Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed

2009-04-17 Thread blokkie
Greetings earthlings Some errors I collected from upgrading the om2009 testing image , maybe it's usefull for later images ? Error : Upgrading paroli on root from 0.2.1+gitr91+ba44a8738f444f6ca3ff42a4173d9178e4202b04-r9 to 0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11...

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-17 Thread Petr Vanek
A new version is available that fixes the issue with incoming phonenumbers being parsed wrong (was a typo of me): http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090416.tgz . The new list with bugs is now at: http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qt-issues.txt Hi Franky, thanks for all the great work! i

Re: [QtExtended] how to import contacts

2009-04-17 Thread Petr Vanek
Hi all, I'm running qtextended improved as explained by Franky in the post [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7; I need to import my contacts (from vcf formats) in order to use it as a daily phone and to make some test. I'm trying to use the addressbook command as i have

Re: eBay SIM card - More than one phone number?

2009-04-17 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 17. April 2009 schrieb Pablo Miño: Dear friends, I saw in eBay a 6-in-1 SIM card, they say that it can store up to 6 SIM in the chip. Is it possible to have 6 active phone numbers in one device using this card? Some how you should transfer each SIM information to this special card.

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-17 Thread Sascha Gering
Petr Vanek schrieb: A new version is available that fixes the issue with incoming phonenumbers being parsed wrong (was a typo of me): http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090416.tgz . The new list with bugs is now at: http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qt-issues.txt Hi Franky, Hi List,

RE: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-17 Thread Roland
Hi Franky, A new version is available that fixes the issue with incoming phonenumbers being parsed wrong (was a typo of me): http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090416.tgz . I installed it yesterday, the phone number bug is indeed gone now. Great response time! Roland

Re: (FYP) No input method?

2009-04-17 Thread clare johnstone
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote: I loaded FYP on my Freerunner, and I am rather impressed with what I saw. Hi Paul, Yes, it is very interesting; It has inspired me to start a webpage where I am putting some help files for simple-minded folk like myself. I hope to

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-17 Thread Helge Hafting
joa...@verona.se wrote: I once modified a laptop by removing the backlighting from the screen. That made it possible to read the screen by using the sun as a backlight source. Maybe something similar can be done to the Freerunner? A laptop display is hinged, the FR display is not. Now, you

[Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Thomas Bellembois
Hello Freerunners, I have been using a Freerunner under Debian for one month. It is not yet fully usable, but I am still working on it. 1.GSM Zhone works not too bad. I have applied the patch to use a VCARD file but the dial button does not work anymore (it works with contacts on the SIM

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-17 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi, On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Sascha Gering ha...@gmx.li wrote: Petr Vanek schrieb: A new version is available that fixes the issue with incoming phonenumbers being parsed wrong (was a typo of me): http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090416.tgz . The new list with bugs is

16th community update released

2009-04-17 Thread sushama
Dear All, The 16th community update has been released. There has been lot more activity these weeks with the news of future release schedule and feature list of Om2009,Kernel milestone list for a stable kernel,new mailing list for GTA03 ideas and much more. Read on.

Re: [QtExtended] how to import contacts

2009-04-17 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Hi all, I'm running qtextended improved as explained by Franky in the post [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7; I need to import my contacts (from vcf formats) in order to use it as a daily phone and to

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-17 Thread Filip Onkelinx
Hi all, I know boot speed and resume speed is influenced by kernel boot parameters: the more kernel/debug messages displayed (on rather slow framebuffer), the slower the device will boot/resume. Might want to compare boot params (cat /proc/cmdline , look for loglevel= and console= ) F. On

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-17 Thread Sascha Gering
Hi Filip, Here is my output: r...@muhko:~# cat /proc/cmdline loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(qi),0x0004(depr-ub-env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(depr),0x0004(identity-ext2),0x0f6a(rootfs)

Re: (FYP) No input method?

2009-04-17 Thread rakshat hooja
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote: Unfortunately I cannot find a keyboard in it (I loaded release 3.01 on it). Someone have a good idea for this? Paul Try pressing the AUX button Rakshat ___ Openmoko community

Re: (FYP) No input method?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul
Try pressing the AUX button WOOT! That is where it is hiding!! Thanks! -- To solve big problems you have to be willing to do unpopular things. -Lee Iacocca http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 8.10, EasyPeasy 1.1rc2 (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!)

Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed

2009-04-17 Thread blokkie
Joseph Reeves schreef: Known bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271 pkill paroli pkill frameworkd opkg update opkg upgrade fixes it. Joseph Great ! thx , When I first booted it had another error about not beeing able to start namend or something . Is that also a

Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
I've not seen that one. Have a search and report if it's new ;) https://docs.openmoko.org/trac Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/17 blokkie blok...@h0m3.be: Joseph Reeves schreef: Known bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271 pkill paroli pkill frameworkd opkg update opkg upgrade fixes

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Christophe Badoit
Thomas Bellembois a écrit : Hi Thomas, 1.GSM 2.PIM Not stable enough to use as daily phone, so I didn't test zhone others fully enough to comment. Anyway, thank you for these comments, i'd love to use it eventually ! 3.GPS TangoGPS works well. I have not tried Navit yet. Same here. I

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Christophe Badoit
Christophe Badoit a écrit : 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO. No auto-rotate, just a rotate application that I launch from the menu. Sometimes works, sometimes not. I hade to put Sorry, I didn't finished the line :) I had to put Xft.dpi: 96 in

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Pierre Pronchery
Hey Thomas, Thomas Bellembois wrote: I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers. You might want to try hackable:1, which is really Debian with Om2007 telephony software:

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Pierre Pronchery
Hey Bram, Bram Neijt wrote: When I tried hackable:1 it did not contain a dialer and had no basic phone functionality, but I will be giving it another try in the near future. That's strange, all of our stable releases have always included the dialer. Maybe you tried a

Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
Known bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271 pkill paroli pkill frameworkd opkg update opkg upgrade fixes it. Joseph 2009/4/17 blokkie blok...@h0m3.be: Greetings earthlings Some errors I collected from  upgrading the om2009  testing image , maybe it's usefull for later images

Re: [OM2009] Using fso-image instead of fso-paroli

2009-04-17 Thread François TOURDE
Le 14350ième jour après Epoch, Angus Ainslie écrivait: I also use the fso-image, to autolaunch just opkg install paroli-autostart On my first try, this was unsuccessful, but on second one, it works. 2) How to stop/start Paroli? I use the cross-icon (like for other apps), but paroli still

RE: Arabic translation please

2009-04-17 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Dear list, I have seen that the default font used by Openmoko (at least from Java (Jalimo) apps) is very rich and supports the Arabic alphabet, so it's relatively easy to translate any app. Will someone please translate the attached little dictionary

RE: Arabic translation please

2009-04-17 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Dear list, I have seen that the default font used by Openmoko (at least from Java (Jalimo) apps) is very rich and supports the Arabic alphabet, so it's relatively easy to translate any app. Will someone please translate the attached little dictionary

Re: shr - messages + wsod

2009-04-17 Thread Tony Berth
it is back :( I just tried with the latest image and kernel and WSOD is there! Thanks Tony On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch wrote: hey nelson, yes, i'm shure.. it's not a lot, but sometimes it appears.. :/ there was also a mail in the mailing list,

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
That could very well be what went wrong. I'll put hackable:1 on my list and if I experience problems, I'll let you know. Thanks! Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 13:19 +0200, Pierre Pronchery wrote: When I tried hackable:1 it did not contain a dialer and had no basic phone functionality, but I

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of any use. I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread arne anka
A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of any use. that might be as it will, but so far zhone seems to be the only dialer

Re: 16th community update released

2009-04-17 Thread Yogiz
Thanks, great interview. On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:30:34 +0800 sushama sush...@openmoko.com wrote: --snip-- I being fairly new to Openmoko, decided to take an interview of Wolfgang Spraul to post for the community update.This answered the questions I had on what work we would be doing post

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Christian Gagneraud
The Digital Pioneer wrote: I'm not sure where it gets the zone from, but if someone knows a way to sync from GSM without screwing up the TZ, I'd love to hear it. Hi, GSM can't be used as a time source, only as a zone source. That's what i understand when i look at otimed.py:

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
...Which makes the FR pretty much the only phone in the USA that doesn't get its time from the network... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
On Friday 17 April 2009 18:03:51 The Digital Pioneer wrote: ...Which makes the FR pretty much the only phone in the USA that doesn't get its time from the network... I thought get time from network is cdma feature. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 17 April 2009 17:03:51 The Digital Pioneer wrote: ...Which makes the FR pretty much the only phone in the USA that doesn't get its time from the network... I have not seeing you answering http://www.mail- archive.com/de...@lists.openmoko.org/msg02181.html ...

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I have no idea how, I just know that pretty much every phone in the USA syncs time from the network. They also change timezones automatically. Michael Lauer: Not entirely sure what that page is saying... Is it saying we don't know exactly how to get time from the network?

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 17 April 2009 17:30:37 The Digital Pioneer wrote: Michael Lauer: Not entirely sure what that page is saying... Is it saying we don't know exactly how to get time from the network? Once someone sends me an unsolicited response code from a FreeRunner that shows that the network sent

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Thomas Seiler wrote: Hi, Why enlightenment? | You see things; and you say, 'Why?' | But I dream things that never were; and I say, Why not? |George Bernard Shaw, Thumbs up, here! It was my reply too (Shaw, you only come up before! :P). By the way if I can give my idea, the switch

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 17. April 2009 17:43:03 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: On Friday 17 April 2009 17:30:37 The Digital Pioneer wrote: Michael Lauer: Not entirely sure what that page is saying... Is it saying we don't know exactly how to get time from the network? Once someone sends me an

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I am in USA, on ATT's 3G network (I think) and I never got a response either... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: shr - messages + wsod

2009-04-17 Thread Nelson Castillo
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: it is back :( I just tried with the latest image and kernel and WSOD is there! I see. WSOD could be device specific. Could you try this kernel?

