Re: Off Topic

2009-10-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Oct 2009, at 23:50, Kosa wrote: > ... > But we can always ask for those who write about Wikireader to use a > [wikireader] tag on the subject. That way you can filter everything > with > that tag, so it never gets to you inbox. We have done that with the > distros and it has worked quite

Re: GSM errors after 1024 fix

2009-10-15 Thread c_c
Hi, Well, mine is working for now. I managed to reboot it to show android to a friend - and it registered both in android and in shr-u - after I 'thumped' it a few times ;-) It might be because of some loose connection - I intend getting it checked soon - just need some time from pending stuff

Re: Wikireader & community

2009-10-15 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Hi Risto I'll take a stab at these questions... thanks for voicing your concerns: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Hi! > > Now, after Wikireader's been released, I'd like to hear Openmoko to > share their thoughts about the community aspects of Wikireader. > > Are you pl

Re: [WikiReader] source uploaded to github

2009-10-15 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Thanks Chris! All, I just wanted to let you know that Chris Hall is our software lead for this project. So please feel free to ask any technical questions. And enjoy our new codes. I can't wait to see what's the first new language to appear on the WikiReader. You guys are really going to love th

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > >         > >         > >         > >        <1255620003.18333.51.ca...@opal> > > >   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >                                  

Re: Xfbdev+ALSA - which phone?

2009-10-15 Thread W.Kenworthy
Thats ok if you want to make a call out, but how can you call in if the phone is suspended - leaving it running will probably give a battery life of about 4 hours or so if not less. There is also the problem of how to attach the dongle - would look kinda weird with one of those silver usb cables h

Re: Off Topic

2009-10-15 Thread Kosa
Niels Heyvaert escribió: > >> How about first waiting to see the specs & hear how hackable it is etc >> to guesstimate how much community will there be around it and use this >> to guess if it makes sense to start a new list? > > You mean=2C let's wait until it becomes a problem and than we'll th

RE: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Niels Heyvaert
<1255620003.18333.51.ca...@opal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 > How about first waiting to see the specs & hear how hackable it is etc > to guesstimate how much community

Re: Xfbdev+ALSA - which phone?

2009-10-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Right now, the Palm Pre seems to come closest to the FreeRunner wrt. openness (albeit still miles away, of course). It has just been released in europe and work has started to port an own userland based on FSO to it. Cheers, :M: ___ Openmoko communi

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Sure, no point in rushing things. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Survey: How does open source influence the community?

2009-10-15 Thread Alvie
Kerstin wrote: > Hello again, > > as promised, here you can find my first release of aggregated survey > results for all communities: > http://open-innovation-projects.org/my-research#part2 > > And here are the results from the Openmoko community: > http://open-innovation-projects.org/openmok

Re: Freerunner Review

2009-10-15 Thread RANJAN
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:08 PM, rakshat hooja wrote: > I have been hearing a lot of good about the phone from our freerunner > customers of late (change from earlier :) > > SO just sharing a recent review poster by a user > > http://guide2freerunner.blogspot.com/ > > Rakshat > > Nice link Raksh

Re: Freerunner Review

2009-10-15 Thread Nelson Castillo
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, rakshat hooja wrote: > I have been hearing a lot of good about the phone from our freerunner > customers of late (change from earlier :) > > SO just sharing a recent review poster by a user > > http://guide2freerunner.blogspot.com/ It's very nice to see recent re

Re: Xfbdev+ALSA - which phone?

2009-10-15 Thread rakshat hooja
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:32 PM, carmen <_...@whats-your.name> wrote: > since FICOpenMoko seems to have gotten out of competition against > ASUSACerHTCHuaWeiNokiaEriccsonSonySamsungLGApple in the phone dept, which is > a suitable option for someone who wants 3G data and the ability to run > anyth

Xfbdev+ALSA - which phone?

2009-10-15 Thread carmen
since FICOpenMoko seems to have gotten out of competition against ASUSACerHTCHuaWeiNokiaEriccsonSonySamsungLGApple in the phone dept, which is a suitable option for someone who wants 3G data and the ability to run anything? N900 is $600, i'd rather get 3 $100-150 mainland-china/last-generation A

Freerunner Review

2009-10-15 Thread rakshat hooja
I have been hearing a lot of good about the phone from our freerunner customers of late (change from earlier :) SO just sharing a recent review poster by a user http://guide2freerunner.blogspot.com/ Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware

Re: Off Topic

2009-10-15 Thread Mickael Labrousse
+1 Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > wrote: > >>> But however, it's Openmoko Inc who makes the decisions. >>> >> I disagree, it's our choice. These days this mailing list is now bein >> operated by the community for the community. We c

