Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-21 Thread Stroller
On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:15, Al Johnson wrote: > On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge >> Hafting wrote: >>> Could that be the default configuration? >> >> That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno >> if many operators

Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-21 Thread c_c
Hi, Al Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 21 August 2009, c_c wrote: > Have you tried unregistering then reregistering, or > shutting down then restarting the GSM module? > Both do the trick. It seems as if this service is really optimised. Data is sent only on registration. I guess I'll have to k

Hi

2009-08-21 Thread soumik sur
Hi guys, I am new to this community. I am a software developer from india. Would anybody suggest how to begin with. What are the technologies and programming languages I have to know to contribute in this project? Anybody from India in this group? Regards, Soumik. ___

Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-21 Thread Jim Ancona
AFAIK, Michael still hasn't published his changes in a public repository. To improve the speed of the Koolu build, see the patch in this email: http://android.koolu.org/pipermail/android-freerunner-koolu.org/2009-July/001149.html Jim On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Chris Samuel wrote: > On Sat,

Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-21 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:49:09 am Christopher Friedt wrote: > I've since become a bit fixated with Android Donut on my FreeRunner, > and am just about finished building an ARMv4T generic version of Donut > (hopefully everything links ok without relocations!). Next I'll have > to try to integrate a m

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/21 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : > On 8/21/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, David Reyes Samblas >> Martinez wrote: >>> 2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa : I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal >>> >>> Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10 mach

Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-08-21 Thread Shashank Bharadwaj
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Vikas Saurabh wrote: > Then we would call for the FR from outside Delhi (I know only 2 up > till now...chetan and alok...both, i guess, in bangalore) and then get > them for fix. I thought sending the FRs is a far bigger problem than > actually getting it down to t

Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-08-21 Thread Vikas Saurabh
> Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into > CU, but need date details also. We haven't yet decided on the dates. In fact we were trying to figure out if we can do #1024 and bass fix as well alongwith buzz fix. I have been neck-deep in work this week and i think same

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 21 August 2009 18:13:14 Tilman Baumann wrote: > Booting after init still takes ages. I don't know, but it seems to be a IO > throughput problem rather then CPU speed. We're just doing too much at this stage. > What I would wish for is quicker GSM login. I think have the latest > firmwar

Re: Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done

2009-08-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
> today i did the rework for bug #1024 to my freerunner. First i tried to > remove C1009 and replace it with a 22µF capacitor but i had no luck > getting it off the board with my tools. Maybe it was glued to good and i > have no smd tweezer iron to heat up both ends of C1009 at the same time. > So

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
On 21 Aug 2009, at 18:10, Edder wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Michal > Brzozowski wrote: >> 2009/8/21 Tilman Baumann >>> >>> Remember, there is almost absolutely no use case for total shutoff >>> and >>> suspend to 'Disk' since you want your GSM to stay on line on >>> suspend.

Re: Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done

2009-08-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 21 August 2009, Fox Mulder wrote: > Now i only need a reliable testcase where i can see if the rework helped > or not. Is there any scenario i can try to find out if #1024 is fixed or > not? Good to see the pics. All I can suggest is to enable deep sleep, enable logging to file on SD, a

Re: Launcher 0.30 release

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Thursday 20 August 2009 09:30:32 pm c_c wrote: > Hi, > Did anyone get their location data? (Should come under the date and above > where the LOADING.. message appears). > Any feedback about the phonelog, reminders etc? > Location data doesn't work for me, also can't get it to display the t

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Edder
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/8/21 Tilman Baumann >> >> Remember, there is almost absolutely no use case for total shutoff and >> suspend to 'Disk' since you want your GSM to stay on line on suspend. And >> for that everything but past resume from RAM is useless.

