Hello,
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, I really, really miss a backspace key on this keyboard.
Click some key and drag to left - it should work as backspace key.
On the keyboard? any key?
I just can't seem to get that to work. I click down on a
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
I noticed something funny when the PIN code dialog for the SIM card
came up: not all keys on the keyboard produce the correct characters.
On the numbers panel of the keuboard (fr lack of a better word)*,
the key row 1 -0 produces these characters:123456{[]}
All other
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Ole Kliemann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can work around this by running `opkg upgrade -force-overwrite'.
Thanks, I'll try that.
But besides this, for me the latestes ASU version has no keyboard at
all. Already posted this on the support list. So as long
Hello,
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe this is a known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1533
It occurs when the USB cable is plugged in, try removing the USB and
see if the keyboard starts working correctly.
Hmm, a bit too late
Hello,
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe this is a known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1533
It occurs when the USB cable is plugged in, try removing the USB and
see if the keyboard starts working correctly.
I was able to
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 15:04:59 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
[...]
either way - there WAS a button.. it was in the top-left corner of the
screen that was blank and unused anyway. it used up no extra screen space
and was obvious to hit. it was by far the best option available so far. if
you hack
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:08:55 +0200 Kalle Happonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
what gesture, where? how? how ill this be able to not conflict with
operation of other apps? i am not so hot on gestures - especially ones that
use up the whole screen or parts o the screen where apps run - as now
.
After all the efforts that Openmoko have made over being open, I am
just amazed that design decisions that affect everyone are being made
in secret.
I think many of us would like to contribute to the ASU, seeing as
how it's the future of Openmoko, so this would appear
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:47:08 +0200 Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Hello,
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, I really, really miss a backspace key on this keyboard.
Click some key and drag to left - it should work as backspace
running this image[1] on my FreeRunner for a while now. If
I have gotten my understanding right, this is the ASU image.
Anyway, today I did a 'opkg update' followed by a 'opkg upgrade'. The
upgrade went fine, and I rebooted my FR.
I now have:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uname -a
Linux om-gta02
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:12 +0200 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 15:04:59 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
[...]
either way - there WAS a button.. it was in the top-left corner of the
screen that was blank and unused anyway. it used up no extra screen space
and was
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:12 +0200 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 15:04:59 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
[...]
either way - there WAS a button.. it was in the top-left corner
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:16:22PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
IMO it's crazy for you (the senior developer to ASU? you're surely
the most active?) to have his hands tied by these shadowy designers
who can interfere apparently on a whim. Especially when they're
coming up
:
IMO it's crazy for you (the senior developer to ASU? you're surely
the most active?) to have his hands tied by these shadowy designers
who can interfere apparently on a whim. Especially when they're
coming up with crazy decisions that are technically poor!!
welcome
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:54:49 -0700 Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:16:22PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
IMO it's crazy for you (the senior developer to ASU? you're surely
the most active?) to have his hands tied by these shadowy designers
who
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
edje_decc (from edj-utils) the illume.edj file (enligtenment theme
installed
in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes). in the directory find the .edc
file -
edit. search for a comment string don't look
Dale Schumacher wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
edje_decc (from edj-utils) the illume.edj file (enligtenment theme
installed
in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes). in the directory find
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:01:15 +0100 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Dale Schumacher wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
edje_decc (from edj-utils) the illume.edj file (enligtenment theme
Hello,
I just flashed to ASU (again, it's fun to play around :) ). I installed
the vte terminal with opkg, and it installed nicely. Now I wonder how I
can add it to the launcher, or how I can launch it at all? I can
ofcourse do it with X forwarding over ssh, but that kind of misses the
whole
Indeed I fail to see the advantage of having no manual triggering of keyboard.
On my desktop PC, I have never dreamt of my keyboard popping out of a
drawer when it thinks I should need it...
