New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-18 Thread abatrour
Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now. http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-2008.12-Release-tp1676811p1676811.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __

Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

2008-12-18 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/12/19 Robin Paulson : >>> Is there an easy way of porting a Debian package to the opkg format? > extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? or is mixing repositories

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Andreas Pokorny
Hello, 2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler : > here is where i'd disagree. i can walk down my street in sydney - 100% of wifi > spots are locked (wep/wpa etc.) - no one opens them. yopur choice is "spotty" > wifi hotspots you have to pay for. [...] I experience the very same situation here

Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-18 Thread Filip Onkelinx
Hi Jos, could it be that your root-filesystem was not unmounted cleanly ? At first boot, system will do a FS-check followed by a reboot. Reboot wil use the default, being your Qt from flash? F!L!P. On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:53:43 +0100, Jos vd Snepscheut wrote: > Hello, > > I have been ins

Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

2008-12-18 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/12/19 Robin Paulson : > 2008/12/19 john dowd : >> Is there an easy way of porting a Debian package to the opkg format? > if you really wanted to, there's no reason why the twinkle files > couldn't be re-packed as an opk, which i assume is also an archive of > sorts? > http://handhelds.org/mo

Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

2008-12-18 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/12/19 john dowd : > Is there an easy way of porting a Debian package to the opkg format? if you don't mind getting your hands a bit dirty, all you need to do is unpack the deb - it's some sort of compressed archive - and put the files in the correct location on your freerunner i've done this

Wifi - wep or wpa enabled

2008-12-18 Thread Rodney Myers
Default install. Does the wifi work only with wpa? or does it also work with wep? My internal wifi is wep enabled only, and I cannot get the phone to recognize the key. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.op

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:10:59 +0900, "W.Kenworthy" wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 12:24 +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote: >> As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a > whish-list, I >> will put my 2ct here also: >> >> - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture w

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-18 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 17. Dezember 2008 schrieb Esben Stien: > Steve Mosher writes: > > > If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a > > program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise > > your hand, drop me a mail. > > I've talked to a local electronics repair shop her

[framework] pymixer updated to fso_mixer

2008-12-18 Thread Angus Ainslie
I've updated pymixer.py to use the FSO framework. It should automatically detect scenario changes and update the mixers now. http://handheldshell.com/fsomixer.py http://handheldshell.com/volume_fso.desktop put fsomixer.py into /usr bin and chmod +x it volume_fso.desktop goes into /usr/share/appli

Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

2008-12-18 Thread Harald "Zophon" Zophoniasson
2008/12/19 Thomas White > OpenMooCow 0.3 is now available: > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ > > Changes since version 0.2 are: > > - My finest "programmer art" has been banished to a suitable place, > namely the fiery d

OpenMooCow 0.3

2008-12-18 Thread Thomas White
OpenMooCow 0.3 is now available: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ Changes since version 0.2 are: - My finest "programmer art" has been banished to a suitable place, namely the fiery depths of Hades. It's been replaced with some much better graphics from openclipart.org. It's

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 12:24 +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote: > As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, > I > will put my 2ct here also: > > - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile > phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real ca

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Peter Abplanalp wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> >> | kernel - 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 >> | >

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:00:05 +1100 (EST) "NeilBrown" babbled: > On Fri, December 19, 2008 9:34 am, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > > 2g is charged by the kb at insane rates. ($1.65/mb is three's going rate > > for 2g > > data - whereas their 3g data rates are more like $0.0068/mb. now you know >

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread NeilBrown
On Fri, December 19, 2008 9:34 am, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > 2g is charged by the kb at insane rates. ($1.65/mb is three's going rate > for 2g > data - whereas their 3g data rates are more like $0.0068/mb. now you know > why > 3g is so important? 2g data is 241 TIMES more expensive than 3g. and

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Dec 2008, at 18:50, Sargun Dhillon wrote: > Most Linux users, or most users that this device is aimed at are > intelligent enough ... Clearly you weren't about reading the many, MANY support posts at the time of the Freerunner's release. At that time questions on this subject would be p

debian on freerunner

2008-12-18 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Hello, I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh I use Qi latest by Andy on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin did this all by following the debian wikki aft

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote: > |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > |> Hash: SHA1 > |> > |> Somebody in the thread at so

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote: |> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> |> | kernel - 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239df

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | kernel - 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 > | > | /proc/version is: > | > | Linux version 2.6.24 (s...@builder) (

