Hi!
This is the nineth Community Updates, January 12th issue.
For the new year we interviewed Sean on everything that matters for the
community: sales in 2008 were around the low five digits, om-locations is
what remains of an ambitious mesh network project, and the most surprising
Hi,
The draft of next Community update is at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/January_12th%2C_2009
Everybody is welcome to check for falsehoods, inaccuracies or missing bits of
informations.
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Sean,
I always wondered why you were not reusing XO's wifi chip subsystem (Marvell
88W8388) ? OLPC has already mesh networking and I guess good integration in
the kernel. Too expensive, proprietary, complicated ?
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Hi everybody,
This is Openmoko community community newsletter #8, year's end issue. This
couple of weeks were packed with lots of action. Openmoko released the
2008.12 distribution upgrade and Koolu released its first Android beta. Both
these were very expected and, actually contained no
Le vendredi 26 décembre 2008, Michele Renda a écrit :
I think this email is giving a lot of explanation.
Is ok to put this on Wiki? (In a section Email not to lose?)
Put it on the wiki, but please do find a better place for it rather
than Email not to lose !
Minh
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Le mardi 23 décembre 2008, Pander a écrit :
Hi all,
At the moment these are the opkg categories (as seen on http://opkg.org):
...
Would it be more appropriate to use the relevant Debian/Ubuntu dpkg
categories?
...
While looking into this, perhaps a new category called GPS needs to be
Le lundi 22 décembre 2008, Steve Mosher a écrit :
Will need some time on this.
Sure. I was actually planning to publish the interview for year's end.
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Dear friends,
Sean kindly agreed to be interviewed for the next edition of the Community
Update newsletter. I invite every subscriber of this list to post the
question or questions that s-he cares about most. No gloves. The general
topic is Openmoko, the community, past-present-future, but
Dear friend,
Welcome back to the Seventh edition of our community Community Updates
newsletter. It was actually chilly around here, especially when John
announced that the Optimization Team was disbanded, but there was still no
release. A perfect weather to sip hot drinks from a fan mug
Dear peers,
The draft of our next Community update is available for review at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/December_15th%2C_2008
Cordially yours,
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that the official plan does not seem to include its release to the masses.
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a myth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_Effect
Respectfull note to Sean M-P: the community is not interested in a
myth-dispelling experiment.
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My native language is Chinese, so it's kind of difficult for me to enhance
I consider writing as another information product just like code. It needs
debugging too, and peer review (i.e. many eyes) is the key. Think testing
team. I am in the academia, and systematically have one or two
as Arne correctly spotted I was only interested in helping fund
global domination, which does not come for free. I can design my own T
Shirt and have it made but benefit to OM = Zero. Not interested in this
at all. If OM have made it clear they are not into derived products then
that
that knowing that someone works a graphical alsamixer, based on
the real circuit layout, that highlights in real time the connected circuits,
where you click on a control to change it, that can manage the .state files
etc... would be worth about €50 pocket money to me.
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is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a T-Shirt
and upload it to an online store where everybody else can go and buy it. So
just do it: the entry costs are so low that there is no real need for a
formal market study !
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Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008, Christopher J. White a écrit :
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:37 +, Joachim Breitner wrote:
Someone willing to do some cleanup and general QA on
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ?
I can take a crack at this, since I just recently went through the pain
of an
.).
Cordially,
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Dear friends,
Good evening/day/afternoon (whatever your TZ is). This is our sixth community
community update. Congratulations to Valério, he won the first 24h-coding
prize at Sapo Codebits by turning freerunner in a mouse and gamepad using the
accelerometers. Code will be merged with ReMoko.
Hi guys,
As usual, the draft is at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates
Please feel free to fix/update/add whatever, the newsletter should go on
Monday if all goes well.