And this morning, after my daily opkg upgrade... I rebooted ASU and I
am stuck, not even able to enter my
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 08:39:20 schrieb Kalle Happonen:
Hello,
I just flashed to ASU (again, it's fun to play around :) ). I installed
the vte terminal with opkg, and it installed nicely. Now I wonder how I
can add it to the launcher, or how I can launch it at all? I can
ofcourse do
Marcel wrote:
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 08:39:20 schrieb Kalle Happonen:
Hello,
I just flashed to ASU (again, it's fun to play around :) ). I installed
the vte terminal with opkg, and it installed nicely. Now I wonder how I
can add it to the launcher, or how I can launch it at all? I can
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 11:46:40 Marcel wrote:
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 08:39:20 schrieb Kalle Happonen:
Hello,
I just flashed to ASU (again, it's fun to play around :) ). I installed
the vte terminal with opkg, and it installed nicely. Now I wonder how I
can add it to the launcher
that ASU is not to have any manual
keyboard toggle button because it will disturb the design and/or
confuse users, so all apps and toolkits need modification to talk a
protocol to bring up the keyboard on demand (no manual controls).
that is why you need to do this. personally i think
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:39:01 +0100 JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Where are the design documents which say no keyboard toggle button
should be included, please? If one wishes to contribute code or
patches to ASU then I guess it's necessary to know this, or one will
find patches
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:39:01 +0100 JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Where are the design documents which say no keyboard toggle button
should be included, please? If one wishes to contribute code or
patches to ASU then I guess it's necessary to know
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:56:52 +0200 Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 11:46:40 Marcel wrote:
Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 08:39:20 schrieb Kalle Happonen:
Hello,
I just flashed to ASU (again, it's fun to play around :) ). I installed
the vte terminal with opkg
, after my daily opkg upgrade... I rebooted ASU and I
am stuck, not even able to enter my SIM PIN !!
Because... there was no keyboard on the screen !
I experienced this today too. It rendered my FR useless. Everything I'd finally
gotten working yesterday (VTE, Minimo, tasks app) stopped working
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:36:27PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:05:48 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On 21 Jul 2008, at 19:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
...
the problem is the designers decided that ASU is not to have any
manual
that design decisions that affect everyone are being made
in secret.
I think many of us would like to contribute to the ASU, seeing as
how it's the future of Openmoko, so this would appear to be a
limitation upon community contributions.
as such we are paid by openmoko to do what we are told to do
daily opkg upgrade... I rebooted ASU and I
am stuck, not even able to enter my SIM PIN !!
Because... there was no keyboard on the screen !
I experienced this today too. It rendered my FR useless. Everything I'd
finally gotten working yesterday (VTE, Minimo, tasks app) stopped working
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 03:39:54 Ken Restivo wrote:
Can someone document what hacks are available to bring the Illume keyboard
back, and to manually trigger it with that little qwerty button that used
to be there, in case the designers decide they don't want users to be able
to type things
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 05:32:34 Stroller wrote:
After all the efforts that Openmoko have made over being open, I am
just amazed that design decisions that affect everyone are being made
in secret.
Check the openmoko-devel/disto-devel archives from back then. Sure the
decision was made in
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 05:56:41 Jacob Peterson wrote:
Ken, I too feel your pain. I had just stated to get things setup, then I
decided to update and to my surprise, all applications requiring a keyboard
are now useless. I ended up reverting back to the July 21st snapshot for
now, but I
*Will* the ASU have a terminal app that works with the Qtopia environment?
Or is that something I shouldn't expect to work?
Take a look at qtopia.net, several applications for Qtopia are listed there
(terminal and file manager for example). Don't know if they work on ASU right
away because
On Monday 21 July 2008 05:30:09 Ken Restivo wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:20:46PM -0700, Brian C wrote:
Ken Restivo wrote:
1. It's an open platform, so it's inevitable that it will have a
terminal.
2. If it were not possible to have a terminal on ASU, then OpenMoko
should just
. If it were not possible to have a terminal on ASU, then OpenMoko
should just abandon ASU immediately.
Therefore, you should feel free to open the bug.
