Re: Myth Busting FTW

2007-09-28 Thread Richard Franks
On 8/31/07, Mike Hodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Where on any official blogs/websites have you seen the OpenMoko team > or FIC say that they were making an "iPhone killer" or "anti-iPhone?" It looks like Apple have beaten FIC to the punch anyway: http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/70

Re: Myth Busting FTW

2007-08-28 Thread Richard Franks
Heh! It's an Apple fan site, so you can't expect any attempt at objectivity - as the forum following up the article shows: http://roughlydrafted.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=290&page=1#Item_0 Given that Apple fans already have the phone of their dreams, it is quite the compliment that they

Re: Neologics

2007-03-07 Thread Richard Franks
On 3/7/07, Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is interesting to see the larger ambitions of the project. It might also help to expand upon what types of devices could be constructed with this logic, in addition to neo1973. I'm thinking remotes, media players, watches, etc... What if y

Re: Neologics

2007-03-06 Thread Richard Franks
I found the section on emergence/Neoforms _very_ interesting - I've recently been expanding upon this ( http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Ideas/ConceptualFramework ) from which I've going down similar lines of thought - do you have more ideas about Neoforms? Richard On 3/1/07, Sean Moss-

Re: Wiki is open

2007-02-14 Thread Richard Franks
On 2/14/07, Piotr Duda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and so bugzilla: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/ and also: svn co http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk trunk :-) Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmo

Re: Wiki is open

2007-02-14 Thread Richard Franks
On 2/14/07, Tomasz Zielinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It looks like http://wiki.openmoko.org is open to public :-) Neat! http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/ is now open too - should be enough info to chew upon for a while :-) Richard ___ OpenMoko comm

Re: OpenMoko / FIC Neo1973

2007-02-05 Thread Richard Franks
On 2/5/07, denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello! Yeah I know that. But don't you think it would be useful to offer interested users, that heart from others something about the phone, more easy to access content? Most of the official knowledge/content is already on the openmoko website and th

Re: Hint for all webmail-user Re: Hint for gmail-users: How to mute a conversation

2007-01-28 Thread Richard Franks
I do not think that we should encourage or advocate considerate subscribers to leave, due to the actions of inconsiderate users. Richard On 1/28/07, Declan Naughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can also unsubscribe from the list @ https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community :) Oth

Re: OMG wiki license

2007-01-27 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/27/07, Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see a legal case being made out of this. Right, but better to protect ourselves. Also, companies, like FIC/OpenMoko have to take every precaution. So, if we want our content included, we need to be cautious as well. Agreed - but I

Re: GNU discussion

2007-01-27 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/28/07, Corey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BSDL contains an inherent self-destruct gene, GPL contains a built-in propagation gene. And Non-Free Software contains a built-in propagation gene which cannot evolve its medium (technology) as quickly as the license-gene for Free Software can. But

Re: GNU discussion

2007-01-27 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/27/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: More importantly (and very relevantly to this list) you can't compete for consumers on a basis of "Not as good, but _more free_." If completely open phones are going to achieve any sort of dominance, then the same kind of work will have to

Re: GNU discussion

2007-01-27 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/27/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well you managed to miss the point of my *metaphor* (not straw man), even though I spelt it out for you: "The point is real "freedom" is measured on a "whole picture" basis, not on an individual basis." A metaphor is simply a linguistic mod

Re: OMG wiki license

2007-01-27 Thread Richard Franks
of that work if we go that route. Richard On 1/27/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/27/07 3:26 AM, "Jon Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:21 +0100, Harald Welte wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 07:29:47AM -050

Re: Unified Profile Management

2007-01-26 Thread Richard Franks
> Example. Instead of a calendar app just muting the phone when in a > meeting (nice feature) it would activate a profile (maybe "silent" or > "meeting"). Other apps could also use those profiles. For instance a > GPS location aware app could know to use the same "silent" or "meeting" > profile

Re: OMG wiki license

2007-01-25 Thread Richard Franks
IANAL (or a hobby lawyer!) but I think if someone has contributed to the unofficial wiki without checking for a license, and without specifying their own license... then there is no copyright issue as the contributors have implicitly put their words into the public domain? At least, I think it wo

Re: Ready For Prime Time?

