. Are you saying a neo1973 is more reliable then a freerunner? Is qtopia on GTA01 more stable than on GTA02? If so I'll p

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Lane
Dustin Knie wrote: > Absolutely. I'm hoping they post some sort of stats for the first few > days after shipping catches up. And based on the order numbers, i'm > leaning toward probably an intial run around 1500-2k. > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Francesco Cat > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Lane
Dustin Knie wrote: > Have you all added stuff to the Wheres My Freerunner? page? its > semi-useful for us with ADD trying to figure out when we might get > confirmation... ;) > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Matthew Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > christ

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread Mike Montour
ian douglas wrote: > Hey all, > > Got my 8GB SanDisk 8GB micro SDHC card [1] in a few minutes ago, popped > it into my GTA02v5 (beta tester model) Freerunner and running a few > tests on it. So far, so good. Cool. If you have time, can you post some performance numbers for it? http://members.sha

AW: Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hmmm...the screen does nothing...the freerunner allways change from a black background to graphical interface with a clock in the middle and batterie status right up when i put the AUX-Button it gives me a little white @...never mind! i`ll wait for the jffs2 filethanks for your help! -

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread Jay Vaughan
> Got my 8GB SanDisk 8GB micro SDHC card [1] in a few minutes ago, > popped > it into my GTA02v5 (beta tester model) Freerunner and running a few > tests on it. So far, so good. I've got one of these ready to pop into my Freerunner when it arrives as well, and if it works, the big question is

Re: Clarifications of downloadable file types

2008-07-10 Thread Jay Vaughan
> *.tar.gz - I know what a tarball is, but when the same filename > exists with both a jffs2 and a tar.gz extension, do they contain the > same thing? Why? Is the tar used with an emulator? Would I ever need > it for the real device? > .jffs2 is for burning to the device, .tar.gz is a copy o

Re: Accelerometer

2008-07-10 Thread Francesco Cat
BTW: Where are tha accelerometers placed exactly? The images I've found tell the positions of almost any chip but no accelerometer is mentioned 2008/7/10 Jakob Westhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Andreas Kemnade wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:26:45 +0200 >> Tobias Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
Steven ** wrote: > That's good news. Hopefully I'll have as good luck with the 8GB card > I just bought. It's A-Data brand. I decided to go with a well-known name brand to start, that was the only reason. Newegg.com had cheaper 8GB micro SDHC cards too. -id

Re: Clarifications of downloadable file types

2008-07-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 10 July 2008, Randy Schnedler wrote: > Hi all. I am an experienced developer, though not so much with Linux > development. As I await the arrival of my FR, I have tried to prepare some > different things I want to try. What sort of background? It might help someone else give better exp

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread Dustin Knie
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Steven ** < [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > That's good news. Hopefully I'll have as good luck with the 8GB card > I just bought. It's A-Data brand. But it was a good price: > http://digitaldeals.net/article69437.html > > -Steven > > Not bad. So

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Lorn Potter
Kevin Dean wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Get the "Qtopia flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)" file instead. >> http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 >> > > That image is the one that contains a tar.gz image of th

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Get the "Qtopia flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)" file instead. > http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 > That image is the one that contains a tar.gz image of the rootfs, not a jffs2 image.

Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Lorn Potter
GoXbox Live wrote: > Hi Lorn > > Could you also make images for NEO1973. Or is this image compatible with > GTA01 also? > > gxl That one is not compatible with gta01, although the same Qtopia should be and is used for both images. I was working on that yesterday, but got sidetracked. I shoul

gps antenna in back cover?

