Re: Navigation

2009-12-09 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different  from navit? would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving it and add a new efl based interface? Good question. For me the frustrating thing about

Re: Navigation

2009-12-09 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/10 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net: Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different  from navit? would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving it and add a new efl based

Re: Hi,

2009-12-04 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/4 Jnaneshwar B.T. jnanesh...@lyrainfo.com: Hi all,    I am new to openmoko community.  I have recentely purchased Neo Freerunner hardware from distributors in India.   It is wonderful hardware software and most of the featuers are working well.  I would like to develop some

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-12-01 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/23 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009/11/23 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: For now, just to get the code out, I've created a project at gitorious: http://gitorious.org/enlightenment-for-openmoko-freerunner. For anyone who may take a look, I should say

Re: [ALL?] gcompris on openmoko?

2009-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/21 undrwater undrwa...@verizon.net: I'm wondering how difficult it might be to get gcompris working on the moko. Would any modifications need to be made for it to be useful on the screen? Seems to me touch screen is perfect for it. It's available in Debian, of course. I installed and

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/7 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: Thanks.  I think I'll look at adding this into the e17 WM. I have some code ready to share now. What would be the best way to do that - bearing in mind that the aim is to facilitate contributions and new packages for the Freerunner? If the E

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/23 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: There's an illume2 project at enlightenment, perhaps a good spot for it? It has seen some action recently, perhaps thanks to Samsung's sponsoring? Yes, but I imagine that could be pretty unstable in the short term. For now, just to get the

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/23 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: For now, just to get the code out, I've created a project at gitorious: http://gitorious.org/enlightenment-for-openmoko-freerunner. For anyone who may take a look, I should say that there are still 2 big pieces missing: - Being notified

Re: SIP Client

2009-11-10 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/10 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: I had wondered if this might be possible. I've not looked at the idle time between packets to see whether we would get to spend a worthwhile time asleep though. From my quick googling it looks like

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-10 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/10 Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca: I meant that it should *constrain* the behaviour of rotation - more or less like omnewrotate behaves now, but skipping over the two 'incorrect' orientations. so if the app says 'landscape', it's still flip between xrandr -o 1 and xrandr -o

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/7 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: no. the proper way is to set properties on your window. How exactly does that (setting a property) happen though? Is it something that the app would normally do in its own startup code? (I presume yes.) For apps that don't already do this -

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/7 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: I'm definitely not following you... I envision the following scenario according to what you say, could you please elaborate on why it wouldn't happen this way? My thinking is evolving with this discussion, but my current idea of the solution

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/7 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: I agree that window properties is the right way to implement that, but we need a way to get rotation preferences now, while that may be proposed and discussed as a standard for the future. Yes, exactly. So a couple of questions: * is it

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/7 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: You have no solution for existing apps other than causing a full stop on rotation once you get the desired rotation (which is what I do for apps that work better on landscape). I imagine WM configuration for this, and a shelf gadget to make it

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/7 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:33:35 + Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com said: 2009/11/7 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: no. the proper way is to set properties on your window. How exactly does that (setting a property) happen

Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-03 Thread Neil Jerram
Having just written an automatic screen rotation program (like omnewrotate), I'm now wondering about the best way of using it, so that everything Just Works the way that it should. In particular, I've realized now that - for many apps there is a preferred orientation (e.g. zhone and hex-a-hop),

Re: Understanding accelerometer data

2009-11-01 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/1 Nelson Castillo arhu...@freaks-unidos.net: Here I print a direction vector (ignoring Z). It goes from 0 to 100 (instead of 0.0 to 1.0) to avoid floating point. It updates rather fast. http://svn.arhuaco.org/svn/src/openmoko/accelerometers/dir.c If I only care about this vector I

Re: Understanding accelerometer data

2009-10-30 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/30 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: OK, I understand what was wrong with my program now.  It was reopening the /dev/input/event[2,3] file before every read. [...] FWIW, I've now added my corrected program (in Guile Scheme) to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/28 Shawn cit...@gmail.com: Ah, the happy conjunction of my main free software interests...  (I'm one of Guile's maintainers.) wowo~it's pleasure to meet you here dude~ Likewise! checking for lt_dlinit in -lltdl... no configure: error: libltdl not found.  See README. OK, this

Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/28 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: Why do all of you insist on using scrolling as the only metaphor to present excerpts of large content? Given the physical size of the display and the hardware constraints (touchscreen jitter, for a start... not going to comment on the