Yours,
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Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008, Dale Maggee a écrit :
drac2000 wrote:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes
:-p
Just for the record, these were contributed by various people here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg33921.html
And everybody is welcome to add to the
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Openmoko Community Newsletter, for the
November 3th to November 16th timespan. During these two weeks, we had FSO
milestone IV and a testing SHR image released. Openmoko pulled the download
server offline due to an mp3 copyright issue, they are rebuilding
and discussed on the Hardware mailing list:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/
Check September, October... it is about half of the traffic there.
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am sure that you will engage for other worthy
causes and communities soon, there are so many ways to improve this world.
Thanks for the encouragements.
Wishing you well too,
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Le samedi 15 novembre 2008, Matthias Apitz a écrit :
I don't know if it reduces the drawing of power (btw: what is the
easiest method to measure it? pulling out the battery and measure the
power consumption via the cable?);
I would use something like the attached battery.py script to measure
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I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
or it'll be hard to get much new customers...
Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a
sign of good mental health when a community is able to make fun of itself.
Besides, where else would
Regards,
Wolfgang
wow, this is the first I hear about this
I don't think it is very well know in the community.
Maybe somebody can put a notification on the main page of the wiki about
it?
To say what ?
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to opkg.org and added to the Applications page, or
- have their own page in the wiki
(it's a non-exclusive OR)
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keyboard:
THIS application uses THAT layout ?
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Le jeudi 13 novembre 2008, BrendaWang a écrit :
I would like to keep this page. People who want to find applications can
use this page. And add any applications link here.
If you are talking about /Applications, me too.
Then, I would like to delete pages like following:
.
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Conversion .ipk to/from .deb are dealt with in section 6) in the ipkg building
HOWTO:
http://download.intrinsyc.com/supported/os/linux/distribution/i-linux-4.1/i-packages-1.1/src/hello-world/HOWTO-ipkg
Yours,
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How about posting a reminder a day or two before the release for
people to add new items there?
Good idea, I will do that.
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Hello,
An unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter for October 20th to November 2nd
is available for your reading and editing pleasure at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/November_2nd%2C_2008
Today's headline is: Android is definitely coming to the Neo FreeRunner.
Many
Le lundi 27 octobre 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Could anyone confirm CRC fail is sort of normal?
On October 12th, Andy said that:
Currently 2.6.27 doesn't do mtd properly and blows chunks with these CRC
errors, didn't find why yet.
Dear John,
I agree that the blog post, and especially the title, was closer to
low-level sensational journalism than to international diplomacy. I was kind
of shocked as you probably were to read Openmoko has announced their 'Back
to basics' plan a week ago. It's time to review. I am afraid
The wiki s needs more pretty pictures.
I will try to add some screen captures too, when my neo comes back from
a brief the demo tour
Cool. Actually that was a subliminal message to other distribution managers.
Especially to SHR and ASU, since Qt, Debian and Android more or less already
According to http://koolu.com/
Koolu Beta port of Android for Freerunner will be available to download for
existing Freerunner owners and installed on phones for sale in November 2008.
And they have been working at it for months.
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Dear wanabee mentored,
Mentoring might be the wrong term as it implies some obligation from the
person assisting. If you were contributing code then I'm sure someone might
consider it.
Project managers already trust _you_ explicitely to go forward and commit
the changes you think are good:
because I fully
subscribe to it and could not have said it better.
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Hello everybody,
welcome to the unofficial Openmoko Community newsletter, October 4th to 19th
issue. The two big news are the launch of opkg.org, an application directory,
and Openmoko engineering team focusing back to the basics on Improving user
experience.
Hi,
What happens to the handful of bugs tagged Installer, Locations and Settings
for 2008.10 then ? My understanding is that they do not fall in the perimeter
of OM's new back to basics strategy, so are these orphans ?
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To Rui and all others interested in bootime improvement:
A bootchart is available at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Alessandro
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socket :-).