Re: [FSO] GPRS Problems LCP TermReq

2008-12-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Please post the full log, not a truncated one. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [FSO] How to make a beep in C++/Qt

2008-12-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Beep-commands only work on terminals that support this feature. In FSO, you can easily play a sound with the org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PlaySound() interface. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.open

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Depending on your distribution, that should be a one-liner in the rules. See how we blink the red power led on critical status and add an AudioActoin there. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | kernel - 2.6.24+r10.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958-r10.1 | | /proc/version is: | | Linux version 2.6.24 (s...@builder) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Fri | Oct 17 17:20:36 UTC 2008 Yow it's

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> | I tried twice, and had it both times. I had some other issues with om, |> | so I flashed back to shr. I've got A6 I believe, how to check that? |> |> cat /proc/cpuinfo should mention "Revision" as 0x35

[FDOM] Noob questions on FDOM

2008-12-18 Thread B
So I had 2008.8 loaded and ran the FDOMizer script. It seemed to work fine, and the phone boots fine. But I do have a few questions. - On boot, the GUI is enlightenment. The wiki lists FDOM as a 'finger friendly' distro, but enlightenment is pretty much stylus only. Is this normal for FDOM?

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Peter Abplanalp wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Andy Green wrote: >> Second, WSOD from resume is a bit ambiguous since it can be a more >> generic resume failure on 2.6.24. If you disable resume and just let it >> do framebuffer blanking for a while, do

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Micha? Brzozowski
Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Andy Green wrote: > |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: > |> > |> | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It > seems > |> | to resume, which is nice, but after suspending and resuming once, > ther

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/12/18 Justyn Butler : > 2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler : >> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:08:09 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" >> babbled: >> >> i'm taking usage pattern into account - and when i'm @ wifi.. i also have a >> keyboard, screen and "real machine" to use... so if i want to c

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Justyn Butler
2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler : > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:08:09 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" > babbled: > > i'm taking usage pattern into account - and when i'm @ wifi.. i also have a > keyboard, screen and "real machine" to use... so if i want to check > something/google for it or

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:52:51 +0100 Helge Hafting babbled: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti > > babbled: > > > >> As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a > >> whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: > >> >

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:08:09 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" babbled: i'm taking usage pattern into account - and when i'm @ wifi.. i also have a keyboard, screen and "real machine" to use... so if i want to check something/google for it or whatever - i use something more comfortable. when i'm w

[debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Jerram
I noticed that there are now e17 packages in debian unstable, and that these include -dbg packages. Since my current e17 (from the enlightenment-all-in-one deb that someone put together) always SEGV's on startup, and since Raster has asked for backtrace with symbols when that happens, I thought I'

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:16:32 -0500 Joel Newkirk wrote: > I disagree - I've been a vocal proponent for many months of "tidying > up" networking, including setting IP and subnet to something less > likely to lead to conflicts. Yes, I agree that the vast majority of > people using a FreeRunner as I

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> |> | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It seems |> | to resume, which is nice, but after suspending and resuming

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Joel Newkirk
I disagree - I've been a vocal proponent for many months of "tidying up" networking, including setting IP and subnet to something less likely to lead to conflicts. Yes, I agree that the vast majority of people using a FreeRunner as I type this are quite capable of performing the changes you mentio

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Micha? Brzozowski
Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It seems > | to resume, which is nice, but after suspending and resuming once, there > | is noise on the screen, the bad TV antenna sort. Subsequent > | suspends/resum

Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

2008-12-18 Thread Erland Lewin
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Simon Kagstrom > wrote: > [...] > > So: Do any of the > > distributions allow easy use of bluetooth headsets? Are there active > > projects working on this? > I'd be really interested in hearing reports about how well the Freerunner works in real life with Bl

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It seems | to resume, which is nice, but after suspending and resuming once, there | is noise on the screen, the bad TV antenna sort. Subsequen

Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

2008-12-18 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Simon Kagstrom wrote: > Hi! > > Everybody has their own reasons for using or not using the Freerunner > as their daily phone. I've so far used it mostly as a toy (fun one at > that) because I miss one feature: An easy GUI setup method for > bluetooth headsets (A2DP

Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

2008-12-18 Thread Simon Kagstrom
Hi! Everybody has their own reasons for using or not using the Freerunner as their daily phone. I've so far used it mostly as a toy (fun one at that) because I miss one feature: An easy GUI setup method for bluetooth headsets (A2DP would be quite nice too). I've simply grown used to being able to