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/21 Tilman Baumann > > Remember, there is almost absolutely no use case for total shutoff and > suspend to 'Disk' since you want your GSM to stay on line on suspend. And > for that everything but past resume from RAM is useless. > There are many use cases if you're on battery for an extende

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, David Reyes Samblas > Martinez wrote: >> 2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa : >>> I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal >> >> Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10 machine with this instructuions[1] but >> fails

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > 2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa : >> I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal > > Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10 machine with this instructuions[1] but > fails on running the scripts > Seems to need Jaunt

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > On Friday 21 August 2009 16:36:07 Helge Hafting wrote: >> Now, implement suspend-to-disk (SD-card), and you can start >> reasonably quick after changing the battery. > > It should take around 40 seconds to read the memory back from SD, so if > you > can live with th

Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done

2009-08-21 Thread Fox Mulder
Hi all, today i did the rework for bug #1024 to my freerunner. First i tried to remove C1009 and replace it with a 22µF capacitor but i had no luck getting it off the board with my tools. Maybe it was glued to good and i have no smd tweezer iron to heat up both ends of C1009 at the same time. So i

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa : > I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10 machine with this instructuions[1] but fails on running the scripts Seems to need Jaunty to work out of the box, I will try to install Jaunt in some some partition and

Re: what recamping rate is considered normal, if any?

2009-08-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 21 August 2009, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > I'm running SHR unstable. A number of days ago I decided to try to > turning ti_calypso_deep_sleep to adaptive to see what would happen. > Everything *seems* okay, and though I haven't done any formal test of > battery life some anecdotal evidence

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-21 Thread Christopher Friedt
Hi Tom, It's nice to know that you're still working on this [1]. I had a bit of a 'break' after I moved back to Germany and got back into my msc program. Things are naturally quite busy because I'm still working remotely at my engineering job in Canada, so it wasn't really that much of a break in

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Werner Almesberger
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > The only sane way to substantially improve booting time is to stop booting > like a desktop PC, that is move away from starting all services just because > you can. Start them on demand and bring only the bare necessities up on boot > (filesystems, dbus, X). Yes,

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Hafting wrote: > > Could that be the default configuration? > > That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno > if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild > (

Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 21 August 2009, c_c wrote: > Hi, > Going to a different geographical location gives me the location string > of the new cell for the first time. But, re-starting launcher doesn't. > Something to do with the calypso? Or the cell tower. Have you tried unregistering then reregistering, or

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 21 August 2009 16:36:07 Helge Hafting wrote: > Now, implement suspend-to-disk (SD-card), and you can start > reasonably quick after changing the battery. It should take around 40 seconds to read the memory back from SD, so if you can live with that, implementing suspend-to-disk might be

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-21 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Hafting wrote: > Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild (i.e. anybody could be able to know where you are... ). Wi

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] >> DAEMON_OPTS="-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE" > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fso-gpsd -? > [...] > -S integer (default 2947) Set port for daemon > [...] > so you could provide just "-S gpsd" so daemon listen an all IPs... > Could that be the default configuration? A laptop

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > On Friday 21 August 2009 06:21:52 Wolfgang Spraul wrote: >>> Not really. Reloading (in the worst case) 128MB from an SD is not exactly >>> fast either. >>> >>> The only sane way to substantially improve booting time is to stop >>> booting like a desktop PC, that is m

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Warren Baird
Yeah, that makes sense - using the bb info if there's nothing else - maybe we just initially populate the frappdb from the bb files... Hmm. On the other hand, if someone writes a more detailed description on frappdb, should that description get pushed back into the bb files? Warren On Fri, Au

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-21 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:01:53 pm Thomas White wrote: > It's important to note that, at this stage, the work is less about > performance and more about laying a solid basis for DRI [1]. I don't know if it's of interest, but Michael Trimarchi who does the Panicking port of Android to the FreeRunner

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal To me this sounds like exactly something we're looking for: - APT-Portal is a web content management system that retrieves information from a Debian APT repository and presents an application list on a user friendl

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:10:05PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Rui: well done trying to call! :) > And I also agree that the name opkg.org is not the best one as opk is > used in other platforms and other formats are used on FR too.. Ok, so maybe we'll just let opkg.org die then. > I think

Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface

2009-08-21 Thread dorje
rusolis wrote: > > I hope you have fun > Ok... I use litephone as dailyphone since 2 weeks now and I really love it! :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/testing-Litephone-new-phone-interface-tp3336730p3489235.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Marcel
I like that idea. :) We could combine both approaches - a showroom for apps (making the Hall of Fame on the wiki obsolete which is kinda hard to keep up to date...) with possibility to comment on different app-distro-whatever-combinations. We could even consider having different kinds of hardware i

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Warren Baird wrote: > I'm not sure about tying it directly to the bb files - it's not clear to me > that the formating and information appropriate for a web-based db is the > same as what you'd want in a bb file... Well, list of packages would be done by scanning bb files, but descrip

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Warren Baird wrote: > Funnily enough, I was just thinking about posting about something very > similar to this a couple of days ago... So there are more of us who want something like this and are not happy with the current solution. Good to hear! > The model I was

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Michael Pilgermann wrote: >> * Also create a client for FR to search & install apps > (+) low prio I would change this one into " * Integrate SHR Installer with showroom" -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list c

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Agreed, when opkg.org started I insisted a bit with Tobias so that he wouldn't make it a distribution point but a facilitator towards finding interesting apps *from*the*repos* :) Rui On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:01:56AM -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Frankly, I'm not that fond of the name opkg.org...

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Warren Baird
Frankly, I'm not that fond of the name opkg.org... As I said, I'd rather have some kind of an application database - something that explicitly *does not* provide opkg files. Maybe we should get something like frappdb.org or something like that? Warren On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Rui Migue

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:46:05PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:25:25PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the author is not > > co-operative (cannot be reached, doesn't answer e-mails or jabber) > > there's not muc

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:25:25PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the author is not > co-operative (cannot be reached, doesn't answer e-mails or jabber) > there's not much we or OM can do about it. Have any of these physical contacts been tried? We

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Warren Baird
Funnily enough, I was just thinking about posting about something very similar to this a couple of days ago... I definitely agree that opkg.org is broken in many ways, and impossible to fix atm. And I think some kind of application database is very important. The model I was thinking about was a

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:25:25 +0300 > Von: "Risto H. Kurppa" > An: List for Openmoko community discussion > Betreff: Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps > Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the author is not > co-operative (cannot be re

Re: osm2go on the freerunner

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Fertser
Robin Paulson writes: > Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() > without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged That's a warning, not error. Just ignore it for now. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the author is not co-operative (cannot be reached, doesn't answer e-mails or jabber) there's not much we or OM can do about it. Summa summarum: * Looks like there are people around who support the idea of showroom. * Showroom, not a repository * Read

osm2go on the freerunner

2009-08-21 Thread Robin Paulson
hi all, i've been trying out osm2go recently on the freerunner, for offline editing. has anyone else had a go with it? there are ipk packages and deps at the links below. problem is, i get a segfault whenever i try to load a project. also, i'm getting the following python error on start: Using **p

Re: [QtMoko] new images v6

2009-08-21 Thread Bart .
Dnia 21 sierpnia 2009 7:33 Radek Polak napisał(a): > > Do You know why bluetooth couldn't be enabled by btsettings ? > > I mean checkbox m_powerCheckBox is checked but Options are disabled. > > This is bug in version v6. Thanks for finding it out. I tried to speedup > phone start by delaying init

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa : > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Sebastian > Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> On 8/21/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >>> Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README, >>> INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this >>> showroo

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Patryk Benderz wrote: >> Official Openmoko distributions are Om2009 and SHR (as now it's > Really? I have just checked here: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Official_Openmoko_releases > and SHR is not listed as official. Should it be updated? Openmoko Inc. is no longer s

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] > So what? Then such "showroom" should have Android, OpenWrt, Qtopia, > OE, Gentoo, Debian, Arch... and other versions of packages for one > app? Who'll package it then? Application developer? Showroom > maintainer? Please be serious... and that is exactly why "Showroom" should be showroom on

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 8/21/09, Martin Jansa wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13:04PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > >> -> Still I think there's a need for a platform to promote ~working > >> apps in an appealing way. > > > > Yes that's t

