Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > However, also a good wifi roaming device could be interesting... is > there a way to get the SHR unstable connect to open wifi networks around > the streets? Install wpa_supplicant. Google around for how you set it up to automatically connect to open networks. You c

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > Little hacks are the reason which pushed me to buy a Neo FreeRunner :D Indeed! Other phones may have more polish. But when you find something that isn't perfect for your need - even the smallest bug - you're stuck! Freerunner tweaks are only limited by how much ti

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 15:20 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > William Kenworthy writes: > > I think you will get > 3 hours with the FR and gps - I had it on full > > brightness (no suspend and screen on) for about 3 hours - then events/0 > > Well, don't keep the screen on, that will eat the ba

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johny Tenfinger ha scritto: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:46, Francesco de Virgilio > wrote: >> Yeah! So, what are the best kernel and rootfs? > > Latest :) Thanks :) > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-image-om-gta0

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:46, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > Yeah! So, what are the best kernel and rootfs? Latest :) http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c0

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johny Tenfinger ha scritto: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:18, Francesco de Virgilio > wrote: >> sometimes freezes so it is not so usable... Yes, I know that "SHR >> unstable" pushes away the concepts of "stable, usable and daily phone" >> but... I'll g

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:18, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > sometimes freezes so it is not so usable... Yes, I know that "SHR > unstable" pushes away the concepts of "stable, usable and daily phone" > but... I'll give it a try :D But it looks like SHR unstable is now the most "stable, usable an

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've decided to try the unstable SHR to see if the power consumption is less than OM 2008.12. Could you link me the best rootfs and kernel? I'm searching for something stable and suitable for a daily phone (my needs are some calls and some trackin

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Andy Green writes: > Well, your consumption is roughly double that of Mickey's... 10h is > worth 16% of his battery and 30% of yours. What does current_now say to you immediately after resume? Here the values are I see Sat Feb 21 00:01:00 EET 2009 35812 uA Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 35812 uA S

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green writes: |> | Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 % |> | Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 % |> | Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 52 % |> | Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 45 % |> | Sat Feb 21 10:01:00 EET 20

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I think you will get > 3 hours with the FR and gps - I had it on full | brightness (no suspend and screen on) for about 3 hours - then events/0 | runaway killed it :( Thats with 2008.12, maybe FSO/SHR will

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
William Kenworthy writes: > I think you will get > 3 hours with the FR and gps - I had it on full > brightness (no suspend and screen on) for about 3 hours - then events/0 Well, don't keep the screen on, that will eat the battery :-) ___ Openmoko commu

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Andy Green writes: > | Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 % > | Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 % > | Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 52 % > | Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 45 % > | Sat Feb 21 10:01:00 EET 2009 38 % > | Sat Feb 21 12:01:15 EET 2009 32 % > > What kernel is this? I know you usually run so

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread William Kenworthy
I think you will get > 3 hours with the FR and gps - I had it on full brightness (no suspend and screen on) for about 3 hours - then events/0 runaway killed it :( Thats with 2008.12, maybe FSO/SHR will be even better? BillK On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 12:41 +0100, David Garabana Barro wrote: > On Frid

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Andy Green writes: > What kernel is this? I know you usually run something near HEAD? andy-tracking b8b36e5ec3db71d5 > What is the status of WLAN, BT and GPS in each case? At least according to my debug output they should all be off. ___ Openmoko c

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" writes: |> FYI: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime | | Was that with or without GSM deep sleep? Without deep sleep and | automatic calls every two hours the battery does

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Saturday 21 February 2009 11:33:15 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: > "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" writes: > > FYI: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime > > Was that with or without GSM deep sleep? Without deep sleep, since I'm suffering massively under #1024 (I'm the original poster of thi

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" writes: > FYI: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime Was that with or without GSM deep sleep? Without deep sleep and automatic calls every two hours the battery does not last that long: Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 % Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 % Sat Feb 2

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
FYI: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread kimaidou
Very light in fact :D Thanks ! 2009/2/20 Timo Juhani Lindfors > kimaidou writes: > > I would like to knwo if there was a gps tool which could save gps tracks > > from command line with very few memory / cpu use ? > > For OM, SHR or debian based distribution ? > > echo rw | netcat localhost gpsd

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
kimaidou writes: > I would like to knwo if there was a gps tool which could save gps tracks > from command line with very few memory / cpu use ? > For OM, SHR or debian based distribution ? echo rw | netcat localhost gpsd > gps.log is what I use. Very memory and cpu efficient.

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread kimaidou
Hi all I would like to knwo if there was a gps tool which could save gps tracks from command line with very few memory / cpu use ? For OM, SHR or debian based distribution ? It could be great to activate a "GPS only" mode wich turn off GSM, Wifi, etc. and all the librairy running which are useles

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Yorick Moko
last time i tested it (been some time) i was able to get around 8hours of gps tracking using tangogps, screen almost constantly dimmed On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > David Garabana Barro ha scritto: >> You should

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Garabana Barro ha scritto: > You should try FSO 5 or unstable SHR. > > With latest unstable SHR image, after 40 hours mostly suspended I had about > 50% battery. > > battery life is improving a lot! The GPS tracking is not a problem, since I'

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 20 February 2009 10:36:18 Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: > What the top poster is asking is when do I get 3 days of GPS tracking - > and I guess the answer is never? Don't know if the GPS chip in FR is specially power-hungry, but for example my Tomtom ONE battery lasts only 2-3 hours.

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik < rus...@codemages.net> wrote: > :2009-02-20T11:50:Helge Hafting: > > > The kernel will always be hungry when you do gps logging, because the > > processor must stay on in order to move coordinates from the gps > > chip onto a file - once pe

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
:2009-02-20T11:50:Helge Hafting: > The kernel will always be hungry when you do gps logging, because the > processor must stay on in order to move coordinates from the gps > chip onto a file - once per second. (tangogps will need more power > because it also draws a track (can be turned off) and

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Helge Hafting
Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all, > I've searched around to get an answer, but nothing... > > this is just a little question flogging in my mind since 2008.12 was > released: when will we have a lower power-consumption kernel, getting > the

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
Or of course connect it to your car cigarette lighter, or to your bike! You even get hand-crank usb chargers... Perhaps I was too negative :) - Gunnar Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes writes: >> What the top poster is asking is when do I get 3 days of GPS tracking - >> and

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes writes: > What the top poster is asking is when do I get 3 days of GPS tracking - > and I guess the answer is never? You can buy extra batteries. The USB battery http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3060 is only $14.43. I don't think this lets you use it for 3 days

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
True - but the things that improve is leaking less battery when nothing happens, either by suspending or turning off things like backlight, gps, wifi, etc. What the top poster is asking is when do I get 3 days of GPS tracking - and I guess the answer is never? - Gunnar David Garabana Barro wrote

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 20 February 2009 09:43:15 Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > this is just a little question flogging in my mind since 2008.12 was > released: when will we have a lower power-consumption kernel, getting > the Neo FreeRunner usable for 3 or 4 days (suspending it frequently)? You should try FS

Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Francesco de Virgilio writes: > Are there stable and not draining-down kernels avaiable today? Not really, we can stop backlight and extra devices but the main cpu frequency is not lowered down. See the wiki for why it is not easy. ___ Openmoko comm

[OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-20 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've searched around to get an answer, but nothing... this is just a little question flogging in my mind since 2008.12 was released: when will we have a lower power-consumption kernel, getting the Neo FreeRunner usable for 3 or 4 days (suspend