Well, when it is available someone test try it and add it to:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_USB_charger_specifications_and_compatibility_list
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I have just completed my first packages for the Openmoko. First things
first, here are the instructions, download links, and screenshots:
http://people.defora.org/~khorben/200810.html#20081016022955
Besides about the programs themselves, I will welcome suggestions
regarding how to better
So, tell us what you want, then the coding monkeys will start working!
In my opinion, the buttons and LED are critical parts of the user-experience.
They are still not consistent and reliable enough. Quick test: can _you_ tell
what the various colours and light / blinking states mean ?
Le lundi 06 octobre 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8
Yes.
My analysis is:
these images were created by Openmoko, of Openmoko sofware, and uploaded by
Coolcat, who is an Openmoko
Contents
* 1 Distributions
* 2 Applications
* 3 Hardware
* 4 Wiki and community
* 5 From the stars
* 6 Outside Openmoko
[edit] Distributions
* The big affair was the release of Om2008.9 Update on September 19th, the
dot one ASU. Or was it a big non-event, because
servers, to bring immediate benefits like
fixing the repeated messages in mailing lists, google search mediawiki
extentions, do the community-repository interface.
- Gardens and grows the translation teams and local user groups system.
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Le lundi 06 octobre 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
these guys are doing fantastic job:
http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/search/label/openmoko
But they're not even in the planet! (I just filed a bug to
admin-trac).
Please make sure that the feed is not syndicated without discussing it
Hi Risto,
BUGS:
I think the TRAC is for everybody, not just high-level hackers.
I reported totally cosmetic bugs in the tracker, like
there is a spelling mistake in Assassin's package desctiption
or
xterm is missing an icon
and they got fixed simply and quickly. Nobody complains. It works
hit answer call a second time and as
a result hung up immediately. Probably should avoid this UI design
pitfall in future dialer (and other) interfaces.
I agree too. Do you think there is a ticket open already ?
Minh
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Le lundi 29 septembre 2008, Nishit Dave a écrit :
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Minh Ha Duong
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Le lundi 29 septembre 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I'm just sending this out there for anyone working on a/the dialer UI.
At the moment with the qtopia (ergo
Paroli? We need more info about this
I am in the dark as much as you are...
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Le lundi 29 septembre 2008, Nicola Mfb a écrit :
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Where may we start a wiki page on this argument (openmoko,
openembedded, fso?)
I would create the page with a link on
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide
and categorize
Where may we start a wiki page on this argument (openmoko, openembedded,
fso?)
I would create the page with a link on
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide
and categorize it under
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Application_Developer
Minh
I have been on this list a few days and thought it only decent to
introduce my presence.
Welcome then.
Is the Freerunner able to run a PIM-like application (if so, what would
that be)?
Trolltech ported Qtopia to the FIC Neo Freerunner and 1973 phone,
I have never read about anybody daring
I see the artists and the CAD engineers are hot this week and like it. May I
seize this opportunity to get your attention to:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Desktop_wallpaper_gallery
which is a place to share Openmoko-themed full-screen high-quality images.
So far we have only one, the Blueprints
launch a script when IF_UP; in this script you may, based on the MAC of
the AP, do whatever is needed: ifconfig static IP or DHCP or
a logic like that must exist in Debian too, I'm wrong?
and this is not much scripting work, or?
Yes, in Debian here is how I do it:
between the ID pin
and the GND pin in the USB connector to identify it as a FreeRunner
compatible charger.
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rightly noticed. Please empathize with
the pain of the documentation team. Without clear names we can't make clear
explanations. Leave stable out.
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Why won't we just invent cool codenames for the distros?
Maybe because they are not really distributions, but just point releases /
milestones of the same branch ?
Distribution = ASU
ASU release point zéro = Om 2008.8
ASU release point one = Om 2008.9
ASU 2008.8 + updates = ASU 2008.8 +
Hi Ajay,
I would suggest:
Ask for your blog to be syndicated on the Planet.
Make a wiki page to present your project.
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Or do you mean, i should have it on the Openmoko Wiki ?