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/21 Michal Brzozowski : > Sounds like a good idea. But don't forget other features that people demand. > Voting, popularity ranks, comments, testing reports on various distros, etc. > We need a website in my opinion. Nothing stops a frontend to add features to the basic showing functionality,

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] > It does not look good! Wiki is a nice idea, freely editable for > everyone - but it just doesn't work for all purposes. Such a showroom doesn't need to look fancy - it has to be informative! Something like: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/pl&oldid=40837 is nice enough for

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:45:00AM -0500, KaZeR wrote: > One problem is that distro packaged apps sometimes lag way behind bleeding > edge. > e.g. : navit in SHR : r2309, navit via navit's feed : r2511 : that's quite a > lot. > > It's not a criticism, just my 2 cents :) And sometimes its vice-ve

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Sebastian > Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> On 8/21/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >>> Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README, >>> INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this >>>

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
I dont think its a good idea to have the app showroom just "browse" a distribution repository. However, ... If the showroom is made so that it uses bb files etc, to get the application information. Then getting your application into the showroom would also imply that it gets into the distribu

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 8/21/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >> Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README, >> INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this >> showroom? > ++ from me! Some way for brows

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Sounds like a good idea. But don't forget other features that people demand. Voting, popularity ranks, comments, testing reports on various distros, etc. We need a website in my opinion. 2009/8/21 David Reyes Samblas Martinez > Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README, >

Different Navit builds

2009-08-21 Thread Christian Rüb
Hi, as there are some notable differences between navit from SHR[1] and navit directly [2]. Does someone know how the navit binary from [2] is built? Maybe advantages can be merged? Navit version from [1] is 0.1.0+svnrev2309-r3 from [2] is svn-2511 differences I noticed so far: [1]: honours $H

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README, > INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this > showroom? > bb files has a DESCRIPTION field that can be a little wikified (==, *, > ) to have a bare minimum p

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README, INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this showroom? bb files has a DESCRIPTION field that can be a little wikified (==, *, ) to have a bare minimum presentation card and can be enriched with the other files ,

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > I have one idea: how do you want to catch up with library changes > (...) STFU, s/idea/question/. It's still a little bit too early for me :x -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing lis

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Martin Jansa wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13:04PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >> -> Still I think there's a need for a platform to promote ~working >> apps in an appealing way. > > Yes that's true and I think that opkg.org is doing just that. > > Only few small parts are missi

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/21 Martin Jansa > IMHO only few improvements of opkg.org are needed.. > I agree. And since the opkg.org source code is available, we can add those improvements, fix the few bugs, and put it somewhere like www.openmoko.org/showroom (if we don't manage to contact opkg.org author) __

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13:04PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > -> Still I think there's a need for a platform to promote ~working > apps in an appealing way. Yes that's true and I think that opkg.org is doing just that. Only few small parts are missing. 1) Use it rather as nice showroom, not

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, KaZeR wrote: > > > > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> >> My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks >> someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo. >> And that's all. >> >> That's distro maintainers who should do packages, not app developers

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread KaZeR
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks > someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo. > And that's all. > > That's distro maintainers who should do packages, not app developers! > When app developers do packagin

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Arne & Sebastian, let's try to cool down. Sebastian: if you don't agree that something like this is needed, fine, thanks for letting us know, now would you please let us to work on it if we want. Android already has it's own showroom (as pointed out in the original mail). So does QT extended: htt

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread arne anka
> So what? Then such "showroom" should have Android, OpenWrt, Qtopia, > OE, Gentoo, Debian, Arch... and other versions of packages for one > Ok, so we can't talk about any distro here, cause it isn't "Android > centric"? I can't recommend Debian for someone here, cause it's not > "Debian centric"?