Re: [QtMoko] Call quality

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/29 Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com: I'm not sure if this is characteristic of QtMoko or just bad luck call quality, however my previous experience with SHRU was fine. I wonder how all the distro guys decide what state files to include. Surely we don't need each distribution

Understanding accelerometer data

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
I'm struggling to understand my accelerometer data. Here's what I see, opening and reading the /dev/input/event[2,3] files every 4 seconds, when my FR is flat on its back on the table. (event2 -36 54 198)(event3 -72 108 234) (event2 -36 54 198)(event3 -72 90 234) (event2 -36 54 198)(event3 -72

Re: Understanding accelerometer data

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/29 Michael Tansella michael-tanse...@gmx.de: If the Freerunner is not moving (x^2+y^2+z^2)^(1/2) must be g. The values of the freerunner are in mg so it must be 1000. Your values are really strange. Do the x values never change? Not never, but they do seem reluctant to change. For

Re: Understanding accelerometer data

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/29 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: It's certainly possible that I've just written my program wrong.  So yes, I'll try that script too. OK, I understand what was wrong with my program now. It was reopening the /dev/input/event[2,3] file before every read. It appears

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/28 Shawn cit...@gmail.com: I have used the cross compiler arm-linux-gcc to compile guile but failed in Ah, the happy conjunction of my main free software interests... (I'm one of Guile's maintainers.) libtool problem. I tried compile 2 versions of guile(1.4 and 1.8.7) but got same

Re: Multiple Distro's..

2009-10-26 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/26 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: It is very easy to run two: one on the internal flash and one of the first partition of the SD card, with Qi as the NOR bootloader.  Then pressing the power button alone will boot the SD distribution

Re: My python + e program freeze after suspend

2009-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/24 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Can somebody try out, and confirm? It is pretty sad, nobody had 2 minutes to try it out. I'm sorry... I am planning to, but haven't had time yet...

Re: Multiple Distro's..

2009-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/24 Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com: Hi guys, I'm expecting my Free Runner in a day or two I wish to know as to how many distributions can I Run side by side , It is very easy to run two: one on the internal flash and one of the first partition of the SD card, with Qi as the NOR

Re: [debian/fso] zhone+fso-abyss: some log snippets

2009-10-19 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/19 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: fsousaged. Apparantly something gets wrong along the code path. Please give me a link to the very image you have been testing this with, so I can try to reproduce this problem. no image, as there are no debian images. I guess you could make a

Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com: Hello; I was thinking about storing my contact list online. I don't feel comfortable giving my contacts' phone numbers to google or someone else. Instead, we can open a repository(possibly svn/git based) to store contacts online. Before sending

Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com I don't know others but I occasionally switch distros and have multiple computers. I thought different people might be in the same condition. I actually don't how many people use Google contacts, but it's there. OK, so this is primarily

Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to have reliable

Re: [debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-13 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/13 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: I've just installed Debian again, and am surprised to be experiencing some low-level problems.  Hopefully they are easily fixable. I'll try addressing the issues that I can: Many thanks

[debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-12 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi there... Is this generally the best place for Debian questions? Or is smartphones-userland better? I've just installed Debian again, and am surprised to be experiencing some low-level problems. Hopefully they are easily fixable. As context, what I'm aiming at is: - Debian - for the best

Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?

2009-03-08 Thread Neil Jerram
digger vermont dv_ml...@verizon.net writes: I find the decision frustrating. I guess I don't see why Illume and Paroli are at such odds. With Paroli's current direction it seems to mean that if I want to help develop Paroli, as it is meant to be used, I must give up using the FreeRunner for

Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-26 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/26 Ivan Shirokoff ivanshirok...@gmail.com: Where can I get jffs2 file? I've found only jffs2. Huh? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: tangoGPS 0.9.5 is out

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/25 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: ps: please cut the mail to the necessary minimum when replying. Sure, didn't realise it was an issue. Is it for bandwith/storage, readibility or something else? well, it is a tad annoying -- to have mail that stretches over several pages with

Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/25 wp wpmaill...@gmail.com: I'm using shr-unstable aswell, but from 13th january. Newer versions have not working gsm, and have that very annoying issue program crashed and left no error log when accesing contacts or messages. I'm flashing every new images to see if it is solved,

Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/25 wp wpmaill...@gmail.com: Well, it's as I said: gsm is not working for me and these programs still crash. Maybe it's because of my provider, dunno. Since writing what I wrote earlier, I've had one of those crashes too, when writing a message. I think it was when I tried to switch

Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/25 Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl: until I tried to start numptyphysics (meaning I could send and receive calls without any issues, and they were echo-free). After starting numpty, the neo crashed badly i.e. screen not responding and filled with different colors vertical

Re: Over-quoting (was: Re: tangoGPS 0.9.5 is out)

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/25 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: The right client could handle that for you; as Google Mail (for example) does. Are you serious? Quotes are needed to remember context but you suggest to quote the whole mail with no apparent reason

Re: tangoGPS 0.9.5 is out

2009-01-25 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/25 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: The right client could handle that for you; as Google Mail (for example) does. But gmail is proprietary software so it doesn't count :-) That is a good point, which I think I've been ignoring

Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-24 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/24 Michael Sheldon m...@mikeasoft.com: You can speed up scrolling by switching to the Software_16 engine (Spanner - Advanced - Engine) and reducing the framerate to around 15 I'm probably being stupid, but I don't see any Advanced option in the dialog that comes up after touching the

Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-24 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/24 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz: You can speed up scrolling by switching to the Software_16 engine (Spanner - Advanced - Engine) and reducing the framerate to around 15 I'm probably being stupid, but I don't see any Advanced option in the dialog that comes up after touching the

Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-24 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/23 ezuall ezu...@gmail.com: Thanks for that, I will give that new SHR distro a try this weekend. I am trying SHR-unstable now. I called my wife today, and she said something like ah, at last, a normal sound. She confirmed that the echo was much reduced; there was still something there,

Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-22 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/15 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Correction: apparently I do still have a bad echo. No one had mentioned it for a while, so I thought it was fixed

Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/16 Tha_Man jeroenb...@hotmail.com: Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Neil What version of H1 are you using? Rev 2 Regards, Neil

Re: Pub meet: Cambridge, UK, 30.1.2009

2009-01-16 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/16 Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net: Andy Kilner wrote: Not trying to usurp the thread but nothing happened with the plans to have a london meetup. Should we just go to this one instead or would anyone be interested in holding one of our own? Unfortunately I won't be able to

Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-15 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr: Hackable1 is echo free no ? (personnaly i have no echo) I also have no echo with H1. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/14 john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com: OK, it was a integration problem between the keyboard and my chair. :-) I haven't heard that one before! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [2008.12] problem flashing u-boot

2009-01-10 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/10 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: this command line: ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D uboot.bin yields dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... That (0x:0x) doesn't look promising.

Re: runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-09 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/9 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: ... the CPU time is easy to read as: while true; do ps --no-heading -C events/0 -o time | awk -F : '{print $1*3600+$2*60+$3}' sleep 600 done Sorry, but I couldn't help feeling amused here by the fact that we have a different definition of

Re: Newbee need direction

2009-01-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/7 Robin Häggqvist robin.haggqv...@gmail.com: Hello Im a newbee. And would love some help to get in the right direction. I have looked in to pascal(not very useful but good fun) and java(really basic) when I was in school but that was a few years ago. Im most intrested in developing

Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2

2008-12-31 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/30 john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com: The Neo registers (using linphone) with the PBX and I can see the registration happening but then there is a REQUEST NOTIFY coming from the PBX to linphone. Linphone responds with a 481: Subscription does not exist. I've attached this interaction in

Re: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur

2008-12-31 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/29 Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net: I don't want to get into a pissing contest here, but the truebox price includes VAT, I bought mine from them at that price back in the summer. Unless somehow I managed to avoid paying VAT or just forgot to look at the actual price...

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/29 Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: Note, however, that I would most always use 0207 or 0208 xxx yyy Need one more y there: 0207 or 0208 xxx . for London numbers - I personally would not use 020, or group the 7 or 8 with the next set of digits. This is probably because I

Re: [Pkg-e-devel] [debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

2008-12-22 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/22 Albin Tonnerre albin.tonne...@gmail.com: There are no e17 packages in unstable (not in the debian archive, I mean) except eet. Maybe you're getting your packages from a third-party repository ? We put the image loaders and savers in the same package as libevas: libevas0, so

Re: [debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

2008-12-21 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/22 Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org: I don't know the details, but in any case you might get more inforation by either filing a big against e17 (using reportbug), or writing the pkg-e team (CC'ed). Thanks. For the moment I've moved on to playing with hackable:1, but I'll do this

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-19 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/19 Andreas Pokorny andreas.poko...@gmail.com: Lets add another information layer to open street map, containing discovered or already-tried-but-failed wpa-keys. Then each gta03 synchronize with the current state of your home town and start trying some new keys in the neighbourhood as

[debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Jerram
I noticed that there are now e17 packages in debian unstable, and that these include -dbg packages. Since my current e17 (from the enlightenment-all-in-one deb that someone put together) always SEGV's on startup, and since Raster has asked for backtrace with symbols when that happens, I thought

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: Right now there are a couple of things which are not yet in a package, most notably the X session start. But for a clean future development it is a necessity that everything sits inside a package and then you can update directly from debian.