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/24/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What about the multi-point touch screen? It's wonderful, but doesn't Apple have a patent on that? I would have thought that whoever owns copyrights for Star Trek should win prior art for multitouch - the software UI for the transporter conso

Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 22:58 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: > Jonathan, > > Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make > a sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned > this: > * http://projects.openmoko.org/ -- for user-contributed projects <--

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:59 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > "Threat to unregister" I never knew you considered me to be such a > valuable asset. I posted pretty much exclusively to the GNU/Linux or > Linux related threads. The point of a community is that everyone has something to contribute. >

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement > > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation > > for Ubiquitous Computing - I think he's right, but this positive message > > was compl

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote: > On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation > > instead? > > So freedom has nothing to do with it? > > I wouldn't be

Re: Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote: > Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely... I wondered about that before posting, but I found this link, so it looks like options may be available.. although I gather the standard approach is to have the manufacturer ne

Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:33 -0600, Paul Jimenez wrote: > How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for > 'mommy', 'daddy', etc ? Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures? Nice idea - I see where you're going with this, not making it too complex.. for slightly

Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
The distinction may become more relevant if you get hit with a cease and desist - "YouTube has blocked a small company from making YouTube videos available on mobile phones": http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/youtube_blocks_mobile_video_encoder/ If we have a browser with Flash support capab

When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, "Dave Crossland" wrote: > Hi Sean, > > On 23/01/07, David Ford wrote: >> You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states >> "in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU." He also >> clearly stated "We'll just call it OpenMoko." > > Co

Re: Idea: Desktop wakeup on user proximity

2007-01-23 Thread Richard Franks
ses: 1) GPS location looks like I'm a few minutes from the office on a workday - start coffee machine through a relay. 2) Need Insurance $$$ - start coffee machine through a relay, repeat Richard Richard Franks wrote: > So when I walk into my office in the morning my computer wakes the

Idea: Desktop wakeup on user proximity

2007-01-23 Thread Richard Franks
So when I walk into my office in the morning my computer wakes the monitor and logs in, opens up a browser with slashdot, etc. So when I walk towards my house at night, my computer is already cuing up some music for me. Detection could be via GPS/data connection, but in many workplaces, bluetoot

OpenMoko-ID

2007-01-23 Thread Richard Franks
Will we have something like this? Do we want something like this? It could be useful for contact-sharing, authentication, access to services on the OpenMoko site, keeping track of gaming friends, referencing file/data resources on the users home 'or otherwise' machine etc. Richard _

Re: an idea: GPS blog?

2007-01-23 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/23/07, Dean Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The big problem with a lot of these applications being suggested is it will require back end servers to store the data. I'm yet to see anyone suggest "SAAS" pricing models for FIC applications on a monthly/annual basis or is everyone on this l

Re: an idea: GPS blog?

2007-01-23 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/23/07, Oleg L. Sverdlov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Videoblogging has its niche, but how about a small application that remembers where you've been during a day , and how long; and then visualizes everything in form of nice coloured curves, and publishes to your blog? I'm definitely lookin

Buttons

2007-01-23 Thread Richard Franks
There seems to be a bit of confusion about the references to "2 additional buttons", and how they may be used. 1) Are they simple microswitches, or something else? 2) Will they have hard-wired functionality? 3) Does OpenMoko have standardised usage models for them - e.g. power/profile selection?

Re: built-in scripting languages

2007-01-22 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/22/07, Derek Pressnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a different (but related) track, I've always wanted to have a web browser that was capable of executing local cgi scripts without the need for client-side http server. Pah! Internet Explorer has had that for *ages*. But for non-windows,

Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

2007-01-22 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/22/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It simply never ends, does it? One can hope :-) Next time I get another argument on this subject in my inbox, I'm going to simply email this back-to-sender, not the entire list: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Debate-GNU-Linux

Re: WiFi

2007-01-21 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/21/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What is the rationale behind the exclusion of WiFi? The long and short of it is that there's no sufficiently low-power WiFi chip available which has an open driver, or at least there wasn't when the hardware design got nailed down. It's t

Re: Free Your Phone

2007-01-20 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/20/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And the more people who are aware of Free Software (as opposed to simply open source software) and its significance, the more likely Free Software will prevail and people will continue to benefit from it. I agree, and I agree that this wou

Re: Free Your Phone

2007-01-20 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/20/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was requesting that FIC's full title for the system replaces "Linux" with "GNU/Linux" for the good and clear reasons that we are familiar with, if it includes that name at all. "Linux" as a marketing phrase is very well-established, "GNU/L

Re: is google.com down?