I'll wait to see if anyone responds with Sure, it has one, or you can use
any terminal with it, here's how you get it to work, get
On Monday 21 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the problem is the designers decided that ASU is not to have any manual
keyboard toggle button because it will disturb the design and/or confuse
users, so all apps and toolkits need modification to talk a protocol to
bring up the keyboard
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:32:47 +0100 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Monday 21 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the problem is the designers decided that ASU is not to have any manual
keyboard toggle button because it will disturb the design and/or confuse
users, so all apps
On Monday 21 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:32:47 +0100 Al Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Monday 21 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the problem is the designers decided that ASU is not to have any manual
keyboard toggle button because
On 21 Jul 2008, at 19:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
...
the problem is the designers decided that ASU is not to have any
manual
keyboard toggle button because it will disturb the design and/or
confuse users,
so all apps and toolkits need modification to talk a protocol
Where are the design documents which say no keyboard toggle button
should be included, please? If one wishes to contribute code or
patches to ASU then I guess it's necessary to know this, or one will
find patches rejected because they don't meet this design specification?
surely
Is it just my inability to find things or is there truly no terminal
application for ASU in the standard repositories?
Does anybody have any recommendations for a terminal for ASU? I tried to
get openmoko-terminal2 to run but it crashes every time.
Cheer
Scott Petersen
I think I tried vte from the repos and it worked. I couldn't get the
built in keyboard to come up so I abandoned ASU for the time being.
Since I didn't have a keyboard, by worked I mean I could start it.
Chris
On Jul 20, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Scott Petersen wrote:
Is it just my inability
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 07:56:58PM -0700, C R McClenaghan wrote:
I think I tried vte from the repos and it worked. I couldn't get the
built in keyboard to come up so I abandoned ASU for the time being.
Since I didn't have a keyboard, by worked I mean I could start it.
Chris
On Jul 20
Ken Restivo wrote:
Crap.
I was considering opening a bug report (enhancement, probably) on this-- the
ASU needs a terminal.
But I don't want to get smacked down with a ASU will never have a terminal,
it's not a supported use case closure for it.
*Will* the ASU have a terminal app
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:20:46PM -0700, Brian C wrote:
Ken Restivo wrote:
Crap.
I was considering opening a bug report (enhancement, probably) on this--
the ASU needs a terminal.
But I don't want to get smacked down with a ASU will never have a
terminal, it's not a supported
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Has anyone else had a similar experience? My SIM card works reliably
with qtopia but not with ASU or the factory image. I have an ATT 3G
71234 4002 sim card. Image: (http://www.gregbonett.org/sim.png).
I've attatched 'logread -f' output for ASU
Am Sa 19. Juli 2008 schrieb Greg Bonett:
Has anyone else had a similar experience? My SIM card works reliably
with qtopia but not with ASU or the factory image. I have an ATT 3G
71234 4002 sim card. Image: (http://www.gregbonett.org/sim.png).
I've attatched 'logread -f' output for ASU
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Sorry that wasn't intentional.
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 06:32:50PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote:
Not sure whether I missed something. I am looking for a way to import
VCF into qtopia.
I should clarify this. I mean the qtopia-based ASU.
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How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own layout
including Return but with no success.
Sven
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I am using the daily ASU image from 20080715 having updated with opkg
today. As I understand, exposure is the app to change settings like
profiles, etc...
But exposure does not start. It shows in the status line `Starting
Exposure' but nothing happens. Isn't it implementated yet
Am Fr 18. Juli 2008 schrieb Sven Klomp:
How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own layout
including Return but with no success.
Sven
strike left-to-right over keyboard
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:57:17 +0200 Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own layout
including Return but with no success.
in svn for illume there is a full qwerty keyboard layout (sorry - missing arrow
keys... i'll add them in
On Saturday 19 July 2008 01:05:54 Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Am Fr 18. Juli 2008 schrieb Sven Klomp:
How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own
layout including Return but with no success.
strike left-to-right over keyboard
Hm, then I get space instead of
On Saturday 19 July 2008 01:16:33 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:57:17 +0200 Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own
layout including Return but with no success.
in svn for illume there is a full qwerty
at 1:14 PM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed the matchbox keyboard on my ASU installation, and I love
it.
matchbox-keyboard-im - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
qtopia-phone-x11-libinputmatch -
4.3.2+git3
I need to get to /dev/ttySAC0 in order to find the hardware revision, and also
to issue my caller-ID-suppression command.
On the ASU software, lsof reports that /dev/ttySAC0 is in use by the qpe
process.