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Hi, I am asking me if it is not possible to get an acustic 'empty battery' warning some time before my phone really get's down. Is there a way to do this ? Qtopia 4.3.2 on FR does it, so I guess there must be a way. Neil

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com: Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. Sounds cool! So, given that I

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:56:46 +, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Mateusz Skowroński sko...@gmail.com: Hi, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_find_out_what_version_of_hardware_I_have.3F Many thanks; I don't know how my googling missed that! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. Tried

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread Neil Jerram
Not to deny or minimize anything that others have said in this thread, but just to provide a balancing data point... I personally had excellent service from TrueBox. No problems, and always courteous emails. I hope they will quickly make amends in ankostis' case, and I also hope that they will

Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/2 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 09:29:48PM +, Neil Jerram wrote: Apologies in advance for what may be a dumb question - but does this statement represent the conclusion of your team's work on audio issues (buzz/echo/hiss etc.)? Or is there further work

Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/2 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: buzz / echo / hiss... no software change can fix buzz. It's baked into the hardware and you will have to do fairly extreme meddling with your soldering iron to impact it. Thanks, I hadn't seen that so clearly stated before! (i.e. that buzz is known to

Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-07 Thread Neil Jerram
Oops... 2008/12/7 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK, but do you need to be so imprecise about this? What can't there be a definitive solution? What should have been why. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

How to wear the headphones?

2008-12-05 Thread Neil Jerram
I find that the headphones quickly fall out of my ears. Is this a health feature, or am I doing something wrong? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: How to wear the headphones?

2008-12-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/5 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/12/5 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: aren't there spare ear pieces with different sizes? I thought so at first, but on closer examination, they all appeared to be the same size... (I assume you mean the flexible rubber-like bits

Re: How to wear the headphones?

2008-12-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/5 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 05 December 2008, Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/12/5 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/12/5 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: aren't there spare ear pieces with different sizes? I thought so at first, but on closer examination, they all appeared

[debian/e17] Noise on receipt of SMS

2008-12-02 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi there, Running debian and e17... occasionally I get a strange (but nice) noise from my phone, and I've just managed to correlate this with someone sending me an SMS. But I don't see any message appearing in the Zhone UI - where should I be looking? If I reboot into Qtopia, the new message

Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/30 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Echo: Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models. However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your neo. My way is to adjust control.4 Speaker

Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-25 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/23 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: it's atypical. trust me. i do NOT like segv's! if i see them, i hunt them down with vengeance. the problem is reproducing them and getting a sensible backtrace and possibly getting it to do the same in valgrind so i can pinpoint the

Re: [Debian][OM2008][FSO] Found an easy solution for universal right- and middle-click

2008-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/23 Paul Fertser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, everybody! I think i found a universal (not only GTK) and easy (without special tslib drivers) solution that should work on any X-server. I just added to my fbpanel two icons to launch xmodmap -e 'pointer = 1 2 3' and xmodmap -e 'pointer = 2

Re: [Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die...

2008-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/23 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I must admit I had just started the upgrade command and went off to do different things... I've seen this too. But in my case I was OK again after a reboot. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/22 Anton Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: He, actually you're right.. I withdraw that remark.. It's OK hardware, but with an excellent aesthetic design, and an innovative UI. A UI that would not have been possible if the multi-touch hardware was not in place. /Anton On Sat, Nov 22,

Re: [Debian][OM2008][FSO] Found an easy solution for universal right- and middle-click

2008-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/23 Paul Fertser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's an ugly hack to do what you suggest: bash -c 'xmodmap -e pointer = 2 3 1; /root/bin/waitclick.sh; xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3' where /root/bin/waitclick.sh: #!/bin/sh input-events 1 21 | ( grep -q -m 1 released kill $$ ) I couldn't find a

Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/23 Jesus McCloud [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rocks! compared to my xfce dekstop i now DO see what raster meant (desktops on diet) I'm liking it too, definitely has immediately become my default, replacing trayer+openmoko-panel-plugin. I especially like - the and buttons for switching apps

Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/23 Bernd Prünster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: do you really care about segv ? this si not a debian issue, e17 is still in development, but the recovery option is flawless (just my experience, but ALWAYS worked and it doesn't take more that a few seconds, so you can still answer a call if this

Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5

2008-11-13 Thread Neil Jerram
On 11/11/2008, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - used kill to kill the old running version i experienced that sometimes myself, too. kill seems not to be the best way. looks like some cleaning up is not done and the frameworkd is left in confusion. restart frameworkd completely and

Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5

2008-11-11 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/5 Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My GSM icon is indicating off, even after I got notification windows correctly indicating my provider (T-Mobile) and a reasonable-sounding signal strength... I just updated to the latest version and now it is exiting after producing the attached output

Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?

2008-11-07 Thread Neil Jerram
On 07/11/2008, Glen Ogilvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent Marcus an email on Monday and have not heard back, so figured he must be busy or on holiday.. or have a spam filter that does not like me :). So was just wondering if anyone here happened to know of a repository for it. You could

Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973

2008-11-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/5 Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: not relevant because debian doesn't use xglamo. At the moment it uses For some odd reason, the recommended install doesn't use it, but the OpenMoko wiki does mention that it's a good idea to install it. I hope Debian users all use xglamo, since

Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5

2008-11-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/5 Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks, after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. Thank you for working on this, it's really useful! * new battery-icons I'm not sure I like the new icon better, but I

Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/4 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my personal view... I disagree. I'm not much interested in the Android

Re: Determine Distro?

2008-11-03 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/1 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner from the command line? As a rule, it's more robust to detect the particular thing (library, application, header file etc.) that you're interested in, rather than detecting the

Re: [Debian] sound programs.. no sound from VLC

2008-10-30 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/30 Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've installed Audacious, Noatun, Sonata, and VLC. Audacious is the only player I've been able to hear sound from, but it skips, and very frequently! Noatun will not play my music, and Sonata won't add my music to its library even though I redirect

Re: [Om2008.9] GPS pre-fetching maps from openstreetmap.org

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/29 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there somehow I structured way to pre-fetch maps without using tangoGPS and go virtually to the area and walking around there on the touch pad? I mean, can I say I wanna have the area with the coordinates X1-X2-X3-X4 and store them with zoom

[debian/zhone] Start up customization

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
As they stand, I don't believe the zhone startup files support user customization. Such as (in my case) starting up fbpanel and openmoko-panel-plugin. Of course, you can change conf files under /etc, but then you'll have a conflict to resolve on next upgrade. I think what could work is - in

Re: [debian/zhone] Start up customization

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/29 Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what you describe has already happend, ans is renamed to nodm (for no display manager). It is basically zhone-session, with all zhone-specific parts removed. And it does indeed just start ~/.xsession (if no desktop environment is installed),

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-23 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/22 clare johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beware: http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/7019/New-subscription-plans-Clarification-and-even-better-pricing.aspx (And never mind the content, just the .aspx is a strong hint of what we need to know.) Neil

Re: trouble connecting via wifi

2008-10-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/17 Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What step am I missing? It does detect my access point because i can see it's mac address in iwconfig but all packets are dropped when I try to use ping my access point. iwconfig eth0 mode managed channel 1 iwconfig eth0 essid madwifi ifconfig eth0

Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience

2008-10-16 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/16 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here are my desired clients I want to develop: - Emacs phone services on top of dbus Hey, me too! Can we share / help each other out? That said, all I have so far is an attempt at an Emacs soft keyboard (attached). It's very clunky and basic right now, but I

Re: LED notification

2008-10-10 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/9 Jason Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What I think I didn't communicate very well is: 1. phone is in suspend mode. 2. GSM wakes phone for sms notification 3. screen blanks after timeout 4. LED blinks while phone is not in suspend. Would that be a possible solution? I think I

Re: Cannot ssh to Freerunner

2008-10-06 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/6 Nicolas Linkert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.101 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.100 dns-nameservers

Re: Where is the SD card...

2008-10-03 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/3 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now I only have to figure out why I can't ssh to the FR anymore. (FR can't ping to desktopmachine, while desktop does ping FR ;-) Always more fun. Sounds like routing. If you mean over Wifi, and your wireless network is 192.168.0/24 (as mine is), the routing

Re: [debian] going to install - hints?

2008-10-02 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/10/2 Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and what about the boot speed-up script: is that useful? Sorry, I haven't tried that, so can't say. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

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