2008-07-10 Thread arne anka
hi, speaking of soldering irons: does anyone of you hardware guys know whether it is possible to construct an additional gps antenna that fits somehow into the back cover of the freerunner? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko

Re: Found it.(GSM antenna port)

2008-07-10 Thread Brian Wilson
> Sounds messy, what's wrong with using a drill (after separating case > and circuit board of course)? > > Hans A soldering iron makes a nice neat hole and a little nasty toxic smoke. A drill sheds little bits of plastic that are static charged so they are sticky and migrate to inconvenient places

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread Steven **
That's good news. Hopefully I'll have as good luck with the 8GB card I just bought. It's A-Data brand. But it was a good price: http://digitaldeals.net/article69437.html -Steven On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:45 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey all, > > Got my 8GB SanDisk 8GB micro

Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread GoXbox Live
Hi Lorn Could you also make images for NEO1973. Or is this image compatible with GTA01 also? gxl 2008/7/10, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have build a jffs2 file; > > > > mkfs.jffs2 --pad=0x70 -o rootfs.jffs2 -e 0x4000 -n -d /tmp/jffsroot/ > > > > than,

SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
Hey all, Got my 8GB SanDisk 8GB micro SDHC card [1] in a few minutes ago, popped it into my GTA02v5 (beta tester model) Freerunner and running a few tests on it. So far, so good. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mount | grep media /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card type vfat (rw,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp4

Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile

2008-07-10 Thread Søren Kristiansen
Just download the newest images from the buildhost and place them in images/openmoko/ and do: make flash-qemu-official make run-qemu I dont know why but it downloads an old bugged image (bugged in the emulator at least... dunno if it works on any of the neos) 2008/7/10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I

Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Lorn Potter
Lorn Potter wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I have build a jffs2 file; >> >> mkfs.jffs2 --pad=0x70 -o rootfs.jffs2 -e 0x4000 -n -d /tmp/jffsroot/ >> >> than, i installed the jffs2 with dfu-util...all things looks good...but when >> i boot this rootfs, i just see a black >> screen with a

Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Lorn Potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have build a jffs2 file; > > mkfs.jffs2 --pad=0x70 -o rootfs.jffs2 -e 0x4000 -n -d /tmp/jffsroot/ > > than, i installed the jffs2 with dfu-util...all things looks good...but when > i boot this rootfs, i just see a black > screen with a white underline and all ca

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-10 Thread Lorn Potter
dorje wrote: > Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> There is a Qtopia image for freerunner at qtopia.net. > > Thank you! :) > > Can I use the "rootfs-gta02.tgz" directly whith dfu-util or have I to build a > jffs2 file? > Get the "Qtopia flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)" fil

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Dustin Knie
Absolutely. I'm hoping they post some sort of stats for the first few days after shipping catches up. And based on the order numbers, i'm leaning toward probably an intial run around 1500-2k. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must admit I am really co

Clarifications of downloadable file types

2008-07-10 Thread Randy Schnedler
Hi all. I am an experienced developer, though not so much with Linux development. As I await the arrival of my FR, I have tried to prepare some different things I want to try. First, I admire and appreciate that a lot of work is represented in openmoko... Both by the company people and contribu

Re: hardware keyboard?

2008-07-10 Thread Francesco Cat
And now, tell me how will you be able to use the camera :P 2008/7/10 kenneth marken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/extndr-concept-turns-the-iphone-into-a-slider-mid > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.ope

Re: Found it.(GSM antenna port)

2008-07-10 Thread Hans L
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Vinc Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow. Perfect then. You might have to find the alternative back but that > should be possible. My coworker says, "burn a little hole in the back you > have with a hot soldering iron". He likes those straightforward hardware > mo

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Francesco Cat
I must admit I am really courious about how many FRs will be sold within the end of 2008. I really hope someone will tell us this number, don't matter when :P 2008/7/10 Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My gut says O

Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread Dustin Knie
Have you all added stuff to the Wheres My Freerunner? page? its semi-useful for us with ADD trying to figure out when we might get confirmation... ;) On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Matthew Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > christopher bradski wrote: > > I'm receiving mine today order #1440 :)

