Rod Whitby (MokoMakefile author) moves on to start WebOS Internals

2009-10-06 Thread Rod Whitby
http://www.rwhitby.net/blog/webos-internals/palm-pre-lands-in-australia.html It is with some sadness that I must say goodbye to the OpenMoko community, and move on to new things. My dream of an OpenMoko phone with a hardware keyboard to replace my aging Treo 650 was never realised, and you al

Re: Buzz on GTA02v5 with latest SHR-Testing, do I need buzz fix ?

2009-04-29 Thread Rod Whitby
Denis Johnson wrote: > Currently running SHR Testing from around 22 April, on my GTA02V5 in > Australia. While on a mobile to mobile call, the other party > complained about buzzing. > > 1. Could someone please confirm that this is the hardware caused > buzzing problem and not related to the dist

Re: Openmoko Autobuilder

2009-02-10 Thread Rod Whitby
Angus Ainslie wrote: > The Openmoko autobuilder is back online. It is generating > images for gta01 and gta02 devices. ... > For those interested in improving or commenting on the build > scripts used to generate the unstable and experimental images > they can be found here: > > http://downloads

FSO Milestone5 feeds fixed (Was: Milestone V blkid installation prob)

2009-02-07 Thread Rod Whitby
Rod Whitby wrote: > qhaz wrote: >> Hi, does anyone else get this error message when udate/upgrade on milestone 5 >> installation? >> >> Upgrading busybox on root from 1.13.2-r5 to 1.13.2-r9... >> Downloading >> http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-

Re: Openmoko daily build

2009-02-07 Thread Rod Whitby
>And for those in the community that would like to help. There are two kinds of >failures happening there. Some are me using the wrong git >version of qi, u-boot and kernels. I'll have to sort those out. Any of the >failures that pertain to userland ie bluez and devmen2 you could >help fix by sub

Re: Milestone V blkid installation prob

2009-02-03 Thread Rod Whitby
qhaz wrote: > Hi, does anyone else get this error message when udate/upgrade on milestone 5 > installation? > > Upgrading busybox on root from 1.13.2-r5 to 1.13.2-r9... > Downloading > http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4t/busybox_1.13.2-r9_armv4t.ipk > Collected errors:

Re: freesmartphone.org down? DNS?

2008-11-23 Thread Rod Whitby
Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz wrote: > Thanks! though downloads.freesmartphone.org redirects to www.f...org and > a beautiful 404 appears :-( downloads.freesmartphone.org is on a different server (140.211.169.169). -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list commu

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Rod Whitby
I have owned the android-internals.org and android-linux.org domains since last year, waiting for this day, and the former has a wiki already set up and available to be used for porting information (dunno whether Openmoko would or would not want Android porting info on wiki.openmoko.org ...). --

Re: [FSO] makefile - openembedded git repository not working

2008-10-16 Thread Rod Whitby
Previdi Roberto wrote: > hello, it's some days (4-5) that i am not able to update the fso tree. OE moved from a trial git server to a production git server, and the git repository location changed as a result. I forgot to update the FSO makefile to match. > when i give make update i get this err

Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org

2008-10-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Stroller wrote: > On 13 Oct 2008, at 08:13, Rod Whitby wrote: >> ... >> The state of affairs *should* be that you just get the application >> name >> from opkg.org, and then type "opkg install " on whatever >> distribution you are running (or select the

Re: Example of community manager job role Was: Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner

2008-10-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Stroller wrote: > On 12 Oct 2008, at 20:55, Rod Whitby wrote: >> If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact >> Michael directly and: >> 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself >> directly to the OM repo. This may in

Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org

2008-10-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/10/12 Tobias Kündig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. > > great stuff, found some interesting things there already > > would you be interested in turning it into a true repository? with an > entry for the .conf file for opkg?

Example of community manager job role (Was: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner)

2008-10-12 Thread Rod Whitby
M to say that. ;-) > > Cheers! > > Kosa > > - Un mundo mejor es posible - > > > > Rod Whitby escribió: >> If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael >> directly and: >> 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and comm

Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner

2008-10-12 Thread Rod Whitby
If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. or 2) Grab the patch, add it to the repo themselves (if Michael is n

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > Rod, > >> It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now > > oh great, I'm happy to hear that. > Maybe we don't talk about it enough publicly: We have an 'admin trac' > issue tracker, that _EVERYBODY_ can use to send requests to the > Openmoko admins.

Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org

2008-10-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Tobias Kündig wrote: > I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org > > It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I don't want to rain on your parade, cause it's a great service you've set up, but the problem is that .ipk (and now .opk) is used for *many* more different

Re: 2/3: What people want Openmoko to do?

2008-10-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: >>> Openmoko — how many are subscribed to your email lists? > > announce: 11187 > community: 2240 > devel: 1218 I'm surprised that the community and devel numbers are so low considering it is almost 2 years since launch (for a data point, the nslu2-linux project grew to 900

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Joel Newkirk wrote: > On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:35:12 +1030, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Anyone who has the mindset of "this is broken, how can I fix it?" is a >> developer. >> >> Anyone who has the mindset of "this is broken, I expe

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Lorn Potter wrote: > Rod Whitby wrote: >> I'm sorry, but I don't believe one single community manager can cross >> the divide between the "developer" and "user" mindsets that I spoke >> about in my reply to your earlier post. > > I disa

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Duv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My only concern here is that there seems to be a separation between the >> developer and the user... that in the community both seem to have there >> little corner. Maybe I am reading that wrong, but if I am

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > I also want to remind that community is not limited to the developers. > It should also include all users that can be used to create marketing > events and material, generate new ideas and test software and report > bugs. I like to think of the distinction between users an

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Rod Whitby wrote: > (Wolfgang told the Openmoko admins > to give me svn and git access on the 22 Sept, and nothing has happened yet). I want to make a public retraction and apology on this point. It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now, but either I wasn't infor

What should a community manager do?

2008-10-10 Thread Rod Whitby
n repositories producing packages and images for four different distributions (targeted to four different use cases) using the same top-level build system and ending up in common official feeds on a single official download site. See the following documents for more details: http://w

Re: why?

2008-10-06 Thread Rod Whitby
Detructor wrote: > and FSO and SHR doesn't have images, yet. (FSO not before spring 2009) > and nobody knows when the SHR will come with an image. FSO has released three milestone images, and also has daily build images available at downloads.freesmartphone.org - they may not be the complete stabl

Re: Building FSO Wiki page

2008-10-05 Thread Rod Whitby
Fredrik Wendt wrote: > Is this why http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/ > doesn't produce daily builds any more? (guess it's not) No, that's due to OE having a "flag day" TMPDIR ABI change requiring everything to be rebuilt from scratch on the autobuilder. I froze the feeds whi

Re: Building FSO Wiki page

2008-10-05 Thread Rod Whitby
Previdi Roberto wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > 2) if i issue a make update openembedded complains that it don't know > > where to update from... > the Makefil

Re: Building FSO Wiki page

2008-10-04 Thread Rod Whitby
Previdi Roberto wrote: > anyway, using the automatic procedure (the makefile) i have some problems: > 1) the build stops at the ttf-liberation-0.2-r2 package, install phase, > and the install log is empty This was fixed a couple of days ago. Did you run "make update" and try again? > 2) if i iss

Re: [FSO] FSO repositories

2008-10-04 Thread Rod Whitby
rhn wrote: > The testing repo seems to be down at the moment. Does anyone know why? OpenEmbedded had a TMPDIR ABI increment, which meant that everything needs to be rebuilt. I've temporarily put the old build results back so people can continue using those while the rebuild is happening. -- Rod

Re: Where are actions configured for buttons in FSO?

2008-09-30 Thread Rod Whitby
digger vermont wrote: > Are there nightly/daily's of frameworkd somewhere? There's a lot of good > stuff being done I'd like try out. Or is the way to best way to take > advantage of the new methods still using NFS or similar? If fso-image and task-openmoko-feed actually built properly in OE, t

Re: inotify-tools on openmoko

2008-09-24 Thread Rod Whitby
Joel Newkirk wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:44:34 +0100, Al Johnson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wednesday 24 September 2008, jitendersingh wrote: >>> hi, >>>Do openmoko has support for inotify-tools. >>>(more information on inotify tools on >>> http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.n

Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD

2008-09-24 Thread Rod Whitby
Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > |> That may be, but despite that I need a daily package for kernel I > |> can point people to. Actually blocking current stable kernel from > |> users by not packaging it, which se

Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD

2008-09-24 Thread Rod Whitby
>That may be, but despite that I need a daily package for kernel I can point >people to. Actually blocking current stable kernel from users by not >packaging it, which seems to be the case, is completely backwards. That may be the case, and you defintely should be able to point experienced alp

Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD

2008-09-24 Thread Rod Whitby
Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Andy Green wrote: > |> It used to be that our kernel packages followed our stable kernel git > daily. > |> > |> But the hash on that one tells it is stuck at Aug 23 patchlevel...

Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD

2008-09-24 Thread Rod Whitby
Andy Green wrote: > It used to be that our kernel packages followed our stable kernel git daily. > > But the hash on that one tells it is stuck at Aug 23 patchlevel... Yet another reason why the openmoko autobuilder configuration should be documented and published somewhere. As an example, the p

Re: Neopwn

2008-09-23 Thread Rod Whitby
Angus Ainslie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Didier Raboud wrote: > > Russell Hay wrote: > > > >> I'm assuming they're not intending to relea

Re: Neopwn

2008-09-22 Thread Rod Whitby
Didier Raboud wrote: > Russell Hay wrote: > >> I'm assuming they're not intending to release the full code? Certainly >> cant see any mentions of license or downloads on their site. > > Formally, they only have to release the source code to their buyers... ... and then that buyer can release it

Re: FSO toolchain?

2008-09-22 Thread Rod Whitby
Nicola Mfb wrote: > You may use the Makefile at http://shr.bearstech.com/ , this will setup > the entire openembedded environment to build toolchain and fso > images/applications. Note that the canonical place for the FSO Makefile is now at downloads.freesmartphone.org - shr.bearstech.com is for S

Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *

2008-09-20 Thread Rod Whitby
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Holger Freyther wrote: >> On Thursday 18 September 2008 19:05:51 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: >> >>> Ok, I was right... The latest upgrade to phonevendor plugin in git >>> blocked it [1] >>> >>> Grab this [2] and put it in /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors. Resta

Re: Porting MokoMakefile, odd errors

2008-09-20 Thread Rod Whitby
Lally Singh wrote: > I'm getting an openmoko build environment set up on OpenSolaris > (which, btw, is great). A build error is difficult for me to > interpret. I was hoping for some help. I've included the full output > below. At this point, you have left the realm of MokoMakefile, and enter

Re: What packages have cu and socat?

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
Erin Yueh wrote: > Rod Whitby wrote: >> Erin Yueh wrote: >>> Hi, >>> i use OE to build package and i upload socat package here. You may try >>> it on. >>> >>> http://cs1.cs.nyu.edu/~wcy203/socat_1.3.2.1-r1_armv4t.opk >> Since you wo

Re: What packages have cu and socat?

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
Erin Yueh wrote: > Hi, > i use OE to build package and i upload socat package here. You may try > it on. > > http://cs1.cs.nyu.edu/~wcy203/socat_1.3.2.1-r1_armv4t.opk Since you work at Openmoko, why didn't you just add socat to the task-openmoko-feed bitbake recipe, and then re-run the openmoko

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gone?

2008-09-18 Thread Rod Whitby
sparky mat wrote: > I am not able to find the FSO binaries/repository at > shr.bearstech.com. Instead, I see that SHR binaries are present. I > tried them out and there are (many) issues. There is a shr-devel mailing list on which you can discuss those issues if you have an interest in getting th

Re: fso bug/oddity

2008-09-17 Thread Rod Whitby
Tilman Baumann wrote: > And for the wakeup stuff. Well besides at there is not much of a stable > interface i guess, besides some acpi and nvram cruft. > I guess a dbus interface suits well for that. But needs to be more > abstract (register timer for callback/signal, remove timer). :) > But some

Re: Build process fails at gsm0710muxd

2008-09-16 Thread Rod Whitby
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> /home/micha/openmoko/openembedded/packages/freesmartphone/gsm0710muxd_svn.b >> b, do_fetch) > > That looks like a very old recipe, we switched to git since months. I think what's happening here is that task-openmoko-feeds has not been built lately on the Oenmoko

Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network

2008-09-16 Thread Rod Whitby
W.Kenworthy wrote: > I am having a problem registering anything ASU/FSO based with the > Australian Vodafone GSM network. Its not the SIM card but ASU/FSO as > 2007.2 works fine. I also believe that other Aussies are having the > same problem. Just as a data point, my GTA01 running FSO registers

Re: update-alternatives question

2008-09-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Charles-Henri Gros wrote: > Joel Newkirk wrote: >> Quick question, hopefully someone can instantly see my error: >> >> I've built the full iproute2 toolset, and am working on an ipk/opk for ip >> and tc. >> >> The default om2008 at least, has /bin/ip linked to /bin/busybox. So that >> should be

Re: Package python-etk-git allready has patches applied to source

2008-09-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Didier "Ptitjes" wrote: > python-etk already has the two openembedded patches applied in > python-etk git. This makes build failing during patch. Yes, this is the problem that Openmoko due to their decision to let versions "float" with regard to packages like this. It means that breakage like th

Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ?

2008-09-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Nicola Mfb wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > You should report the confusion to the bitbake developers, not to the > openmoko community. > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo

Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Nicola Mfb wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > [...] > > Everything after the '_' in the bitbake recipe name is part of the > version > number, an

Re: Wiki outdated ? was Re: Problems building ASU image

2008-09-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Didier "Ptitjes" wrote: > I just noticed that this behavior only occurs when building for the > "x86" machine. I say this if this can help to identify the problem. Do you mean x86 as a host, or x86 as a target. x86 as a target is not supported, and x86 as a host is what everyone uses, so you can

Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Harald Koenig wrote: > On Sep 12, Nicola Mfb wrote: > >> In my oe tree i have navit_cvs and not navit_svn, > > and can you start a build for navit_cvs (I'd guess for you > it's "make build-package-navit-cvs" then?) Everything after the '_' in the bitbake recipe name is part of the version num

Re: Opkg: how to protect configuration files?

2008-09-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Previdi Roberto wrote: > When i make an update/upgrade opkg carefully protect my configuration > files inside /etc, but he always destroy my changes in /opt/Qtopia/etc, > causing qpe to search for documents in all the /usr (which i transferred > on the memory card). Is there a way to tell to opkg t

Re: Wiki outdated ? was Re: Problems building ASU image

2008-09-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Didier "Ptitjes" wrote: > It seems that the Wiki is outdated. Yes, wiki's are always outdated. :-( > For example, the Wiki says you have > to make openmoko-devel-image or openmoko-qtopia-x11-image. But the > MokoMakefile version I downloaded has no such target but you have to set > > OM_

Re: Wiki outdated ? was Re: Problems building ASU image

2008-09-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Didier "Ptitjes" wrote: > OK I found the problem finaly. > > The Wiki states what follows for the local.conf : > > MACHINE = "x86" > DISTRO = "openmoko" > BUILD_ARCH = "i686" > INHERIT += " devshell" > TARGET_FPU = "" > > but the INHERIT += " rm_work" is mandatory else the bitbake doesn't work

Re: OPKG building and repository

2008-09-09 Thread Rod Whitby
o-feed.bb, will enable those packages to be available from a number of official and unofficial feeds, and also automatically comply with GPL licenses. -- Rod Whitby -- Maintainer of the fso-testing and fso-unstable feeds ___ Openmoko community mai

Re: Building FSO Wiki page

2008-09-08 Thread Rod Whitby
John Whitmore wrote: > Thanks to all who replied and to Hedora who went and edited the wiki > page. No doubt more questions may follow from me in the fullness of > time, but for the moment I'm building. I'm hoping that I can ultimately > help out here. If asking questions of Wiki pages highlight

Re: http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile - 403 forbidden

2008-09-06 Thread Rod Whitby
Russell Sears wrote: > Can someone fix the file permissions? In the meantime, you can use the following workaround: git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/fso-makefile common ln -s common/Makefile Makefile -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list co

Re: http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile - 403 forbidden

2008-09-06 Thread Rod Whitby
Russell Sears wrote: > Can someone fix the file permissions? Bearstech is in the middle of doubling the disk space available for the FSO feeds, so the site is down at the moment. I don't have an ETA for when it will be up again, but they should only need to copy about 50GB from one partition to a

Re: Building FSO Wiki page

2008-09-06 Thread Rod Whitby
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Am Saturday 06 September 2008 00:48:00 schrieb Rod Whitby: >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >>> For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at >>> least the following three entries. Example for

Re: Building FSO Wiki page

2008-09-05 Thread Rod Whitby
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at least > the following three entries. Example for the Angstrom distribution and the > Openmoko gta01 machine: > > BBFILES = "/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" > DISTRO = "angstrom-20

Re: opkg update failed

2008-09-05 Thread Rod Whitby
Giovanni wrote: > I just tried "opkg update", but I got: > > Collected errors: > * Failed to download > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz, error 404 Read the message at http://buildhost.openmoko.org/ -- Rod ___ Openmoko communi

Re: Openmoko Images

2008-09-04 Thread Rod Whitby
Kyle Bassett wrote: > Is there a reason why I can't find the ipkg utility on any of these images? > > I am using > http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/Openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080430-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 > > from automated.it , because all the

Re: Time and Timezone issues...

2008-09-03 Thread Rod Whitby
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: >> better not set TZ but do once (once after every update/upgrade?!): >> >> cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome /etc/localtime Even better to make that a symlink, then if your city ever changes it's daylight savings rule, then you will automatically get the upda

Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip

2008-09-02 Thread Rod Whitby
Craig B. Allen wrote: > In my non-exhaustive testing of FSO, I have found that daily builds > generally have significant issues, so unless you are installing a FSO > milestone release, then I would not recommend FSO. Are you using the testing feed or the unstable feed? Unstable is guaranteed to r

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-09-01 Thread Rod Whitby
Joachim Breitner wrote: > At the moment, emdebian does not support python, because python seems to > be hard to cross-compile Hmm - OpenEmbedded has no problems cross-compiling python ... Perhaps it's a bit of NIH rather than hardness ;-) -- Rod ___ O

Re: Mofi on FR

2008-09-01 Thread Rod Whitby
Shawn Thompson wrote: > Is there an opkg package for emacs? I've just added emacs (and tichy, pidgin, epdfview, microcom and midori) to task-openmoko-feed, so any properly-set-up feed for Openmoko (such as shr.bearstech.com) should have it after the next autobuild run. -- Rod ___

Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Rod Whitby
Stroller wrote: > On 30 Aug 2008, at 05:34, Rod Whitby wrote: >> Please don't assume that everyone has unlimited data plans. > > "Please don't assume" probably won't prevent developers from doing so. Nothing can prevent open source developers from taking a

Re: ePDFviewer and reflowing text

2008-08-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Nishit Dave wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Risto H. Kurppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I have installed ePDFviewer from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/21 after >>> loading all missing dependencies from the feed a

Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Julian Chu wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:57:37PM +0930, Rod Whitby wrote: > >> Will you be autobuilding from the OE git repository or the OM git >> repository? >> >> If the latter, will non-Openmoko staff have commit rights? >> >> If not, th

Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Marek Lindner wrote: > On Saturday, 30. August 2008 14:08:48 Rod Whitby wrote: >> I'm still waiting for Openmoko to decide which branch they are using, so >> I can advise people how to build Om2008.8 properly using MokoMakefile. > > The decision is made. Julian tried

Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-29 Thread Rod Whitby
Michael Kluge wrote: > At the risk ob beeing called a parrot I want to ask the same question again: > > Is anyone able to build a 2008.08 image with Mokomakefile? > > This is the third time I am asking this. I really noone interested in this? > Did I miss anything and do we now build images a di

Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-29 Thread Rod Whitby
Stroller wrote: > I thought the "standard" now was unlimited data plans. ... > You have my sympathies if you're not on an unlimited data plan, Ole, > but I would see unlimited data use as the long-term expectation of > OpenMoko projects. Please don't assume that everyone has unlimited data pla

Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-27 Thread Rod Whitby
> On Wednesday 27 August 2008, Marek Lindner wrote: >> We also >> encourage $your_project to be built by our auto builder and become >> installable on the base image. This should give you the time to focus on >> improving your project instead of building and distributing it. >> The "unstable" pack

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-25 Thread Rod Whitby
Ernst Skribbler wrote: > Rod wrote: >> This means you haven't got the >> gpschannel_add_udpchannel_and_filechannel.patch from Trac 49 applied. > > Any idea when the patches that fix GPS will be available in the > testing images? Thanks. Yes, when the frameworkd developers have a stable new vers

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-24 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > I did an 'opkg upgrade' today and the system is now: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@om-gta01:~# cat /etc/angstrom-version > Angstrom -20080822 ... > But still neither tangoGPS nor zhone gets anything, not even time, from the > gps. > > So I run frameworkd from the command line (lo

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> The connection between gllin and TangoGPS is not there on the >>> fso-test

Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Yohann (YC) Coppel wrote: > So, I can view the maps, calculate the directions, but It does not > read gps data. > I am using FSO, and apparently there is no gpsd in the repositories. gpsd is installed in the GTA01 fso-testing image at shr.bearstech.com, and navit is also in the fso-testing feeds.

Re: Which distribution to start with? - Noob question alert

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Daniel Selinger wrote: > Or should i still consider using the 2007 or SHR release to begin with > the phone, despite the fact that they are mainly based on the "old" gtk > apps which will likely be abondoned in the future, aren't they? There is no SHR release yet - do you perhaps mean ASU/Om2008.8

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973 - opkg update doesn't work

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/... You might want to change that to the actual location of the feeds ... -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/ma

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I installed the unstable image, and tried to use either the unstable or > testing feeds here, and I get: > > a bunch of: > Assuming locally installed package is up to date. > > then a bunch of: > > * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures >

Re: Tester please?

2008-08-20 Thread Rod Whitby
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> http://newkirk.us/om/dnscache_2.1.5_armv4t.ipk and let me know of any > > Hmm, how do I build this from source? Indeed - I'd be happy to test bitbake recipes for these ... -- Rod __

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-20 Thread Rod Whitby
Kevin Fenzi (by way of Kevin Fenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Just read your announcement about the testing and unnstable FSO feeds. > > Awesome work. ;) A few quick questions tho: > > 1. How can we request/test new packages be added to the > task-openmoko-feed ? (In particular I would love

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-20 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > FYI, I just installed FSO testing (latest snapshot) on my Neo 1973. > Looks - I like it! > screen locker - I like it! > And many things work also - nice! > I don't have a SIM card in my 1973 (it's in the FreeRunner) so I can't > test phone functions. > > GPS - I have ins

Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-20 Thread Rod Whitby
is server, you should use a Debian Lenny host operating system, with the host package configuration as specified in the sources.list and dpkg-list.txt files in the server-config directory. Then copy the Makefile and 'common' directory to your build area. Read the Makefile for furt

Re: openvpn?

2008-08-19 Thread Rod Whitby
OpenVPN is also in the fso-testing and fso-unstable autobuild repositories at shr.bearstech.com, along with every other package listed in the OE task-openmoko-feed recipe ... -- Rod Michele Renda wrote: > If you want an easy way, you can try with Debian. > > OpenVPN is in repository! > > Michel

Re: Try to install MokoMake on openSuSE 11 fails

2008-08-18 Thread Rod Whitby
Lothar Behrens wrote: > The difference is that I am using openSuSE 11 instead of 10.3. Which (of the many, redundant, mostly out of date, non-executable) instructions did you use? Your subject says "MokoMake" (which I assume means MokoMakefile) but you talk below about manually installing bitbake

Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging

2008-08-17 Thread Rod Whitby
> diff --git a/packages/navit/navit_0.0.4.bb b/packages/navit/navit_0.0.4.bb > index 104495f..edd4519 100644 > --- a/packages/navit/navit_0.0.4.bb > +++ b/packages/navit/navit_0.0.4.bb > @@ -4,4 +4,7 @@ PR = "r0" > > SRC_URI = "${SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR}/navit/navit-${PV}.tar.gz" > > +DEFAULT_PREFERE

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-16 Thread Rod Whitby
digger vermont wrote: > On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 14:18 +0930, Rod Whitby wrote: >> Julian Chu wrote: >>> I am the leader of building stuff. >>> > ... >> Thanks for clearing up this problem. >> >> BTW, Bearstech have graciously donated a serv

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-15 Thread Rod Whitby
Julian Chu wrote: > I am the leader of building stuff. > > We did a release in 2008.8 then provide a stable feed. > Buidhost is a building machine that build many things with > AUTOREV. That means everything comes from buildhost is *Unstable* > > We provide buildhost for the r

Re: Is Neo1973 truly abandoned?

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Holger Freyther wrote: > PS: E.g. mickeyl is testing FSO on GTA01 as well, so it remains supported.. I'm currently working on getting gllin to talk to ogpsd in the fso framework, so I can run TangoGPS on a GTA01 alongside Zhone and NumptyPhysics :-) -- Rod (who's only working OM phone is a GTA01)

Re: spanner/wrench in daily builds (ASU) from buildhost.openmoko.org

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Yorick Moko wrote: > Is there a way to get the spanner/wrench back on > openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080813-om-gta02.rootfs > ? You'd be better off actually using the asu image, and then updating it using zecke's correct feeds instead of using that image you've listed above whic

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Benedikt Schindler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> did you update your "ASU" with the "buildhost" ? that will destroy the > > Yes, I did. AFAIK, this is the only way to update ASU with "daily > updates", unless one wants to reinstall ever

Re: MokoMakeFile

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Alasal wrote: > Is the MokoMakeFile still under development? It is, but it's difficult at the moment to get things to build correctly. > Is there any chance for flashing Om2008.8 on the qemu emulator? You can do this now by setting the branch correctly. See the MokoMakefile wiki page for detai

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Holger Freyther wrote: > On Wednesday 13 August 2008 23:39:06 Rod Whitby wrote: > >> What I do have a problem with is the current situation where buildhost >> builds a daily feed of updates WHICH ARE INCOMPATIBLE with the latest >> Openmoko Om2008.08 released image and whi

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Feydreva wrote: > Does Mokomakefile can build a 2008.8 more recent than the one release on > August 08 of 2008 ? > I setup the Makefile for > OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.testing > and run > make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image > Will I have the "fake" asu, like the one on the daily buildhost ? or

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-13 Thread Rod Whitby
steve wrote: > Rod, > > Our QA includes community feedback. If we release early particular elements > in the community will slam us. > We expect that. If we hold back releases, other elements of the community > will slam us. > > So we expect to be slammed no matter what we do. Fun job ehh? >

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Olivier Berger wrote: > Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> if not, is there a recommended update feed for Om 2008.8 ? >> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ >> >> There is *no* other feed location for Om2008.08 at the moment, and &

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Harald Koenig wrote: > in Om 2008.8 all feeds in /etc/opkg/ go to > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ Correct. That is the Om2008.08 feed. > is it ok to use > > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/MMDD/ > > as update feed for Om 2008.8 ?

Re: opkg upgrade - kernel not updated corectly - Om2008.8

2008-08-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Benedikt Schindler wrote: > it's me again with an update problem of the kernel. > i like kernels and i like to update them in a wrong way :) > > so here are my steps so far. > > Device: Freerunner > rootfs: Om2008.8 > kernel: Om2008.8 > > i installed the Om2008.8 and did a "opkg update & opk

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Rod Whitby
simarillion wrote: > I'm a little bit confused. > > On the devel List I read that the "real" ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But > where can I download it? > > I downloaded this one > > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk

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