You may if you want. You could also host your code at Projects.openmoko.org.
In any case, just be sure that there is a link to your project from the
Openmoko wiki.
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I attached your mails with patches and binary to the trac ticket.
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1832
QA tagged the bug for 2008.9, I hope your patch makes it for the bugfix
release. This looks like a RC bug to me.
Finger crossed,
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Le mardi 16 septembre 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
That is the u-boot splash image that is on its own partition, not
the kernel's bootsplash or x-start-splash.
True enough. I tried to clarify this on the wiki at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Themes
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Hi all,
We all love Community Updates, but that's a huge endeavour for one person to
tackle. So let us try a little social experiment here: community written
community update. I just posted an outlined list of bullet points at:
Shawn: are you aware of Dale's work ?
May I suggest also a link to the script's page from:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#A_script_to_do_all_this_from_a_nice_GUI...
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Hi,
According to this mail:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/001726.html
the boot image is flasheable too, and the next upgrade will upgrade it.
Does this look like something that zenity-gui could do ?
I can't find a zenity page on the wiki, do you want me to start
Hi Richy,
Thanks for your contribution to the wiki. It just needed fixing
'NEO' to 'Neo' and 'Linux Box' to 'Linux box'.
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Dear Sven,
Everybody sincerely regrets that there are only three pages in :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Qtopia
I suspect the reason is simply that a majority of active wiki editors use
other distributions.
Having a fresh view about what is missing from the wiki is always a
H. Hveem:
You will find a more sympathetic audience in the #openmoko channel on the
IRC server irc.freenode.net .
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So the answer to the question of Do we use namespace here ? is no. I think
it's the good answer too, and I am glad we reached the conclusion quickly and
rationally.
When the wiki is renamed we will move the handfull of meta pages about the
wiki in the appropriate namespace.
What do you
Hi Raster, and hi all,
It's great news to learn that there should be an illume-config-illume
package that provides yours keyboard again. This is what we have all been
waiting for. But I second Tom's question: we would love to know more
precisely when and where it should be available.
Minh
with /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
5. Launch the matchbox keyboard daemon by clicking on the Keyboard icon
I did not install the package matchbox-keyboard-im , I don't know what it
is for ?
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Yeah, and keyboard useability, at last ! ;)
I am still struggling with this one. Could you please be more explicit here ?
Thanks,
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Hello Angus,
Please try installing illume-config, then let us know if the QWERTY appears.
If not, try restarting X with
/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
and then I think it should work.
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What's most visibly new:
Battery icon when unplugged
red LED behind AUX button shines
more snappy (or is it because it's a fresh install ?)
repositories is online for update and community applications
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] = @selected_bg_color
engine moko-engine {
border = TRUE
}
}
class GtkScrollbar style scrollbar
include matchboxpanel
include openmoko-calculator
include openmoko-contacts
include openmoko-dialer
include openmoko-panel-plugins
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# Applications/zh cn (2 members)
# Applications/zh tw (1 member)
#
Is it as obvious for you as for me that it's better to revert ?
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is not loaded at boot time.
I have to
cd /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget
insmod g_ether.ko
/etc/init.d/networking restart
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That is good. Now please find a spot for that in the wiki and link to it. It's
up to you to make it known. How about this page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download
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linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page.
In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize
in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly
vacations come first.
Wishing everybody a smooth ASU experience soon,
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works ;-)
Tovarich, can you package this in a .ipk along with a shortcut in the main
menu that opens it in a brower ? Then it will be easy to lobby OM to install
it by default: this is the closest thing we have to a help / documentation /
system manual.
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/wiki/Special:Popularpages
and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list)
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf
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There is no need to volunteer to edit a wiki ! It is based on trust. Just
do what you think is obviously needed. If someone disagree they will simply
revert your changes.
I don't think forking is a good idea, we still have not completely moved
the content from the old wiki to this new wiki.
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