2007-01-18 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/18/07, Bryan Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The community archives online are not easily searchable and not the > best way to get a definite answer. Gmane to the rescue! http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.openmoko.general Nice! Thanks for the link! Richard _

Re: is google.com down?

2007-01-18 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/18/07, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, It seems google.com is down, since a a great deal of topics posted to the list can be answered by spending 2 minutes google-ing. Please, do some research before wasting our time. If there was a central source for up-to-date information pub

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

2007-01-18 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/18/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S.: Thanks for finally realising that it is better if you drop > the debate about including wifi in the first generation device. Be > it whether the fundamental point people having been trying to make > to you, got through, or because you

Re: Wish for 2nd generation Neo: USB 2.0

2007-01-18 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/18/07, Sven Neuhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While you're at it, please include some kind of hardware graphics acceleration to speed up video playback and maybe allow cooler games... I quite like the idea of the display being in system memory for games - quick pixel read times allow for

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

2007-01-18 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe too many cooks spoil the stew, which is often a problem in open source, in my opinion. Its also often also a problem inside corporate development efforts. When there is no clear and absolute leadership, product design suffers. This is

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

2007-01-18 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now I am not saying open source isnt great. But from your *average* users perspective I would love to hear the advantages of the open source for these devices. Is this just a geek issue? It seems like most of the apps described on this list cou

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

2007-01-17 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/17/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The reason is neither of them have VoIP via WiFi. Who do I talk to ask them to include WiFi connectivity with the OpenMoko? I'll sell my body parts to get hold of such a device. Why does no organisation (even Apple) seem to get it that the

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-17 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/17/07, Stuart Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a games programming student I see alot of potential for games on the touchscreen phones. Although there are no buttons (or none we can really use for the games) Assuming that the placement of the two buttons is suitable.. unless they both h

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/16/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unless your game can be controlled with a touchscreen, you won't like it as gaming device. I've got a mockup I did for a Gravity Power port I've been putting off for too long: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/359950380/ With

Re: Non-gprs Internet access options without wifi (cel-dialup)

2007-01-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/13/07, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyhow, I've been thinking about it, and at 9600 baud or whatever it wouldn't be worth bothering with. I think what I'll do is build a little pocket sized battery powered usb hub with an attached usb 802.11 dongle. While I'm at it, I'll probably put a

Re: Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/11/07, el jefe delito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/11/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a year after release we will probably have two things: > 2) A Neo (released or in the works) which can provide all the 'eye > candy' decoration to

Re: suggested development toolkit for games?

2007-01-11 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/10/07, Sven Neuhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Franks wrote: > In terms of retro gaming though, it's the perfect platform for 2d games: Unfortunately, in the last 4 years of using a Sony Ericsson P800 phone I've learned that there're only a handful of decent

Re: Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/10/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/01/07, Attila Csipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Conceptually very similar to the FIC1973, with of course the > added Apple candy and design team efforts. I wonder how the FIC1973's graphics capabilities will compare - all the slick XGL

Re: suggested development toolkit for games?

2007-01-08 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/7/07, Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wrote a game in turbo pascal a decade or two ago. if I wanted to rewrite it for openmoko, which toolkit etc. would I use for the graphics and sound effects? I'd use SDL if/when available, if not.. then there are plenty of sound/image l

Re: AGPS closed source drivers = DRM for public data

2006-12-28 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/27/06, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most likely this battle will be settled by Global Locate paying license fees to SiRF. [...snip...] communicate to GL that open specs are indeed a selling point. It seems a bit unreasonable to suggest that a company who are 'most likely' goin

Re: AGPS or: Global Locate's Marketing debunked

2006-12-27 Thread Richard Franks
Did I miss something, or are tempers actually flaring here? It's a phone, folks. But let us not make things more difficult and ugly by being immature and throwing around phrases like "arrogant jerks", and antagonising the very companies working with FIC on this project in the first place. I don'

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-18 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/15/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did I alread mentioned the idea to have a capacitor parallel to the battery? So the Neo1973 cold call the police even without battery and the simcard and transmitt the coordinates of the phone. ***g*** (of course with black screen...) Well..