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >>Regardless of the above, we should not compare Ubuntu/Debian >> repositories with opkg.org, simply because opkg is not repository. > > Not? See http://www.opkg.org/packages ... It is, but it really shouldn't be and that repo just sucks. People who don'

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, arne anka wrote: >> Maybe you don't know, but SHR is based on OpenEmbedded, so every >> Openmoko OE based distro can benefit from bb files in SHR (and after >> commiting our work to org.openembedded.dev not only Openmoko distros >> will be able to use that). > > ok, i try again: not ev

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote: >> ABSTRACT >> I think a new showroom for community created application is needed to > I think instead of creating new showroom it is better to improve > existing ones. >> boost the development and help users to get to know new apps easily. >

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/20/09, William Kenworthy wrote: > err, which version? - I did a make update, built and upgraded yesterday > (shr-u) and its not there (though the new pin dialog is - Yeah!) > > or is it only visible on a non-gta02 battery? > > BillK It's only visible when you have "smart battery" driver load

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread arne anka
> Maybe you don't know, but SHR is based on OpenEmbedded, so every > Openmoko OE based distro can benefit from bb files in SHR (and after > commiting our work to org.openembedded.dev not only Openmoko distros > will be able to use that). ok, i try again: not every distribution used on the fr is ba

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Michael Pilgermann wrote: > Dear all, > > maybe, another perspective here from an apps developer's point of view: > > I do believe, that we need a proper / nice directory of applications, which > users may browse through. I am aware of the following repositories r

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, arne anka wrote: >> shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org >> This maillist has patchwork on top of it on >> http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/ >> I think that's enough. > > maybe you haven't heard yet -- but not everybody uses shr. > and since the subject clearly states ALL, i don't really

Re: Launcher 0.30 release

2009-08-21 Thread zaptac
Hi, Am 21.08.2009 06:17, schrieb c_c: >Well, thats one issue. Could you copy all the icons from > /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps to /usr/share/pixmaps ? cd /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps for i in *; do if [ ! -f /usr/share/pixmaps/$i ] then ln -s /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/$i \

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread arne anka
> shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org > This maillist has patchwork on top of it on > http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/ > I think that's enough. maybe you haven't heard yet -- but not everybody uses shr. and since the subject clearly states ALL, i don't really see what makes you so adamant about

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
> My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks > someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo. > And that's all. I agree, however after going through all the development pages in a wiki. The steps involved in creating an application and making a *.bb file

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Fabian Henze wrote: > On Thursday, 20th of August 2009 14:04:49 UTC Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks >> someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo. >> And that's all. > > That's a great idea. But t

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/21/09, Michael Pilgermann wrote: > For the packaging issue - I really like the idea of boosting the process to > integrate into reps / distributions. (this would btw. ease the process of > installation). > However, documentation on how to do this is really rare. One could probably > find a wa

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-20, czw o godzinie 16:46 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze: > Hi there! > > ABSTRACT > I think a new showroom for community created application is needed to I think instead of creating new showroom it is better to improve existing ones. > boost the development and help users to get to know

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Fabian Henze
On Thursday, 20th of August 2009 14:04:49 UTC Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks > someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo. > And that's all. That's a great idea. But there has to be some way for a distro main

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 21 August 2009 06:21:52 Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > > Not really. Reloading (in the worst case) 128MB from an SD is not exactly > > fast either. > > > > The only sane way to substantially improve booting time is to stop > > booting like a desktop PC, that is move away from starting all servi

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] > My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks > someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo. > And that's all. +1 -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against

[android] Navit (vector-based gps navigation software) builds available

2009-08-21 Thread KaZeR
Hello community, The first builds of navit for android are now available here : http://download.navit-project.org/navit/android/ Comments, bug reports and suggestions are welcome, either here or via navit's tracker : http://trac.navit-project.org Enjoy! -- View this message in context: http:/

Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] > We are planning a buzz fix for FRs in India. As Rakshat has already Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into CU, but need date details also. [cut] -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii rib

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Dear all, maybe, another perspective here from an apps developer's point of view: I do believe, that we need a proper / nice directory of applications, which users may browse through. I am aware of the following repositories right now: - openmoko wiki - applications (I think, it is a good start

Re: Launcher 0.30 release

2009-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:28:51PM -0500, c_c wrote: > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > My veredict: not yet ready for reliable use, but much better than > > illume-launcher > > feature-wise :) > > > Can you tell me the problems you faced? One is quite predictable: it's still way too slow on