Re: Dialup On Demand (was: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues)

2009-01-31 Thread Neil Brown
On Saturday January 31, freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: > > What about (which I expect will not be a candidate for an 'official' > solution;) > > get frameworkd talking to ip_queue or netlink. For example, we could: > > Create a lowest-priority default route that hits lo, like: > route add default

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-01-31 Thread Steve Mosher
Let me give you a ROUGH timeline. Feb 2-9: final alsa states for A7 are developed and tested and signed off. Feb 9-16: Phones at the factory are flashed. Feb 16-23: Ship to Disty. Those are not official dates agreed to by everyone working the issue, but I suspect they are close. When wil

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-01-31 Thread Steve Mosher
GTA02v7 is going into production in a very short period of time. The Alsa states will need some adjustments. We dont want to fix the buzz and then tell people they have to tweak their alsa states as the first course of business. Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > The .pdf says this hardware fix tra

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-01-31 Thread Steve Mosher
Torsten, There is no proceedure defined by OM for how the non DIY guys can fix their Phones. Let me recap exactly where we are. We have a SOP for people who want to do it by themselves or for others, but there are several other elements missing from the process that would allow us to help

Re: [SHR] XGlamo 240x320 no longer works

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Sheldon
Michael Sheldon wrote: > However with both the testing and stable SHR images XGlamo no longer > seems to be able to switch to 240x320, Sorry, I meant with both testing and *unstable* images. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmok

[SHR] XGlamo 240x320 no longer works

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Sheldon
Hi all, I'm attempting to get a little 3D game development system (based on the Irrlicht engine) that I wrote a while back working on the Freerunner; it has a reasonably fast software renderer so doesn't need to wait for any future OpenGL support. At 480x640 I get 2-3 frames per second with

Re: No Sound on calls

2009-01-31 Thread Ali
This happened to me using the latest andy tracking kernel uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking_2763b78dd365a140.bin on Debian. Also the phone would attempt to suspend but fail. After I switched back to the second latest one all was well. On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 13:36 +0100, Eildert Groeneveld wrote

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
> The one thing I find absent in every design is a plain old phone keypad. > Maybe a slider design to pull it out from underneath or such like. probably not what om likes -- but consider buying an unlocked g1 (android). with the android sources available virtually every distribution available

Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-01-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:16:57 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:31:43 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said: > >> But I think a dictionary format in plain utf8 that includes the > >> normalised words as well as any

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
Looking at this thread and thinking about buying a phone(frankly am fed up with the one I have atm). I think I'll wait for a GTA03... From reading the wiki[1,2] pages it seems it'll get a lot of new hardware in it and that the requirement for that seems to also be fully Free hardware. Atleast base

nanddump

2009-01-31 Thread Chris Syntichakis
Hi, I used the nanddump in order to make a backup of my rootfs. As I see it produced a 256MB file on my uSD card. (and the dump time was very quick indeed). I suppose that I can use this file with the nandwrite in the future? I mean if this way of backup the rootfs is reliable chris -- V

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Hendrik Siedelmann
2009/1/31 arne anka : >> 1st) Battery Power >> ... >> So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university, >> would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery >> power after 10 hours? > > > not with the scenario you describe -- but otoh: which phone does?

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread roguemoko
Tschaka wrote: > Long story short, i don't want to get disappointed buying a neo. I mean, > fancy features, software and such is nice to have, but if fundamental things > won't work (acceptable), I and many others won't support Openmoko on the > long term, means replacing the Neo with a later relea

Re: Qt Extended update ?

2009-01-31 Thread Joerg Lippmann
Am Montag 26 Januar 2009 schrieb HouYu Li: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Chris Samuel wrote: > > Does anyone know if there's any updates for Qt Extended in the pipeline ? > I am looking forward to it. Does the silence here mean that no one here is working on QtE or that no one can/wants

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
> Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry well, i certainly doubt that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Setting up MPD

2009-01-31 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Installed the package (I think I was on Arch at the time, maybe Debian) and started with initscript. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
> Ya, atm i am using a sony ericsson k800i, so just an ordinary phone. it's > handling my needs very well, when it comes down to battery power. i only > got > to charge the battery every 3 or 4 days. to make things clear: i don't > listen to music all day, only on the go, so maximum 2 hours a day