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Micha? Brzozowski
Andy Green wrote: > | I suggest you compile the kernel as well as relevant modules > | yourself. Or ask Andy to update his private directory. :) > > I am sitting on another update to power management stuff from Ben Dooks > locally the last week until I can confirm it didn't do to GTA02 resume > wha

Re: OpenVibe is out

2008-12-18 Thread Carlo Minucci
Peter Stumm ha scritto: > hi, > where can i find the source code, > i want to start programming with enlightenment and need a little > example. for example you can read this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Python#Minimal_ETK_gui+ and this for documentation http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/EFL_Documen

Re: OpenVibe is out

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Stumm
hi, where can i find the source code, i want to start programming with enlightenment and need a little example. liebe grüße peter Am Mittwoch, den 17.12.2008, 12:08 +0100 schrieb Carlo Minucci: > Pander ha scritto: > > Carlo, nice application. If anyone is interested, I have an open source > > M

Re: Navit add destination

2008-12-18 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:13:07 + Samuel Pereira (SP) wrote: >Hi, > >Can you add any destination on navit? > >Thanks, >Samuel With the new version: click anywhere you want to go to on the map, this will bring up menu, choose Actions and then you will see the coordinates of the selected point.

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/12/19 Sargun Dhillon : > 6.5 billion people in the world. Stop yer whining. i think you shouldn't be so dismissive to someone who, rather than whining, put his point forward in a constructive way. this was hardly your average ill-directed rant from someone who doesn't understand the situation

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Sargun Dhillon
The OpenMoko FreeRunner was never aimed at end users. It's always been aimed at developers, and if you don't know how to set routes do a man "ip" or "ip help." There are a fair chunk of those developers who don't have the IP overlap issue. I'd say there are maybe 1000 active freerunner users, and m

Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Joseph Reeves" writes: > have to do then is get Debian to work on my openmoko ;-) Just install debian to chroot if you don't want to replace your current distro completely. http://iki.fi/lindi/schroot.txt has instructions on how to make this more or less transparent to use (instructions for x86

Navit add destination

2008-12-18 Thread Samuel Pereira
Hi, Can you add any destination on navit? Thanks, Samuel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 18.12.2008 um 19:50 schrieb Sargun Dhillon: > Most Linux users, or most users that this device is aimed at are > intelligent enough to do a > "ip addr add 192.168.0.200/32 dev usb0" > "ip route add 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0" > This will only make two addresses on your network inaccessible. The

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Sargun Dhillon
Most Linux users, or most users that this device is aimed at are intelligent enough to do a "ip addr add 192.168.0.200/32 dev usb0" "ip route add 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0" This will only make two addresses on your network inaccessible. Then you can SSH into it, and change the IP address. This take

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster
edit: yes, the battery life sucks at the testing image (on 2008.9 i had 40 hours, which is not great, but since i come at least every second day, this was not a problem) --- Begin Message --- Gothnet schrieb: Olivier Migeot wrote: Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still wor

Re: [Android] Can't boot from current git

2008-12-18 Thread Jim Ancona
Radek Polak wrote: > Hi, > yesterday i updated and built latest adnroid sources from > http://git.koolu.org/. While the previous versions were working fine, > this one does not boot. It hangs somewhere in init. These are last lines > i see: > > init: cannot find '/system/bin/playmp3', disabling

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster
Gothnet schrieb: > > Olivier Migeot wrote: > >> Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still working on >> their product some months after it's been released. Granted, the first >> release was nowhere near astounding. But in closed world developement, >> who could claim such dedication

Re: [2008.testing] Re: alsa problem after resume

2008-12-18 Thread Fox Mulder
Try to just stop the speech-dispatcher service running all the time and just start/end it with navit. This should also solve the problem but you still got text2speech capabilities. :) Ciao, Rainer W.Kenworthy wrote: > Solution: removed speech dispatcher from running and rebooted. > > Will

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread Gothnet
Olivier Migeot wrote: > > Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still working on > their product some months after it's been released. Granted, the first > release was nowhere near astounding. But in closed world developement, > who could claim such dedication? ;) > In a closed wo

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread t m
> > > I opted for the G1, partly for the reasons you've given, but mainly because > it turned out to be available as a free upgrade from my old handset. I can't > say I'm terribly happy with it. I haven't had my hands on a Freerunner yet > for comparison, but depending upon what you want to do with