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> But however, it's Openmoko Inc who makes the decisions. > > I disagree, it's our choice. These days this mailing list is now bein > operated by the community for the community. We chose what is on topic > and what not. As for the ca

Re: GSM errors after 1024 fix

2009-10-15 Thread arne anka
> Wow, that'd be quite an achiement considering that I didn't do any > development on it. Note that it still works flawlessly here. Perhaps > software these days starts to rot, just as organic material ;) well, debian's release cycle is somewhat detached from upstream. i don't know when you "did a

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 15.10.2009, 16:01 +0300 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Niels Heyvaert > wrote: > > Yes it's a openmoko community list so both products can be discussed. Stric= > > tly speaking you're 100% correct. However=2C it would make a lot more sense= > > to h

Re: GSM errors after 1024 fix

2009-10-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 15.10.2009, 12:48 +0200 schrieb arne anka: > try the other muxer, gsmwhatsitsname, instead. > to me it seems, fso-abyss has detoriated into almost unusability over the > last months. Wow, that'd be quite an achiement considering that I didn't do any development on it. Note tha

Re: voice calls with 3G USB dongle

2009-10-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch, den 14.10.2009, 18:55 -0500 schrieb Eric Olson: > I was wondering about those details too. If it works, perhaps FSO could > consider adding support for the huawei E169 or similar 3G modems :D Absolutely, in fact, chances are it'll already work with the singleline abstraction. :M:

Re: Thanks for good work on the WIFI driver

2009-10-15 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 10/15/09, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/10/15 Helge Hafting > >> Michal Brzozowski wrote: >> >> > does the wifi antenna keep eating power while suspended or does it turn >> > off? >> >> I have no way of measuring that. >> >> > Just check how much power it eats overnight. The battery should r

Re: boot mmc problems

2009-10-15 Thread ik
Hi, Thank you for your answer. After further investigation, it seems like SHR /dev/ directory does not contain any mmc device at all. It seems like om does not find the uSD socket any more. Ido http://ik.homelinux.org/ On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Davide Scaini wrote: > Try flashing a

RE: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Niels Heyvaert
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 > > I do agree that not everyone are interested in both products=2C but > given the traffic we have=2C now that om2009 is not existing & > discussed=2C SHR is dis

Wikireader & community

2009-10-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi! Now, after Wikireader's been released, I'd like to hear Openmoko to share their thoughts about the community aspects of Wikireader. Are you planning to encourage the creation of a devel/user community around Wikireader? If yes, then What are the tech specs? We don't even know the dimensions

Re: Thanks for good work on the WIFI driver

2009-10-15 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/10/15 Helge Hafting > Michal Brzozowski wrote: > > > does the wifi antenna keep eating power while suspended or does it turn > > off? > > I have no way of measuring that. > > Just check how much power it eats overnight. The battery should run out if the wifi is on. But that's actually not im

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > Yes it's a openmoko community list so both products can be discussed. Stric= > tly speaking you're 100% correct. However=2C it would make a lot more sense= >  to have separate lists for the FR and the WikiReader. > =20 > - Not everybody inte

Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > As read on slashdot : > [...] > at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell > into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a > complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heav

Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
As I see the wikireader becoming interested for different groups of funs. 1. Hitch hacker guide to the galaxy. DON'T PANIC 2. Fallout (pip-boy!) 3. Jeremiah (TV series) (exactly about situation from slashdot) Who can continue? :) ... ___ Openmoko commu

Re: Thanks for good work on the WIFI driver

2009-10-15 Thread Helge Hafting
Christ van Willegen wrote: > Helge, > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Helge Hafting wrote: >> Wifi used to be very unstable and quirky, but is much improved now. > I agree! > >> I can now run a script that powers up wifi, loads the kernel >> driver module, and then runs wpa-supplicant and udh

Re: Thanks for good work on the WIFI driver

2009-10-15 Thread Helge Hafting
Michal Brzozowski wrote: > does the wifi antenna keep eating power while suspended or does it turn > off? I have no way of measuring that. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailma

Re: Thanks for good work on the WIFI driver

2009-10-15 Thread Helge Hafting
Sander van Grieken wrote: > Yeah, I haven't seen SHR-U updates for a while. Helge, is this with a > self-built image? This kernel is not that new. I think I got it in an "opkg upgrade" session. SHR-U has not updated in a while, so I think it is simple the latest SHR-U kernel. I have been using

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread rixed
> My suggestion would be to set up a separate list (either for FR or Wikiread= > er or both). This would help the community and the user adoption of both de= > vices. I agree but maybe we should wait until the problem arises in practice ? ___ Openmoko

Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/10/15 Xavier Cremaschi : > As read on slashdot : > [...] > at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell > into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a > complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and > inconvenient and make

RE: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Niels Heyvaert
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Did you notice that if we are strict=2C the mailing list has exactly as > much to do with Wikireader as with Freerunner.. > community@lists.openmoko.org > > -> to me it sound's like

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, October 15, 2009 a las 02:10:20PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa escribió: > Did you notice that if we are strict, the mailing list has exactly as > much to do with Wikireader as with Freerunner.. > community@lists.openmoko.org No, you are wrong. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/10/15 Risto H. Kurppa : > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> El día Thursday, October 15, 2009 a las 06:33:22AM -0400, Ken Young escribió: >> >>> It will be entertaining if the folks who purchase WikiReaders start >>> hanging out on the Openmoko IRC channel.   One set o

Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, October 15, 2009 a las 06:33:22AM -0400, Ken Young escribió: > >> It will be entertaining if the folks who purchase WikiReaders start >> hanging out on the Openmoko IRC channel.   One set of participants will >> be blatherin

Re: GSM errors after 1024 fix

2009-10-15 Thread rakshat hooja
have you changed the deep sleep mode setting? or have you done an opkg update after the fix? if yes can you revert back and check. also check if recamping has stopped after the fix - just to be sure the fix was ok. On 10/15/09, c_c wrote: > > > > rakshat wrote: >> >> Did u manage to register at a

Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)

2009-10-15 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, October 15, 2009 a las 06:33:22AM -0400, Ken Young escribió: > It will be entertaining if the folks who purchase WikiReaders start > hanging out on the Openmoko IRC channel. One set of participants will > be blathering on about wpa_supplicant files, and the other will be > askin

Re: GSM errors after 1024 fix

2009-10-15 Thread arne anka
try the other muxer, gsmwhatsitsname, instead. to me it seems, fso-abyss has detoriated into almost unusability over the last months. when is started with it, month ago, it worked flawlessly, after doing an update to a more recent version of fso in july/august, zhone had issues requesting th

Re: boot mmc problems

2009-10-15 Thread Davide Scaini
Try flashing a new qi on your fr... android flashes a patched version of qi. d On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM, ik wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm having problems booting from the uSD since I installed (once) Android > on my Neo FreeRunner (I removed it since then). > At first it claimed it can no

boot mmc problems

2009-10-15 Thread ik
Hello list, I'm having problems booting from the uSD since I installed (once) Android on my Neo FreeRunner (I removed it since then). At first it claimed it can not boot from mmc, and now it claims it can not find any boot partition and Kernel image. It seems like it does not access the memory car

WikiReader

2009-10-15 Thread Ken Young
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: [...] > This device gives you : > - offline access to Wikipedia > - on a cheap device (it could be cheaper if the company were bigger I > presume) > - which uses AAA batteries, available anywhere in the world. > > We (US/EU/Jap) almost don't care about these 3 points [...]

Re: voice calls with 3G USB dongle

2009-10-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 14 October 2009, Nicola Mfb wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors > > wrote: > > William Kenworthy writes: > >> So the FR is now obsolete - but is it possible to use the FR with an > >> external 3G dongle? - I know it works for data from previous posts here

Re: Survey: How does open source influence the community?

2009-10-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Kerstin wrote: > Hello again, > > as promised, here you can find my first release of aggregated survey > results for all communities: > http://open-innovation-projects.org/my-research#part2 > > And here are the results from the Openmoko community: > http://open-inn

Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
As read on slashdot : [...] at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, co

Re: [Community Updates] 2009-10-14 released!

2009-10-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Wow, you rock! Thanks for doing this! r | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : > Ok this is the english version of wikipedia and it is sold in US/EU/Jap > (not the best market for it), but it's not *that* bad for a start : > geeks make you earn a bit of cash, and could start tweaking the > device... (ebook reader feature someone ?) > > Xavier Cre

Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
In our geeky daily life we are able to access to Wikipedia anywhere (home, work, transport), on high-res full color devices (computer, phones...). Because hi-tech and Internet/Phone are everywhere. This device gives you : - offline access to Wikipedia - on a cheap device (it could be cheaper if

Re: Thanks for good work on the WIFI driver

2009-10-15 Thread Sander van Grieken
Yeah, I haven't seen SHR-U updates for a while. Helge, is this with a self-built image? grtz, Sander On Wednesday 14 October 2009 17:20:56 Martijn van den Broek wrote: > Is that kernel the one from first of september from below? > http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/?C=M;O=D >

[Community Updates] 2009-10-14 released!

2009-10-15 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody, recent Community Update is out! Take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-10-14 and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-10-28 -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii rib