Re: Killer Application

2006-12-18 Thread Richard Franks
Ses. I find that OS X gives me by far the greatest productivity of all systems pretty much regardless of the task. And at the end of the day that is what counts for me, not the degree to which I can *fiddle* with a system. Just wanted to set that straight (and get that flame-war started ;-) -- Terren

Re: Idea: Optimal noisy vibrator

2006-12-16 Thread Richard Franks
If it's anything like this: http://www.mpja.com/category/DC__Motors/6mm_CELL_PHONE_VIBRATOR_MOTOR_16053_MD.asp then it could be possible to monitor any current generated from the DC motor as a result of the phone being moved (along certain axis'). Richard ___

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 21:00 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: > A phone that sends an sms to itself every week, how is that going to stop a > thief that has > my phone + simcard? Hmm. You are absolutely correct - security through obscurity + sneaky tricks aren't going to work medium-long term. Imagine you

Killer Application (was: a lot of things)

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
Salve Rob! On 12/15/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And who think know - "nice" - but this will no "killer application for a phone" does still haven't understood that beside good core phone function there will be no single "killer application" for a smartphone. smartphone = mobil PC

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "For dessert I'd like the apple pie with no whipped cream" "I'm sorry sir, we're all out of whipped cream" "Very well. I'll have it without ice cream" [ Error whilst processing directive: 000816 ]

Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 16:08 +, Ole Tange wrote: > Apparently the Neo may be capable of transmitting ultrasound (20 KHz - > around 45 KHz). If the Neo is also capable of receiving this (using > the microphone) then we should be able to transmit data that way. This > may be useful for close range

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/15/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This mailinglist and #openmoko, but I was protesting against presenting things as actual facts, when things aren't sure. Dragging this back on-topic, you bring up an interesting example. Creating an ethic such as "information should be free", an

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/15/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: > I think any reasonable person understands that wifi/BT was left out Bluetooth left out? That's not what I heard. Really!? Cool! Where did you not hear it? Richard _

Re: Something like a Wiki

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/14/06, Alessandro Iurlano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was just thinking about the lack of a wiki at the actual moment and the waste of thoughts and energy that will go lost because nobody will probably look at all the archived mails in the list again. On the other hand, the list as it is

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/10/06, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (I also am sad to see a very logical and well reasoned position being smeared as 'religious' all the time, but I'm about to go on holiday and will reply to all that in January :-) I think I hold the dubious honour of first using the word 'r

Global Locate Ephemeris Data

2006-12-13 Thread Richard Franks
Would we be violating the license by redistributing this data, or additional data based entirely upon that data source to other Neo1973 units? I'm wondering about the possibility of leveraging off the fact that all Neo1973 units should have a very unified idea of the current time to increase the

Re: The audio IC Wolfson WM8753 is cool :)))))

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Franks
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 21:54 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > I dont think you cound go round and stick a FPGA into Neo1973 at this point > of > time, either. I took the FPGA stuff as Neo ideas - is doesn't seem that far-fetched to imagine a future model with an expansion port for a bunch of

Re: Hurra Richard! Wofson WM8753 ; ) doing distance messuring with ultrasonic?

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/12/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Doing distance messuring with ultrasonic? ;)) 40kHz example: http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/audiovis/Distance28015.pdf Interesting article... 3.3m ping is not insignificant, especially in dark/smoke-filled environments. I remember doin

Re: The audio IC Wolfson WM8753 is cool :)))))

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Franks
Salve Rob! On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 18:51 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: > Sorry, I'm not a electral engineer (student). So how hardware things are > solved will never be my excellence Please don't feel the need to disclaim your experience - those of us who went to university were all students once too

Re: The audio IC Wolfson WM8753 is cool :)))))

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Franks
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:56 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Robert Michel schreef: > > > PS: Again, it seems that an FPGA between the I/O connectors > > and the other chips would encrease the power of the Neo1973, > > e.g. the FPGA could switc

Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Franks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Buzz If the speaker can produce 17.4kHz then it could be sufficiently annoying to any potential 'teenage hooligan' running off with your phone. Add in some remote-access features, such as lock-down, sync/wipe local data, gps/voice recording+uploading.. if everyt

Re: GSM security question, mic directly connected to the GSM chip? Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Franks
Hurrah Robert! I'm not an audio engineerologist, however a quick read of the datasheet shows input/output rates of up to 96kHz.. so the theoretical highest frequency at that level would be 48kHz.. meaning there may be room in the non-audible spectrum for comms depending upon the sensitivity of th

Re: audio link Re: Peer Discovery

2006-12-11 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/11/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 10 bonus points if it sounds like R2D2. efficient data transmission via audio mustn't sound well for the user - DTMF for transmitting your phonenumber would be acceptable, but the other modulations? Heh! That idea was intended just for h

Re: Neo1973 + PSP == wifi proxy?