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Johny Tenfinger
> Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry I'm not OM developer (hmm, ok, developing is my hobby), but I'm using FreeRunner in daily use... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmok

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread bytestore
hope in chum openmoko is philosofy, this device not for end user! if you developer or ingeneer you must buy this phone if you want all in one (iphone) buy iphone or blackberry Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry sorry for my english :( -- View this message in

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Tschaka, > 4) GTA03? > Or would u rather advise me to wait for GTA03? No, definitely not. First of all GTA03 is still a long way out, at least 6 months, maybe 9, maybe more. But more importantly, at Openmoko you cannot assume that GTA03 = GTA02 + new hardware features. When Sean started the p

Re: Setting up MPD

2009-01-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Ahh, just when I want a media player, the last thing I usually want to do is > edit conf files. The only thing that should need specifying in this file should be the directory where the songs are kept. What else did you have to edit? > Then, I had to find a client, and perhaps I got a bad one

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Tschaka
arne anka wrote: > >> 1st) Battery Power >> ... >> So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university, >> would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery >> power after 10 hours? > > > not with the scenario you describe -- but otoh: which phone doe

Re: About the buzz

2009-01-31 Thread Alexandre Ghisoli
Le Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:00 -0200, Pablo Miño a écrit : > Community, > > There is something I do not understand about the buzz. I have 2 chips > one for my old carrier and one for my new carrier, they are > respectively Claro Uruguay and Antel. With the Claro chip the other > person does not li

gsm digital voice path

2009-01-31 Thread Yusuf X
Hello, is it possible that the GTA03 will have a digital voice path that the CPU can programmatically peek and poke? >From the GTA02 EE schematics, it seems that voice would need to be converted to analog before being given to the GSM module; the GTA03 apparently uses the MC75i which has a digital

Sephora 0.2 available

2009-01-31 Thread Michele Renda
Hello to all. When I choose the name Sephora, I never thought this name was a female name. So, now, after "she" let us to wait as only a girl can do, I am happy to show to the world Sephora 0.2-0. The first news, that I thing will interess to none, it that now the source are available under De

About the buzz

2009-01-31 Thread Pablo Miño
Community, There is something I do not understand about the buzz. I have 2 chips one for my old carrier and one for my new carrier, they are respectively Claro Uruguay and Antel. With the Claro chip the other person does not listens to the annoying buzz but with the Ancel chip she does. Why could

Re: Freerunner is running OpenWrt!

2009-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Michael, > That's the way buildroot works. > >> I'd say take it to the kernel list and ask Andy. > > No. We're not going to change the way openwrt works. OK understood (and I never asked for that, BTW, I was just curious to understand why you went this route). The good news is that the kernel i

Re: Freerunner is running OpenWrt!

2009-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Michael, > No we take vanilla 2.6.28 and apply the diff between 2.6.28 and andy- > tracking. > We can also apply additional patches, but we don't for now. hmm. Andy is the expert here, maybe you ask him over on the kernel list. Why pin it to an old andy-tracking version, and then manually base i

Re: www.opkg.org - Repository Alpha

2009-01-31 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I wrote another review of opkg.org software, see http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/opkgorg-software-review-part-2/ I've excluded those that a) have been reviewed earlier b) are missing information (author, source link etc) c) are not GPL c) don't install icon/dont run from the menu comments? r -- |

Re: [debian] zhone not working

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
> hi thank you, but i dont start zhone from .xsession. i start it by hand > later. can you please describe in more detail how your system is set up and how you do start zhone? i can't really imagine what happens on your side. ___ Openmoko community ma

Re: [debian] zhone not working

2009-01-31 Thread vale
Christopher J. White wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 04:28 -0800, vale wrote: >> hm now zhone starts fullscreen and i cant change back to the xfce >> desktop. is >> there some trick ? if i choose to exit zhone from zhone menu, it also >> kills >> x11 and shuts down debian :( > > It sounds lik

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Michele Renda
On 31/01/2009 15:49, arne anka wrote: > who knows? there's no realiable timeframe for when gta03 may be available, > afair. > maybe, when you give some hints to your location, someone owning an fr > already might make him/herself available to show the fr in the flesh and > demonstrate your scenario

