Re: Future of projects.openmoko.org

2010-12-29 Thread Alfa21
2010-12...@22:57 Risto H. Kurppa > If somebody steps forwared to take the existing information and put all of the > repositories + downloads online somewhere (read-only) for historic reference, > I'd be more than happy to provide the respective account/data. > > Regards, >        Harald > -- > - H

Re: grsecurity in kernel? [ doc and "PaX performance impact"]

2010-12-29 Thread Glenn
At 23:38 +0100 29/12/10, Vinzenz Hersche wrote: Glenn, i like to try this for a kernel.. it should need just be a patched kernel (so need to recompile) and a loaded kernel or what do you think? i don't know so much about cross-compile, but i like to learn it.. if also someone else like to join t

Re: grsecurity in kernel?

2010-12-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vinzenz Hersche writes: > it should need just be a patched > kernel (so need to recompile) and a loaded kernel or what do you think? > > ...a loaded module, of course.. sry, typo.. :) I don't think grsec can be a separate module. ___ Openmoko communi

Re: grsecurity in kernel? (PaX: The Guaranteed End of Arbitrary Code Execution)

2010-12-29 Thread Glenn
At 23:38 +0100 29/12/10, Vinzenz Hersche wrote: Glenn, i like to try this for a kernel.. it should need just be a patched kernel (so need to recompile) and a loaded kernel or what do you think? i don't know so much about cross-compile, but i like to learn it.. if also someone else like to join t

Re: grsecurity in kernel?

2010-12-29 Thread Gennady Kupava
Hi, Vinzenz Just get kernel matching your distro, add your favorite patch and rebuild. You may use almost any armel toolchain. In fact only sources used in particular distro are different, but you may find it on site of your favorite distro. You may join irc on freenode, #openmoko channel if you

Re: grsecurity in kernel?

2010-12-29 Thread Gennady Kupava
В Срд, 29/12/2010 в 23:28 +0100, Glenn пишет: > At 0:06 +0200 30/12/10, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > >Glenn writes: > >> Maybe it might be a good idea to embed grsecurity in the kernel - for > >> two reasons: > > > >I think the main goal should be to upstream our changes, not add new > >changes

Re: grsecurity in kernel?

2010-12-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Glenn writes: >>What has grsecurity to do with debugging? > > On there home page they write: > > # Prevention of arbitrary code execution, regardless of the technique > used (stack smashing, heap corruption, etc) > # Prevention of arbitrary code execution in the kernel > # Randomization of the sta

Re: grsecurity in kernel?

2010-12-29 Thread Glenn
At 0:06 +0200 30/12/10, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Glenn writes: Maybe it might be a good idea to embed grsecurity in the kernel - for two reasons: I think the main goal should be to upstream our changes, not add new changes that are not upstream. * Debug programs and drivers (faster de

Re: [Debian] 2.6.34 Openmoko kernel package available

2010-12-29 Thread Neil Jerram
On 17 December 2010 10:10, Al Johnson wrote: > On Friday 17 December 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: >> >> Anyway, if one can come up with a perfect xorg.conf that disables the >> extra devices there and only configures glamo + touch input + hw >> buttons, that'd be nice. What about the SHR xorg.conf?

Re: grsecurity in kernel?

2010-12-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Glenn writes: > Maybe it might be a good idea to embed grsecurity in the kernel - for > two reasons: I think the main goal should be to upstream our changes, not add new changes that are not upstream. > * Debug programs and drivers (faster debugging?) What has grsecurity to do with debugging?

grsecurity in kernel?

2010-12-29 Thread Glenn
Maybe it might be a good idea to embed grsecurity in the kernel - for two reasons: * Debug programs and drivers (faster debugging?) * Heighten security ? Have no idea how the performance impact might be. http://grsecurity.net/ Quote: "... [02/10] Official grsecurity/PaX support on ARM [01/25

Future of projects.openmoko.org

2010-12-29 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
See below. r -- Forwarded message -- From: Harald Welte Date: Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:00 PM Subject: Re: openmoko.org services / projects is now down.. To: "Risto H. Kurppa" On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:41:47PM +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Hi Harald! > > There has now been som

Re: Qi vs U-boot

2010-12-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
giacomo mariani writes: > You can achive a "similar" result using editUenv.sh from > http://code.google.com/p/edituenv/ (also based on devirginator). That seems to use uboot-envedit which is not in Debian. I'd rather use the established fw_setenv tool.

Re: Qi vs U-boot (was Re: QtMoko v30; UBIFS; can't boot)

2010-12-29 Thread giacomo mariani
>> > Please tell me how to do this! I have no religious bind to Qi. To >> > hell >> with minimalism, let us all use the bootloader that is standard, >> smart, configurable and well supported. >> >> I think easiest way is to use fw_setenv. I rethought, need relatively >> trivial modification to u-b