2006-12-11 Thread Richard Franks
Flash). > > I think it's interesting to make a more abstract project, I mean unified > wifi/bluetooth/etc proxy for various platforms. Just another example: Neo1973 > <=> Bluetooth <=> Desktop PC <=> Internet. And so on. > > Best wishes, > Alex >

Neo1973 + PSP == wifi proxy?

2006-12-11 Thread Richard Franks
ss at the approximate bandwidth though ;-) Richard On 11/29/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/29/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh wait. You mean hosting the HTML file(s) on the Neo? By pointing the > PC browser to the HTML file on the Neo's

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-09 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/9/06, Oleg Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have an original Zaurus 5500, and it still does not support SD/SDIO in the 2.6 kernel. An experienced kernel hacker can easily write a driver, because the card is on a simple SPI port. It was not done to protest against the decision made by Sha

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-09 Thread Richard Franks
Hi Dave, On 12/9/06, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thought this blogpost from the FSFE might be of interest to the list and also relates to the question I asked earlier about how the openmoko relates to the FSF philosophy: OpenMoko = Open Mobile Communications Platform Neo1973 =

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-09 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/9/06, Paul Bohme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Would like to avoid similar again, if at all possible. Loading firmware into a device is no big deal - it doesn't link into any other code so might as well be any random opaque blob of data. Having to deal with the contortions involved when one

32bit/64bit datatype issues

2006-12-08 Thread Richard Franks
We had some major headaches with this - mostly because legacy code written for 32bit architectures tends to make silly assumptions that pointers can be cast to integers. But there also a number of tricky cases where it wasn't immediately obvious that the datatype discrepancy was the root cause. A

Blackberry Wishlists

2006-12-08 Thread Richard Franks
I haven't misposted again. No, really. Inspired by Christopher Heinys thrust, I started wondering about what actual 'average' consumers want. It's my impression that the BlackBerry currently holds the crown for the "if I wanted a phone that could also do XYZ": http://www.google.com/trends?q=blac

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
Salve Rob! On 12/7/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ?cologne I will go to cologne by train on 10.12.2006 14:12h from Aachen central trainstaion. ?cologne.* Have affair at 19:00, don't tell wife or bishop. The issues I see are: 1) The feasibility of entering all of your day-to-day

Re: Conceptual/Data Framework

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/5/06, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/5/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started coding this beast last night. Not much to see, but if it > garners any interest I'll chuck up on Sourceforge. There are still > plenty of things to be de

Re: Shiny geek toy? [scanned]

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 14:15 +0100, Markus Stehr wrote: > Argh, why does it always have to be some obscure object orientated > language? C/C++/Java are obscure? > I would rather like to see some procedual Basic, like FreeBasic or > QBasic, on this little buddy. I'd argue strongly against this.

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 08:38 -0800, Christopher Heiny wrote: > Part of my day job is to nudge (or sometimes thump) the fantasies of my own > team back into line with reality. It looks like I let that leak over into > OpenMoko, too. I'll have to be more careful about that in the future. Not at

Re: Conceptual/Data Framework

2006-12-05 Thread Richard Franks
s me think that "Beast" is a better name than not having a name, but it's all open. On 12/4/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been thinking a lot more about this idea over the weekend: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-December/000512.htm

Re: Synchronize Calendar, Contacts of Neo with Lotus Notes, Outlook, etc.

2006-12-05 Thread Richard Franks
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 20:50 +0100, Dennis Günnewig wrote: > Hey @all, > > at the company we use Lotus Notes. As I'm really interested in using the > neo for business and private purposes two things are important for me. > > 1)A software packet which enables me to synchronize my calendar, contac

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

2006-12-05 Thread Richard Franks
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 19:37 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: > Explain me - what would be the long term benefit to run OpenMoko on a > THC device in the next month? I'm not a corporate marketing-ologist, but surely the more hardware platforms OpenMoko runs on, the more credibility it will receive. >

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

2006-12-05 Thread Richard Franks
Will the OpenMoko repository contain drivers for all supported platforms, or will the drivers be distributed and bundled by the hardware vendor into a specific SDK - in this case FIC for the Neo1973? Or is that still to be decided? Richard ___ OpenMoko

Conceptual/Data Framework

2006-12-04 Thread Richard Franks
I've been thinking a lot more about this idea over the weekend: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-December/000512.html But it's probably time to present these ideas a bit more comprehensively to elicit constructive feedback. Terminology: transform - takes input, processes, outpu

Re: openmoko on other FIC platforms as well?