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
As you mention, debian may not be the right project to try to focus on a subset of apps. I'll have to retry hackable:1 and try SHR before I start trying to mold a community of like-minded on top of debian ;) I don't think I have enough of an overview to not end up being counter productive. Give

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
I know this is inflammatory, but I really couldn't resist: You see things; and you say, 'Why not?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, Why not not? Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 17:43 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Thomas Seiler wrote: Hi, Why enlightenment? | You

[all] locales: cannot map archive header: Invalid argument

2009-04-17 Thread arne anka
since it came up again rather recently and i experienced it again yesterday and all occurences of the error were linked to people using the freerunner (according to google, that is) ... i reported it as a bug to debian http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=524483 and it turns out

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-17 Thread Fernando Martins
William Kenworthy wrote: For bike use, someything like this may be better: http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/p1000129.jpg looks promising! Exactly which material is that made of? Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-17 Thread arne anka
looks promising! Exactly which material is that made of? looks like what my dictionary calls particle board, ie wood chippings and glue made into something remotely resembling wood. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

[SHR] Missing icons after install

2009-04-17 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Hello, I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot find a way to launch certain apps (except than by using the terminal). i.e. TangoGPS is nowhere to be found, but calling tangogps from the

Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Montour
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.tuxbrain.com/shop Do you ship to Canada, and if so what are the costs + payment options? If not, does anyone know of a similar product in North America?

Re: [SHR] Missing icons after install

2009-04-17 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Oh. I should do it yesterday or today, but forgot about it. I will fix it tomorrow ;) 2009/4/17, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl: Hello, I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot find

Re: [SHR] Missing icons after install

2009-04-17 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Great! thanks for the quick answer! should it be fixed by opkg upgrade or a .e removal or a full reflash? thanks Tom Johny Tenfinger escribió: Oh. I should do it yesterday or today, but forgot about it. I will fix it tomorrow ;) 2009/4/17, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl:

Re: Leather case for Neo freeruner now 29 Euros

2009-04-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
yes I ship to canada , shipping cost to Canada for 1 unit about 8,50 euros I accept wire transfer and credit card 2009/4/17 Mike Montour m...@mmontour.net: David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Now the Openmoko leather case is at 29 Euros Vat included + Shipping costs at www.tuxbrain.com/shop

gpsd, agps etc..

2009-04-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi! I'm running the 2008.12 on my Freerunner I have agps http://www.opkg.org/package_127.html installed. I went on-line, downloaded the agps data first turning gpsd and the power on: /etc/init.d/gpsd start echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gps/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
AT%CTVZ=1 just enables the unsolicited result code. There is no way to actually _query_ the time from the network. It depends on the operator whether it sends it to you or not. It also depends on the modem whether it can understand the network time report or not. The unsolicited result code can

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I was wondering where 'unsolicited' fit into all this... OK, so how do I log it without having it connected to my laptop all the time? :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Marcel
Am Samstag, 18. April 2009 00:14:15 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: I was wondering where 'unsolicited' fit into all this... OK, so how do I log it without having it connected to my laptop all the time? :P Maybe some construction with mickeyterm in a screen session and modifying the python code

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Meh, would `mickeyterm 21 AT%CTVZ=1 | tee mickeyterm.out` work? :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Leonti Bielski
Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog - without changin the main code. I don't say

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-17 Thread William Kenworthy
Very think laminated chipboard - left over from the builders! - waste not, want not :) BillK On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 21:47 +0200, Fernando Martins wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: For bike use, someything like this may be better: http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/p1000129.jpg looks

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Evgeny
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: AT%CTVZ=1 just enables the unsolicited result code. There is no way to actually _query_ the time from the network. It depends on the operator whether it sends it to you or not. It also depends on the modem

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread William Kenworthy
Try screen - run screen -L and it will log anything in the window to file (screenlog.0) - advantage also in that you can reattach and check whats happening as well. I presume there is no loading problems on normal operation leaving mickeyterm running? BillK On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 17:33 -0500,

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK, I ran the mickeyterm and put in AT%CTZV=1 and then closed the terminal. I assume that left the mickeyterm running...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread William Kenworthy
Install screen on your desktop so you can man screen ^ad (^ is the control key) detaches, leaving screen running screen -r reattaches ^ac creates a new window in screen ^a1, ^a2, ^a3 etc to switch between active windows Nice feature is you can also ssh in or use the local terminal and reattach

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Montour
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: AT%CTVZ=1 just enables the unsolicited result code. There is no way to actually _query_ the time from the network. I don't know what method it uses but my Nokia 3500 phone gets the current time+date automatically (operator is Fido in Canada). I've tested this by