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, "Peter Abplanalp" writes: > can you also please point me to somewhere that tells me about > how to use andy-tracking instead of stock and what things might be > broken due to the /sys filesystem changes. Basically you can try to use andy-tracking with FSO ms4 with a quick-and-dirty patch fro

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
One word. zeroconf Oh, it is two words zeroconf and bonjour www.zeroconf.org/ PS: As fallback for DHCP of course. Esben Stien wrote: > Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? > > This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in > the world and of course this means probl

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread flamma
> Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a > link-local address? > * Pick a random address > * check that it is free (arp, ping,...) > * take it. > > That has a good chance of working, even for those who > routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time. >

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Carlo Minucci
Giorgio Marci ha scritto: > In Italy most of the home user routers have 192.168.0.* by default. in italy most are 192.168.1.* :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
In Italy most of the home user routers have 192.168.0.* by default. - Original Message - From: fla...@correo.ugr.es To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Subject: Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:20:35 +0100 (CET) > IME 192.168.1.

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Andy Green wrote > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | i'm not sure how to turn on framebuffer blanking but i will do some > | research and use that for a bit and report back; however, i have used > | other distros where frameblanking was the norm and

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien > wrote: > >> Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? >> >> This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in >> the world and of course this means problems. > > 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more a

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti > babbled: > >> As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, >> I will put my 2ct here also: >> >> - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread flamma
>> > Nearly every network I know uses 192.168.1.*, so the default is >> perfectly >> > fine... Although something like 192.168.64.* could be statistically >> more >> > failsafe. >> >> Actually in that case I would avoid all powers of two. A higher prime >> number, like 97, might be a good choice..

Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks Timo, I'm wanting to install gnue-forms on my phone for some database work. When I didn't have mxdate time installed at all, I would run the gnue-forms installation script and it would complain, predictably, that I hadn't met the requirements. I apt-get installed it onto my ubuntu laptop a

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:59:25PM +0100, Pander wrote: > On Thu, December 18, 2008 13:15, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > ... > > OTOH, loose one, loose all... > > That is where online backups to servers and address book and calendar > synchronisation with your laptop/dekstop are for. Do they g

Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

2008-12-18 Thread john dowd
Well, I flashed my Neo with the Om2008.9-gta02-20081106 image and jffs2 file system and I have a phone that boots once again. In fact I have it fully functional with my original target of an automatic wifi connection using WPA2 encryption to my Access Point. I'm running a laptop with hostapd and a

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Marcel
Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:14:06 schrieb Andreas Fischer: > Marcel wrote: > > Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: > >> Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? > >> > >> This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in > >> the world and of course

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread flamma
> IME 192.168.1.* is the *second* most common address range for private > networks. I think in Spain nearly all ISP, distribute their routers for home users with the 192.168.1.* default. Until the Freerunner, I had never seen a 192.168.0.* network (or I don't remember). I suppose it's part of th

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien wrote: > Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? > > This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in > the world and of course this means problems. 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is assigne

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i'm not sure how to turn on framebuffer blanking but i will do some | research and use that for a bit and report back; however, i have used | other distros where frameblanking was the norm and never had wso

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Andreas Fischer
Marcel wrote: > Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: >> Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? >> >> This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in >> the world and of course this means problems. Well... no - with a sane routing configuration that s

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Marcel wrote: > Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: >> Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? >> >> This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in >> the world and of course this means problems. >> ... > > Nearly every ne

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Dec 2008, at 15:46, Esben Stien wrote: > Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? > > This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in > the world and of course this means problems. +1 Stroller ___ Openmoko community mail

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Marcel
Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: > Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? > > This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in > the world and of course this means problems. > > If your network is configured with this IP range and you pop a > freer

Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Esben Stien
Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. If your network is configured with this IP range and you pop a freerunner in, it of course cause a world of pain. Please choose a more sen

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
Thanks very much for your explaination.. very useful. The last curiosity...is there a place to find a schema of what I change if i change alsamixer values? i mean, what is the value to change in order to increase the caller's voice? - Original Message - From: "Al Johnson" To: commu

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
thanks for the help, andy. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Andy Green wrote: > Well, first confirm with cat /proc/version that you're running what you > think you're running. r...@om-gta02:~# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.24 (bu...@barbie) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Tue Dec 16 09:01:0

Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound

2008-12-18 Thread bubak
Hi, just want to add another confirmation that this works for me. I have image of SHR from 2008-12-09 intalled on my neo. Thanks a lot Leonti wrote: > > I tried it and it's working great! > Thanks. > > Leonti > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Carl Lobo wrote: >> the echo of the other pe

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I think this discussion does not get my original point, which does take the useage pattern into account. When I am at work, at University, at home, visiting friends, I always have an open WiFi. In most of these locations I also have HSDPA. At my parents, mother-in-law's location or in holidays

[shr] blackout/suspend inhibit

2008-12-18 Thread Petr Vanek
Hi, perhaps i am not searching properly - is there a way to dynamically inhibit blackout/suspend somehow? I would like to trigger it for certain programs like navit or in case power is connected. i am note sure whether kernel version would be in question then - i use both andy-tracking and testing

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Pander wrote: > hotpots in the world: > http://maps.fon.com/ > this map is faked cause a node is added once you entered your coord in order to receive one router. No matter if you move between, or if you never plug it on... I agree to Raster... Even if there is

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-18 Thread clare johnstone
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Didier Raboud wrote: >> Marcus Bauer wrote: >>> fully in the spirit of "release early, release often" we want to > * This is not a judgment of quality of the given distribution. > * I don't think that multiplying the _distributions_ is doing any good to > the Ope

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Al Johnson
I'm not certain on QTExtended, but /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ is the usual location on most of the distros. You can use any filename you like, but the applications will only use the filenames they expect. I don't know if these are configurable or hardcoded in QTExtended. The names should be

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread kenneth marken
Justyn Butler wrote: > 2008/12/18 Michael Zanetti : > >> As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, >> I >> will put my 2ct here also: >> >> - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile >> phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Pander
On Thu, December 18, 2008 13:15, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: ... > OTOH, loose one, loose all... That is where online backups to servers and address book and calendar synchronisation with your laptop/dekstop are for. > > Rui > > -- > > Today is Boomtime, the 60th day of The Aftermath in the YO

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
Where are stored these files? there is a specific file state to store or can i store any file in any directory? and if yes, how can i set alsa to use that particular file? thanks - Original Message - From: "Al Johnson" To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [QTExtended] ca

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Will Siddall
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:02 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler wrote: > a 3g modem/module/chipset is REALLY expensive. especially if you have low > volume (that means less than a few hundred thousand units). you pay a small > fortune in royalties too. It is true, 3G is expensive and for most pra

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Oh, good luck with GTA03 resume then. Resume never was easy :) Linus loves it too ''Now, suspend/resume debugging is some of the nastiest crud around...'' http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/12/debu

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:00:14PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:52:20 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > babbled: > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:38:27PM +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote: > > > On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:29:08 you wrote: > > > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-18 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:51:13 +0100 Sascha Wessel wrote: > why do we need another distribution? The better solution would be to > include the packages into debian, isn't it? This way everyone > benefits. Technically it is not really another distribution. It is the port of the GTK phone and PIM sui

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:24:52 pm Michael Zanetti wrote: > - Please don't add a camera Or make it optional, I have friends who are are now working in a building where cameras are forbidden (a car company) and so will have to discard their iPhones and Apple laptops for precisely this reason.. che

Re: Answer from Joerg (was: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL)

2008-12-18 Thread Vasco Névoa
I did the big-c buzzing rework myself, with the precious help of a much more smd-experienced colleague. It was very difficult to replace the resistor because of the proximity of the components around the mic. A very sharp soldering iron is critical. I used a 1k resistor (didn't have a 2k2 of

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:00:34 +, Al Johnson > > wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: > >> I don't know what the physical > >> difference is for the power tweak. (V6 can power up from wall power > > > > without > > > >>

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:52:20 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra babbled: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:38:27PM +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote: > > On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:29:08 you wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti > > > babbled: > > > i have. and millions of japanes

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Giorgio Marci wrote: > I adjust the volume on QTExt 4.4.2 using alsamixer and then i'd like to > store its state, but the command > > alsactl -f path_to_file.state store > > doesn't seem to work and, after that i make or receive a call, the state > returns to default!

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Having a hackable "eye" on the Neo will open a lot of new posibilities, multiply this posibilities with gps*wifi*accelerometers* 2008/12/18 Pander : > Sony Ericsson has very good camera's in their phone but this will cost > indeed a lot in the range (production number) of Neo. I've noticed tha

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