2006-12-04 Thread Richard Franks
Hi Koen, On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 10:59 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: > Software can't magically fix a slow framebuffer. Last I heard you couldn't > trigger full > redraws at 20fps on the s3c2410fb, so all the decoding power in the world > couldn't get you > fluid playback if you can't get it on the scre

Re: Can The Proprietary GPS Daemon Be Removed?

2006-12-04 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/3/06, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 03/12/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm happy to support open source development where appropriate. I > think in this case though, reverse engineering a proprietary driver > for something as si

Re: Can The Proprietary GPS Daemon Be Removed?

2006-12-03 Thread Richard Franks
I'm happy to support open source development where appropriate. I think in this case though, reverse engineering a proprietary driver for something as single-purpose as a GPS chip is overly aggressive. And to what end? If it is without the cooperation of Global Locate, then surely they can switch

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On 11/30/06, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the problem with doing it this way, is you'd need some way to notify > each application of all the sensors available at runtime, or you > re-compile each availability sensitive app for every combination of > sensors (having that many versions o

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 13:47 -0700, Jeff Andros wrote: > ok, I was thinking more like /dev/random pulls seeds from all the > devices registered with it, or the way that mythtv detects commercials > based on plugins, create a virtual device that returns a read of 0-255 > based on the probability th

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 11:51 -0700, Jeff Andros wrote: > > It almost sounds like we should make a plugin framework for > availability detection, with plugins for the light sensor, PIM > calendar, microphone (can we set an interrupt if the ADC receives a > level greater than X?) and so on and so fort

Re: Small evaluation, city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 20:20 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: > > any spare(ish) cycles you have I'd vote for using them to put up a > > basic community wiki - makes it easier for project ideas to get off the > > ground when there's a common source for information, not least with > > relation to the abili

Re: Small evaluation, city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 12:00 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > On 11/30/06 6:12 AM, "Richard Franks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Unless it already exists, I'll do some research tonight.. anyone > > interested in joining the coding/design effort? &

Re: Light sensor

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 09:48 +0100, Sven Neuhaus wrote: > Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > > > On 11/30/06 3:32 AM, "Robert Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> But this light sensor could also combined with localisation, time and > >> >> provile (or movement sensor) > >> >> E.g. when I'm at home and

Small evaluation, city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

2006-11-29 Thread Richard Franks
On 11/29/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey! This is the first project idea which we (the community) could > > start today and complete even before the first Neo1973 ships, without > > access to the SDK or any other data. Booya. > > That isn't true. You can start coding a a pure gtk+

Re: Small evaluation,city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

2006-11-29 Thread Richard Franks
On 11/29/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh wait. You mean hosting the HTML file(s) on the Neo? By pointing the PC browser to the HTML file on the Neo's memory, you could in effect set up a meta-refresh every second or so, or use AJAX to read files (requests) from the N

Re: Small evaluation,city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

2006-11-29 Thread Richard Franks
On 11/29/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *IDEA* Wait, because these systems support USB mass storage device - couldn't we use a normal browser and on download to a FIFO file and an upload to a FIFO to FIFOs on our server? So no local installation, nor Java support (I would

Re: multicolour multi-touch screen Re: OpenMoko/Neo1973 is pure (r)evolution :))) - do you recognized the power of "multi-touch gesture recognition"

2006-11-29 Thread Richard Franks
Skip all that, and go straight to monitoring EEG brain signals - one sensor (array), all input handled. Fashion it into a nice hat. Actually, no.. all I really want to do with the Neo1973 is get a ring-tone to do the "beep beep boop bop" from CTU/24. Now I think of it though.. AGPS/GPRS... urban

Re: [Spam?] Re: google earth - [was: Re: Another simple GPS+GPRSidea]

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Franks
On 11/28/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: however for all the towns and cities I've lived in, the actual street layouts and names don't change terribly often. Let me qualify this rather anecdotal statement.. I don't think street-layout/renumberings change of

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