How can I shut that down so that it releases the lock on the tty?
If I just killall qpe
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed the matchbox keyboard on my ASU installation, and I love it.
matchbox-keyboard-im - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
qtopia-phone-x11-libinputmatch -
4.3.2+git3
Hi
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:17 PM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed the matchbox keyboard on my ASU installation, and I love
it.
matchbox-keyboard-im - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 04:04:11PM +0200, nick loeve wrote:
Hi
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:17 PM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed the matchbox keyboard on my ASU installation, and I love
the matchbox keyboard on my ASU installation, and I love
it.
matchbox-keyboard-im - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod - 0.0+svnr1910-r10 -
qtopia-phone-x11-libinputmatch -
4.3.2+git3+876ed02211e50547856491ad54a75299b62efe4c-r31 -
Only problem is, how can I get the apps
I'm everything but an expert (quite the contrary..) but maybe the
programmers can learn something valuable from you
if it works with some images and not with another, they might be able to
identify (part) of the problem.
It might be useful if you post some more information:
(type of sim card,
So at the risk of starting this thread back up, why does my SIM work
with two of the images, but not the others? Is it a difference in
kernels? Some plumbing between the UI and the kernel? Or a UI issue?
(Or all of the above?)
Basically, can I flash the kernel from an image that worked,
ASU works basically, but getting telephony work with it is a matter of luck.
Mostly it doesn't work at all, mostly the qtopia phoneserver eats 90% CPU..
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:05 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No ASU is a pre alpha set of applications.
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From
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 09:25 +0200, thomasg wrote:
ASU works basically, but getting telephony work with it is a matter of
luck.
Mostly it doesn't work at all, mostly the qtopia phoneserver eats 90%
CPU..
You may have one of the broken GSM modems. From my four phones two have
a broken GSM
in
GTA02.
Didn't test much GPRS, but had no loss of connection yet.
This is the same with the mature OM2007.2 images as well as with the
professionally by Trolltech developed pure qtopia images, the ASU images
the the new hyped FSO images.
Imho the OM2007.2 images are all but mature. Even ASU
have 2 phones with broken GSM
as you say), keep us honest :-)
Best Regards,
Wolfgang
On Jul 9, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Marcus Bauer wrote:
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 09:25 +0200, thomasg wrote:
ASU works basically, but getting telephony work with it is a matter
of
luck.
Mostly it doesn't work
Am Mittwoch 09 Juli 2008 10:23:51 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
This is another hardware problem which is shared with the Neo 1973 and
thus known since a year. The answer by Dr. Michael Lauer was Guys, this
is a Heisenbug. We pray that it does not occur too often in the field..
That is a very
deliberately blocked in order to pave
the way for this ASU/FSO. Even developers from o-hand who developed for
Openmoko in their freetime finally left the boat being completely
disgusted by the fact of constantly running against walls.
FSO with it's dbus-api will make this much easier
IMHO
They are paying the Trolltech folks now, and they are also paying
EFL developers.
Yes, there is a cool application for connecting the N800 to your car
electronics and see into the engine management.
Which one is that?
(just googled up carman: http://openbossa.indt.org/carman/index.html,
been deliberately blocked in order to pave
the way for this ASU/FSO. Even developers from o-hand who developed for
Openmoko in their freetime finally left the boat being completely
disgusted by the fact of constantly running against walls.
i wouldn't know about that -- but as much as i would
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
They are paying the Trolltech folks now, and they are also paying
EFL developers.
Yes, there is a cool application for connecting the N800 to your car
electronics and see into the engine management.
Which one is that?
(just googled up carman:
I've not used the ASU on a 1973, but I know I've never been able to
place calls using the ASU on Freerunner and I use T-Mobile in the USA
with the exception of the first image released.
I've always assumed ASU just didn't work.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Chris Hessing [EMAIL PROTECTED
ASU is pre alpha.
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Subject: Re: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?
I've not used the ASU on a 1973, but I know I've never
No ASU is a pre alpha set of applications.
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To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?
Hi all,
Hopefully I get my
Perfect. Thanks.
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Freitag 04 Juli 2008 05:22:48 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO?
