Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-19 Thread George Barta
I got a T-Mobile prepaid card in Seattle, Washington in August of this year. I don't think its 3G, and the version number is 38.01e. I was able to receive and make calls and receive Text Messages using the OpenMoko and QTopia interfaces. George On 10/9/07, Roland Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-09 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ma, 2007-10-08 kello 22:47 -0400, Steve kirjoitti: I wonder why this update can't be done in the field. Field means you. The GSM chip is upgradable by people with the necessary equipment, which will likely mean FIC, and hopefully any co-operating outlets in the future. -- Mikko Rauhala -

3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread ian douglas
Hey all, I've been playing with a Neo for a little while now, and unfortunately my current 3G SIM card from ATT has a serial number that falls within the range of doesn't work on the wiki. Yesterday I bought a pre-paid TMobile 3G card to see if that would work, and it didn't work either.

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ma, 2007-10-08 kello 11:50 -0700, ian douglas kirjoitti: Does anyone currently have a Neo working in the USA? As I understand it, ATT and TMobile are the only compatible networks here for 3G, but I'm curious what the status is on getting 3G working here in America. To be clear, the 3G status

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread ian douglas
Mikko Rauhala wrote: To be clear, the 3G status of the Neo is a resounding does not, will not. The Neo is a 2G GSM phone. Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up. Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Brad Midgley
Ian We've heard bits and pieces on this. I believe where it stands is people are investigating and the GSM module likely needs a firmware update to handle a SIM like yours. Back when it was clear the P0 needed a GSM firmware update, it was made more or less clear that this isn't an update that

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Tim Shannon
So the consensus is that the Neo won't work in the US if you just go an get a new account with ATT or T-Mobile? On 10/8/07, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian We've heard bits and pieces on this. I believe where it stands is people are investigating and the GSM module likely needs a

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Brad Midgley
Tim It seems like I've heard of people with tmobile using neo without too much trouble, but I'm not sure if that was with a current SIM you would get on a new account. I haven't seen a place for success reports in the wiki, so people will have to speak up if they have it working. This whole

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Tim Shannon writes: So the consensus is that the Neo won't work in the US if you just go an get a new account with ATT or T-Mobile? Mine works with a T-Mobile SIM (non 3G). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Tim Shannon
How new is your account? On 10/8/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Shannon writes: So the consensus is that the Neo won't work in the US if you just go an get a new account with ATT or T-Mobile? Mine works with a T-Mobile SIM (non 3G).

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread ian douglas
The version number on my TMobile SIM is 39.01a and does NOT work. My ATT SIM is listed on the wiki within the range of serial numbers that will not work. I'm disappointed that this isn't something that's field-programmable. I feel like I wasted the money buying this phone since it's just a

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Thomas Wood
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 13:51 -0700, ian douglas wrote: The version number on my TMobile SIM is 39.01a and does NOT work. My ATT SIM is listed on the wiki within the range of serial numbers that will not work. I'm disappointed that this isn't something that's field-programmable. I feel

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ma, 2007-10-08 kello 13:51 -0700, ian douglas kirjoitti: I'm disappointed that this isn't something that's field-programmable. Well, as it is the GSM chip we're talking about, you might primarily take it up with the local authorities; FCC, I believe. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
August (got it when my Neo arrived). Tim Shannon writes: How new is your account? On 10/8/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Shannon writes: So the consensus is that the Neo won't work in the US if you just go an get a new account with ATT or T-Mobile? Mine works with a

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
ian douglas writes: The version number on my TMobile SIM is 39.01a and does NOT work. My ATT SIM is listed on the wiki within the range of serial numbers that will not work. The version number on my (working) T-Mobile SIM is 37.05A. Just another data point...

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Jeff Andros
you might try swapping your sim card for one of the newer ones (somehow make it not work, I think it's like $5 to replace it and update your sim number) the one I got middle of last month works... even with the 3G fireball on it On 10/8/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ian douglas

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Though Ian's problem is with a SIM that's newer than mine... as another data point, what's the version number on yours? Jeff Andros writes: you might try swapping your sim card for one of the newer ones (somehow make it not work, I think it's like $5 to replace it and update your sim number) the

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Doug Sutherland
With ATT, formerly Cingular when 3D SIMS were introduced, initially there was different SIMS for 3G (UTMS) and non-3G (GSM) devices, but my understanding is that all new SIMS are labeled as 3G, and they work on both types of devices, at least with ATT they do. I would suggest try a new SIM.

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Jeff Andros
the numbers I see are: 71234 O 4022 sorry, I'm not sending my IMEI down a public channel On 10/8/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though Ian's problem is with a SIM that's newer than mine... as another data point, what's the version number on yours? snip -- Jeff O|||O

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Jeff Andros
sorry, I'm not sending my IMEI down a public channel d'oh... the ICCID -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread Steve
Brad Midgley wrote: Steve I wonder why this update can't be done in the field. The only cellular phones I can think of that had radio code which wasn't field updatable were AMPS phones with the firmware in (OT/E)PROMs. Surely the radio firmware in the Neo 1973 is stored in some sort of