Pulster: DHL and Correos Spain

2008-07-10 Thread Diego Fdez.
Hi, Pulster is a great shop, I have no problem with them. This mail is about the interface between DHL and Correos Spain. Pulster states that parcels reach his destiny in 5 days using DHL. I live in Spain, my parcel left Pulster on 3/5 and today it's still travelling. When you send something

Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Lane
christopher bradski wrote: > I'm receiving mine today order #1440 :) > --Original Message-- > From: John Reese > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion > Sent: Jul 10, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: Highest orde

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My gut says OpenMoko first mass production run was approx > 1,000 to 1,500. > I think you're dramatically low-balling it. You're basing that on the number of phones ordered, but aren't factoring in the number shipped t

Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread christopher bradski
I'm receiving mine today order #1440 :) --Original Message-- From: John Reese Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion Sent: Jul 10, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ord

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Matt Luzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven Kurylo wrote: >> I think you're pretty low. In another thread someone said their OM >> store tracking number was 1087. Mine is in the 1600s. While there >> are some assumptions there, it strongly indecates they've s

Re: Order number wiki page

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
I added a column to indicate bulk orders, and added my order number as well. -id Peter Naulls wrote: > I've started a wiki page recording order numbers vs confirmation emails: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner%3F ___ Openmoko com

Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread Jon Pomeroy
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 17:02 +, Daniel Dadap wrote: > Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I think you're pretty low. In another thread someone said their OM > >store tracking number was 1087. Mine is in the 1600s. While there > >are some assumptions there, it strongly indecates the

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread JW
see also http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread John Reese
Daniel Dadap wrote: > Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think you're pretty low. In another thread someone said their OM >> store tracking number was 1087. Mine is in the 1600s. While there >> are some assumptions there, it strongly indecates they've shipped 600 >>from their store

Order number wiki page

2008-07-10 Thread Peter Naulls
I've started a wiki page recording order numbers vs confirmation emails: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner%3F Mine is 1345, so hopefully ship today. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.open

Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread ian douglas
Daniel Dadap wrote: > Has yours shipped yet? Our 10-pack is order #2267. I wonder how many they > ship a day. Mine is order 1843 and have not yet received a confirmation notice. I was hoping they'd have been in before the weekend so our bulk order group could meet up on Saturday, but I guess that

hardware keyboard?

2008-07-10 Thread kenneth marken
http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/extndr-concept-turns-the-iphone-into-a-slider-mid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread Daniel Dadap
Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think you're pretty low. In another thread someone said their OM >store tracking number was 1087. Mine is in the 1600s. While there >are some assumptions there, it strongly indecates they've shipped 600 >from their store alone. Has yours shipped yet?

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Matt Luzum
Steven Kurylo wrote: > I think you're pretty low. In another thread someone said their OM > store tracking number was 1087. Mine is in the 1600s. While there > are some assumptions there, it strongly indecates they've shipped 600 > from their store alone. Also note that presumably the 10-packs

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-10 Thread John Reese
Brian C wrote: > If there were to be some benefit from multiple lists, and there could > be, then they would need to be defined differently than "community" and > "device-owners" which contains far too much overlap. If there were a > "support" list that was clearly intended to be questions about h

3G sim that does work - Rogers (.ca)

2008-07-10 Thread Ian Darwin
A friend of mine interested in the Freerunner let me try his sim, which he swears is 3G. It worked fine for voice. I only had the stock ASU snapshot, no browser or email client, so we didn't get to test data. This is a Rogers sim, numbered 98303-72040-00917-X UO.2 (where the last 5 digits

Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Steven Kurylo
> Individual sales, worldwide > ~300 x 1 = 300 > > Jeffries' wild ass guess: Total GTA02 ordered = 750 +/- 250 > > My gut says OpenMoko first mass production run was approx > 1,000 to 1,500. I think you're pretty low. In another thread someone said their OM store tracking number was

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-10 Thread Brian C
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >>2) Remove 'device-owners'. > > 2) is a bit more controversial. But, being somebody that loves change, I > would like to try it as well. I think device-owners should be removed. It is easier, especially for newbies, to locate a single list "community" where they can

Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
NOTE: No animals were harmed in this thought experiment. Question: How many GTA02s ~ordered~ as of 10 Jul 2008? rjeffries estimates (tilted toward higher rather than lower): USA group sales: ~20 groups x 10 = 200 ECU ~15 groups x 10 = 150 Rest of world ~ 10 groups x 10 = 100 Individual sal

Re: Phone ideas

2008-07-10 Thread Yogiz
> My third is the ability to look up local businesses and etc based on > my GPS location. Lets say I want a place to get some pizza when I'm > out, I just the program to find local pizza places that are open > (using google's tools) I like the idea, but it would be better to use OpenStreetMap for

Re: real audio streams in OM

2008-07-10 Thread Vladimir Koutny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stroller wrote: > On 10 Jul 2008, at 15:40, arne anka wrote: >> mplayer is available. imho it's able to handle those. > > You neglected Mr Paulson's comment: > >"even the implementations that use mplayer rely on windows dlls" > There is 'realco

Re: real audio streams in OM

2008-07-10 Thread Stroller
On 10 Jul 2008, at 15:40, arne anka wrote: > > mplayer is available. imho it's able to handle those. You neglected Mr Paulson's comment: "even the implementations that use mplayer rely on windows dlls" Certainly mplayer on my PS3 does not play Real streams as it does on my Pentium 4 (it si

Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile

2008-07-10 Thread jluis
> I've been wanting to test out the UI that is shown on the wiki and > software reviews around the net. Upon building (make qemu) and letting it > complete I got a very different UI that what I expected. Here's a couple of > screenshots: http://projektenterprises.com/mokoshots/ I think is a Qtopia

Re: which list to write to (was Re: x offset in landscape mode)

2008-07-10 Thread Stroller
On 10 Jul 2008, at 09:21, Benedikt Schindler wrote: > I also didn't know about these other list. > and i'm not subscribed to it. but i think if all questions that > belongs > to a real problem with the > device are placed to that list, there wouldn't be a reason to > listen to > this list her

Re: which list to write to (was Re: x offset in landscape mode)

2008-07-10 Thread Stroller
On 10 Jul 2008, at 07:17, Michael Kluge wrote: >> Further to the recent "questions about our mailinglists" thread, ISTM >> that this is more suitable for device-owners than the wider community >> list. >> As I see it you have a device in your hand and you want to hear from >> other users who have

Re: real audio streams in OM

2008-07-10 Thread arne anka
mplayer is available. imho it's able to handle those. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

real audio streams in OM

2008-07-10 Thread Robin Paulson
what is the likelihood of listening to real audio streams on an embedded linux device like the freerunner? afaics, real player is only available for x86, and even the implementations that use mplayer rely on windows dlls. does this mean we can't listen to them on our phones? anyone have any other

make build-package-claws-mail with mokomakefile fails

2008-07-10 Thread Michael Kluge
Hi all, there is a problem building claws-mail which is included as version 3.3 in the openembedded path. I have the latest copy of the Mokomakefile development environment as well as the toolchain (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain) installed. Running "make build-package-claws-mail" fa

Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile

2008-07-10 Thread saurabh gupta
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Shawn Thompson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been wanting to test out the UI that is shown on the wiki and software > reviews around the net. Upon building (make qemu) and letting it complete I > got a very different UI that what I expected. Here's a couple of

Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile

2008-07-10 Thread Shawn Thompson
make qemu On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:44 AM, David Samblas Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what make instruction did you use? > > It begins like the ASU image file but as you notice I have no seen this > initial screen before. > > > --- El jue, 10/7/08, Shawn Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > es

Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile

2008-07-10 Thread David Samblas Martinez
what make instruction did you use? It begins like the ASU image file but as you notice I have no seen this initial screen before. --- El jue, 10/7/08, Shawn Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > De: Shawn Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Asunto: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile > Para: "OM-

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