Only some very early ones @
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6
It has slightly changed since then. I'll cook some when
Perfect. Thanks.
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO?
The ASU ones are at http://dos.jogger.pl/2008/06/29/asu-to-przyszlosc/
I dunno about FSO...
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Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:08 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Need screenshots of ASU, FSO
Perfect. Thanks.
Michael 'Mickey
See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release to sign up to
help out, or to get the images once we have something.
**Overview**
The Stable Hybrid Release (SHR) is intended to be a combination of the
FSO, some of the 2007.2 GTK software, and the ASU that provides all
Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO?
Thanks,
Michael
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Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO?
The ASU ones are at http://dos.jogger.pl/2008/06/29/asu-to-przyszlosc/
I dunno about FSO...
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Am Freitag 04 Juli 2008 05:22:48 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO?
Only some very early ones @
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6
It has slightly changed since then. I'll cook some when I'm back from my 3-day
vacation which starts now
Hi!
I wrote a review of ASU on GTA01 emulator. It's written in polish
language, but it have many international pictures :) Maybe someone
will be interested. Here is a link:
http://dos.jogger.pl/2008/06/29/asu-to-przyszlosc/
In polish text I said much about, what I was doing step-by-step
Fwiw, my take on that is @
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/
Cheers,
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-[ Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 08:25:04AM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ]
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/
Interresting.
Why not post this kind of though here instead of on a blog, BTW ?
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to QT based version known as April Software Update (ASU)?
Rasterman is the rationale, as far as I can make out.
i had nothing to do with it. i, in fact suggested to keep the
current gtk apps
as-is
I apologise. It just seemed that this change occurred without
explanation when you came
-asu-fso-tmtla/
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On Saturday June 28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to say that I find it a bit odd running X11 on a mobile phone
- a WM wouldn't be required without it - when an alternative is
possible. In fact, as far as I can ascertain an alternative already
exists. X11 seems logical to me for
as April Software Update (ASU)?
No switch.
QTopia looked interesting because it gives us a fully functioning set
of telephony applications, Trolltech GPL'ed it, and we didn't like the
fact that the only way to get access to it was via the framebuffer-
based builds Trolltech was distributing. We
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer writes:
Fwiw, my take on that is @
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/
Very good summary -- I'd really like to see the 2007.2 stack on top of
FSO...
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explain the rationale for the decision
to switch from the original GTK based OpenMoko
to QT based version known as April Software Update (ASU)?
Rasterman is the rationale, as far as I can make out.
i had nothing to do with it. i, in fact suggested to keep the
current gtk apps
I think a lot of people hate QT so much that they don't even see anymore
that GTK+ still lives and grows as before!
excuse me, but why would one _hate_ qt/qtopia?
not being their toolkit of choice, ok.
not liking the visual apperance or the way one programs with it, ok.
but hate? what poor
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Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the rationale for the decision
the development of the GTK stack in
order
to start a new stack called ASU. There are some 10.000 developers for
GTK who can start any time making software for the Neo while there are
very few developers for ASU, maybe 50. ASU is only used on the Neo ...
Am I right in understanding that the earlier
Am Freitag, 27. Juni 2008 19:02:04 schrieb Stroller:
Am I right in understanding that the earlier software stack wrote GTK
to the framebuffer, whereas the ASU required the incorporation of an
X11 server to the image?
No, the Gtk based (focused?) stack used X11 as well, using Kdrive as X
Can someone explain the rationale for the decision
to switch from the original GTK based OpenMoko
to QT based version known as April Software Update (ASU)?
As an observer, it's my impression that ASU
represents a significant architectural change
that somehow, Wham! Bang! just happened
Software Update (ASU)?
As an observer, it's my impression that ASU
represents a significant architectural change
that somehow, Wham! Bang! just happened.
Transparency is a virtue. g
Ron K. Jeffries
http://www.retaggr.com/Card/rjeffries
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Software Update (ASU)?
As an observer, it's my impression that ASU
represents a significant architectural change
that somehow, Wham! Bang! just happened.
Transparency is a virtue. g
Ron K. Jeffries
http://www.retaggr.com/Card/rjeffries
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