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi Tschaka! On Saturday 31 January 2009 15:11:58 Tschaka wrote: > 1st) Battery Power > > sometimes i'm at university from 9am to 10pm 6 days a week. I'm often > browsing mobile news pages with my phone when going to university, or > having a chat (XMPP of course!), approx 40 minutes a day. In the

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread arne anka
> 1st) Battery Power > ... > So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university, > would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery > power after 10 hours? not with the scenario you describe -- but otoh: which phone does? your power consumption seems

Re: I took the plunge

2009-01-31 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 1/31/09 Stroller wrote: > On 31 Jan 2009, at 07:30, Steve 'dillo Okay wrote: > > > > I picked up a Neo Freerunner & dev board today from the good folks > > > over @ PariSOMA here in SF today. > > > It was a little disappointing that the dev board came in a > recyclable > > > paperboard box in

Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-01-31 Thread Tschaka
So, again somebody is asking a question about usabilty. Please don't get me wrong, i actually browsed the mailing lists and wikis, but still there are some unsure things, and i'd like to have a bit more of a summarization. I'm interested in buying an openmoko Neo Freerunner, but i'd like to get t

Re: I took the plunge

2009-01-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 Jan 2009, at 07:30, Steve 'dillo Okay wrote: > I picked up a Neo Freerunner & dev board today from the good folks > over @ PariSOMA here in SF today. > It was a little disappointing that the dev board came in a recyclable > paperboard box instead of the hardsided case. > Do they just not sh

Re: [debian] zhone not working

2009-01-31 Thread Christopher J. White
On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 04:28 -0800, vale wrote: > hm now zhone starts fullscreen and i cant change back to the xfce desktop. is > there some trick ? if i choose to exit zhone from zhone menu, it also kills > x11 and shuts down debian :( It sounds like zhone is started as the last thing in your ~/.x

No Sound on calls

2009-01-31 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
dear List as of lately, the FR has no sound when making phone calls which may be considered a slight disadvantage. Wenn called the FR rings nicely but then everything is dead: no sound. Likewise, when calling someone, nothing can be heard, not the ringing and after the connection is established a

Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 30 January 2009, Al Johnson wrote: > On Friday 30 January 2009, Joel Newkirk wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:31:21 +, Al Johnson > > > > wrote: > > > On Friday 30 January 2009, Joel Newkirk wrote: > > >> Any idea where I can find python-pyalsaaudio? not found on SHR, can't > > > >

Re: [debian] zhone not working

2009-01-31 Thread vale
hm now zhone starts fullscreen and i cant change back to the xfce desktop. is there some trick ? if i choose to exit zhone from zhone menu, it also kills x11 and shuts down debian :( some time ago i could start zhone but keep the xfce panel open and change to desktop or other programs and also ki

Re: [debian] zhone not working

2009-01-31 Thread vale
Thank you it works now :) i think i hadn't updated for too long. Now i'm happy again with debian & zhone :) have a nice weekend vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--zhone-not-working-tp2210515p2249677.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at

Re: Sephora not working any longer?

2009-01-31 Thread vale
Michele Renda wrote: > > Hello... I think a lot of time you read this: work, real life, > wife/girlfriend etc. > > I really apologize for delay. In this moment I am at work. At 18.00 > (GTM+2), I will be at home, and I will complete to package it until > tomorrow! > > I wish you a very goo

Buzz hardware fix in the Netherlands/Belgium (perhaps at FOSDEM)

2009-01-31 Thread Pander
Hi all, Anyone in the Netherlands or Belgium that as applied the buzz hardware fix? Anyone in the Netherlands or Belgium planning to apply the buzz hardware fix and is interested in doing this collectively? Perhaps on the 6th, 7th or 8th because of FOSDEM at an electronics lab/shop/club in Bruss

Re: Dialup On Demand (was: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues)

2009-01-31 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:34:42 +1100 (EST), "NeilBrown" wrote: > On Sat, January 31, 2009 2:55 am, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> Ok cool, but how does this work internally? We want the framework to be >> notified, not the ppp process (which we don't want to run all the time) > > On demand networ

Re: Freerunner is running OpenWrt!

2009-01-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | It's very interesting. Will it act as a wireless access point? Nope. AR6000 doesn't support master mode. But it's still interesting, well done to the people who worked on it. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGN