goskodásaitokért".
ugh. so its like german. compound words get created a lot by just stringing
multiple words together without a space. that's ok- as long as there arent a
massive set of them... :)
> Hope it helps something.
>
> Best regards,
> Laszlo
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> > yeah. this is one reason i want toi understand how it works without ø, æ
> > etc. - one day there will be a phone with a kbd.. and it wont have a
> > version per l
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said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:53:26 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
> > said:
> >> However in the past days I sent you privately also a ma
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:39:52 +0200 Kostis Anagnostopoulos
said:
> On Sun 01 Feb 2009 00:31:09 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:16:57 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said:
> > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> > >
> > >
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:26:50 +0100 Helge Hafting said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:43:39 +0100 Helge Hafting
> > said:
> >
> >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:32:48 +010
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:53:26 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:59:32 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
> > said:
> >> Maybe using something like a "trie" [1] to arch
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:16:57 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:31:43 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said:
> >> But I think a dictionary format in plain utf8 that includes the
> >> n
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:43:39 +0100 Helge Hafting said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:32:48 +0100 Helge Hafting
> > said:
>
> >> I hope things like this will be possible, if a new dictionary format is
> >> realized. It
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:31:43 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:30:44 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said:
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
>
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:30:44 +0100 Olof Sjobergh said:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:59:32 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
> > said:
> >
> >> Olof Sjobergh wrote:
> >
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:32:48 +0100 Helge Hafting said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>
> > i was hoping to be able to keep a SIMPLE ascii qwerty keyboard for as
> > much as
> > possible - so you can just type and it will work and offer the selections as
of
precious ram.
making it a text file opens the gate to easy generation of new dicts - and i
wanted to keep that as easy as possible.
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e would only be useful for the ascii matching - i
need something more complex. it just combines the data with the match tree
(letters are inline). i need a match tree + lookup table to other matches to
display - and possibly several match entries (all the matches to display also
need to be in t
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scaleable. other than that the theme very much has a hand in setting the base
font sizes (relative to eachother) and the suggestions font size is the same
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> > > spaces between words, and spaces should be included as punctuation only.
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > aaah. unfortunately not. currently. sounds like japanese/chinese/korean. i
> > suspect there will need to be a dictionary optio
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on a raw flash (mtd) device. woe betide ye who did. these
days on sd etc. it's "taken care of" ... or SHOULD be. but quality... is what
you pay for :)
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s much better and closer to what i'd
have wanted :) but it will just take time.
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> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:35:22 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:28:18 -0500 Joel Newkirk
> > babbled:
> >
> >> all distros I've tested. (2008.x, FSO, S
d for information - not actions).
i need to totally fix up illume and split it up - it is still basically the
design that om wanted with almost no changes.
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ains!' :)
>
> Raster... you are my new hero. It's not the first time I've heard this
> kind of argument (Andrew Tridgell made a very similar argument at a
> CLUG meeting some time ago) and I completely agree with you.
>
> Good work on the keyboard,
tridge is an aweso
cally require a layout or dict to be used -
but hints on input. it's up to the keyboard to do what it thinks it best there.
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> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > sort -f i think does it... i think...
>
> Thanks, that seems to work.
>
> I created a package and uploaded to
> ht
pect a bug or 2 in dict matching and stopping a search too
early. again loop around back to "need a better dic format" :)
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s straight
to the app - no dict involved. thats whhy terminal.kbd doesnt go through the
dictionary prediction at all - as no keys there output a string.
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:43:35 +0100 Pander
babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:49:55 +0100 "Olof Sjobergh"
> > babbled:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm working on a Swedish dictionary and keyboa
t fields i
could think of and put them in the list. this can be expanded without problems.
> so, the application just have to send one of those messages when
> entering a field or another.
it's actually a property on the window - but yes. just asking for a "kind of
keyboard&quo
aller, sms and contact suite etc. keyboard entry just was out of place given
everything else it was doing was not related to basic "desktop ui".
anyway - i don't want to debate this. just it sounded like i sat on my hands
for 2 months ignoring everyone and arrogantly went off and just did my own
thing because i wanted to (since most of my answer was cut out). i made an
assessment - as asked. i responded with my results. i implemented accordingly
(and said i would), in a way that was able to accept alternatives.
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o some usable document! that's teamwork! i babble incoherently. you guys
make it coherent :)
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laptops/desktops - but thats just my bet on the audience).
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patent system. i'm just rattling my chains and moaning in my corner...
'brains! brains! braiins! need moore brains!' :)
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> Shashank Bharadwaj wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> > mailto:ras...@rasterman.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:46:15 + Jan Henkins
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:55:13 +1300 "Robin Paulson"
babbled:
> 2009/1/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler :
> > you do - Terminal.kbd layout - it ships with illume. i designed the kbd
> > engine in illume to allow for straight-through pushing of key presses
> >
e a lot of sense of course. the dict format does need
to change to make it a lot faster and intl-char friendly. i avoided this at the
time as i'd need to efficiently encode a b-tree in the file and be able to mmap
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they do. they have. and they have lost. patent has withstood the court system.
and that cost them dearly. google it. :)
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> Hi,
>
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) writes:
> >> what exactly is patented that could not be reimplemented?
> ...
> >> - completing a word from a dictionary based on the already available
> >
presses on a key.
> so, what does t9 do that's not available already?
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e robust for hinting if you want
keyboard entry or not and what kind of entry (numeric, password, terminal) etc.
i've laid a lot of the groundwork and filled in a lot of the boxes too - can't
expect me to do EVERYTHING for EVERYONE... but i tried to cover a good
smattering.
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ferent positions (for "forest") it searches in its
> > dictionary all the possible words.
> >
> > That's why "for" and "die" come together.
> >
> >
> > Xavier.
> >
> >
> > _______
>
e is
no obvious way to do many of these. layouts are fixed in code. it definitely
has the better dictionary code right now - that's something i need to improve.
i only have so many hours in a day though. and right now kbd is not on my
immediate todo list. the code is there for all to see - this i
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:08:41 +0530 "Shashank Bharadwaj"
babbled:
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:46:15 + Jan Henkins
> > babbled:
> >
> > &
keyboard (and the qtopia one) in normal
plain qwerty for writing notes and emails and sms's work just great - i've used
them walking down the street and i can type better on it than i can on my rokr
e6 WITH a stylus. in fact my n800 with a landscape 4.3" screen is almost
5 levels? other than being able to say "i
only get 2 bars here!" just display it with all the pixels you have available.
add something for those who must get a numeric quantifier when you click on it
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go off topic but is it possible to use matchbox keyboard
> under Enlightenment(specifically, under 2008.x of course)?
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:39:19 -0800 Vasili Sv
have been made very hard to access by system
integrators. if u want to use illume's keyboard outside of e - well you can't.
but if u have e (and the illume module) you can. it's lurking there waiting to
be turned on.
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good chance Openmoko would design a phone specifically
> > for this purpose. I still believe this device could become the icon of
> > openness.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Q8. On the other hand, Tim and others would like to know the most
> > > interesting
, is that in my language we use another word for
> space (spatie) but I would like to omit the label on the space bar entirely.
as above :)
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:00:36 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > babbled:
> >
> >
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:28:17 +0100 Matthias Apitz babbled:
> El día Friday, January 02, 2009 a las 09:12:43PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler
> escribió:
>
> > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:00:36 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > babbled:
> >
> > gah! r
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:00:36 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
babbled:
gah! replying to myself.. found out why...
you file was NOT UTF-8~ it was iso8859! no no! MUST BE UTF-8!
attached fixed file - in utf8. works fine.
now.. spank! make sure you use utf8! :) (heathens still using iso8859
me
> small version of the chars; please be so kind and check it out
> in your FR; thx in advance;
>
> I have also checked putting the values in "", i.e. like "Aacute"; this
> results in some kind of dictionary lookups;
>
> thx for your help and
eave it in strings. look at the Numbers.kbd - it has numbers and accented
chars - including acute/grave etc. versions. just leave it in quotes as a
string and it will get mapped properly.
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:08:12 +0100 Xavier Cremaschi
babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit :
> > the virtual res aspect ration determines the aspect ratio of the physical
> > kbd - so make the virtual res taller and it will get taller.
> >
>
> If I put 7
se the height of the keyboard area, for
> example to take 50% (320px) of my screen.
the virtual res aspect ration determines the aspect ratio of the physical kbd -
so make the virtual res taller and it will get taller.
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hey dont charge you for an intl call - they know what
you are trying to do. this means you enter contacts in a full intl format always
+61 413 123456
and no matter wherein the world i go - i am roaming or in my home country.. i
can cal that person without having to know about country codes, intl dial
pre
f the number as mobiles need the full version with area code.
same in .au - for mobiles, i'm just extending the problem in a generic way to
"landlines". just illustrating the "fun" of the system. :)
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> >
> Thank you for your help!
>
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> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit :
> > as such composing is not supported. the intent is for the dictionary
> > to make
> > that much easier - for disctionary words it decimates:
> >
> > é
ering the kbd up with yet more keys (like a compose key and accent
keys etc.). remember the illume kbd is meant to be a generic usable kbd for
most occasions. of course i accept patches - but i'd prefer to keep it simple,
not overcomplicate it if a simpler solution is available (eg via the
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:54:42 -0500 Joel Newkirk babbled:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:23:42 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:07:45 -0500 Joel Newkirk
> > babbled:
> >
> >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, "W.Kenwo
h (well totally insane > 100%)
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r pocket - so your money goes from
pocket A to pocket B - now that $30 part just went down to $24. not bad eh? :)
> This is all very interesting (and sad, of course).
>
> 2008/12/22 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler :
> > less than 1/3 the cost. as best i know anyone selling pre
5% and
> bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen
> icons and using them under SHR - 256x256 png versions. (Why? Well, I
> like my icons big, but I hate them pixellated) Anyway, changing from the
> 256x256 Oxygen icons to the 86x86 SHR icons dropped me from 30% to 5%,
> restoring the big Oxy's brought me right back to 30%.
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:19:30 +0100 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > seriously dropping camera isn't going to free up money for 3g. 3g is going
> > to cost many many many TIMES what the camera does. you're throwi
why i'm not going into making the launcher better - it needs splitting
out and other stuff first structurally :)
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lay for me on my illume images, on desktop etc. etc. - so i'm on the
"works for me" bandwagon (thus not answering these as i have no 'why' as i
never saw it break). svnr37919 is the last svnr i built with OE
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yes - 3g data could end up cheaper - depending on your call rates, "free calls
to nominated numbers within the same network" plans and deals etc. withstanding
etc. etc. of course.
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:52:51 +0100 Helge Hafting
babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti
> > babbled:
> >
> >> As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a
> >>
ive compared to using fallback GPRS.
>
> Nikolaus
>
> Am 18.12.2008 um 14:48 schrieb Steven Le Roux:
>
> > more than 10 000 wifi access points. less than 1% opened, less than
> > 0,4% opened by acknwoledgement
>
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everyone else.
their software and ui's suck though :)
seriously dropping camera isn't going to free up money for 3g. 3g is going to
cost many many many TIMES what the camera does. you're throwing out the
basketballs from the garage to make room for
ikely I will buy an another
> > phone.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Laszlo
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ot the case in australia. not to mention the datarates for 3g are MUCH
> > less
> > than 2g - they give you a discount for 3g data, but for 2g, it's rap you
> > silly
> > per kilobyte. why? the phone network's 2g data setup was NOT designed for
r data and that impacts call quality and the
providers will appropriately price the service based on the network ability to
provide. so 3g is reasonable. for 2g i will never pay for it as its outragoeus.
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:23:36 +0100 "nacho seijo"
babbled:
> 2008/12/17 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
>
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:28:03 +0100 joa...@verona.se babbled:
> >
> > > I want to customize Illume like this:
> > >
> > > - the AUX
> > screen resolution have polarised opinions before too.
> >
> > I'm still waiting for the Psion 5 form factor with modern guts ;-)
> >
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:59:17 +0100 "Yorick Moko" babbled:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:54 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > i listened... i was the one who put it there to start with as i knew it was
> > needed/wanted. i haven't been doing ui&#x
ll you need - is for X to produce keystrokes for aux and power buttons. :)
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only mistake, IMHO, is to change the default file needlessly when
> you can change a "local" copy which will override the system one, even if
> the system one is upgraded.
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perfect rendition of our flash mockup" than making
stuff actually solid and work as a foundation (even if a little clunkily). and
before you say it - "eye candy" comes for free when using EFL. so spending time
on it is a bogus argument as the libraries already do this and were already
writt
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fic functionality and meaning that "makes things work". they were intended
to be there in this use case so keep them :)
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> normal m m
> shiftM M
> key 104 28 12 12
> normal shift.png
> is_shift
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> key 117 28 12 12
> normal . period
> shift, comma
> key 0 28 12 12
> normal ß "ß"
> shift? question
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rana will be merging - and that will mean
the widget set backing will then have .bb's (as elementary does already) and...
that will mean enjoy is a simple extra step away. :)
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> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 20:16 +0100, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" wrote:
> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 "Vadim, Efimov"
> > > bab
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n atm - that's on my list of things to fix. wallpaper and theme browser.
(actually were even have a whole online theme browser built in that can browse
themes on exchange.enlightenment.org and download them - used to be get-e.org
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ckage them?
you don't need a whole module - just the theme can change the clock look.
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c. as such under ICCCM this is something the wm
is free to do - not every configure request from an app will necessarily be
honored.
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> activated (in contrast to a terminal/programming one) because mostly the
> whole word gets wrong instead of just some single characters.
actually - what i need to do is have short and long stroke. short is delete 1
char, long is delete the whole word you are composing... :)
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