Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-04-02 Thread Levy
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:21, Steve Mosher wrote: > Levy, > > We are very Keen to do business in Brazil. Maddog and I converse about > this weekly on how to do a better job in Brazil. I'll work to get > Him and the disty there some parts for upgrades. Hi Steve. Nice to hear! Thank you for

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-27 Thread Steve Mosher
Levy, We are very Keen to do business in Brazil. Maddog and I converse about this weekly on how to do a better job in Brazil. I'll work to get Him and the disty there some parts for upgrades. Levy wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:50, Steve Mosher wrote: > >> We are just in the proce

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-26 Thread Levy
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:50, Steve Mosher wrote: > We are just in the process of working out those details. I've shipped > the parts to fix phones to a few individuals and disty who have asked. Have here, at Brazil, anyone? Between 180 millions of people, and a huge country, we have around 20

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Mosher
arne anka wrote: >> 3. Several individuals in the field followed the instructions and >> reported back that the fix worked. ( I dont recall any of the early >> reports back indicating issues with wired hreadset mics. Nobody tested >> it I suppose ) > > well, i asked for it a long time ago, long

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Mosher
thanks ezuall, I never took it as an attack on OM. There are some things we never counted on in building a business. Things you learn over time. Like doing field repairs. It involves whole departments and staff that are simply not present at OM. In Marketing we are only a couple people deep. M

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-25 Thread arne anka
> 3. Several individuals in the field followed the instructions and > reported back that the fix worked. ( I dont recall any of the early > reports back indicating issues with wired hreadset mics. Nobody tested > it I suppose ) well, i asked for it a long time ago, long before the buzz was fully

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-25 Thread ezuall
Thank you for the feedback Steve, Please note that this was never meant to be an attack on Openmoko, just a question that was nagging me for a while there. I really meant what I said when saying I am a fanboy. Now I have nothing left to winge about, and I've used up my last questions. Am

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-25 Thread Christ van Willegen
Steve, all, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Steve Mosher wrote: > Perhaps I can clear up some of the confusion about the official fix. > > What we have is this as a rough timeline etc. [Big snip] Steve, thanks for the official words on this. I assume (yes, I know about assumptions) that peop

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread Steve Mosher
Perhaps I can clear up some of the confusion about the official fix. What we have is this as a rough timeline etc. 1. We have Joerg's SOP. Joerg, Werner, Tony Tu and I worked to get this document reviewed and out to the community. At that point I wasnt apprised of any wired headset mic issue. J

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread Carl Lobo
> using bt means: enable bt, power on headset, connect, pray your partner > has not hung up annoyed. > :) I think a more efficient way would be to keep the headset connected to the device and play only when you get the call. My guess is that this is what other phones do...

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Fertser
"arne anka" writes: >>> - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug >> Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones, >> including the FR accessory ones. >> Probably I got you wrong. > > there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months ago -- >

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread arne anka
>> - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug > Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones, > including the FR accessory ones. > Probably I got you wrong. there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months ago -- did that refer to headsets onl

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 23. März 2009 schrieb arne anka: > > You seen Paul's comment about using internal mic in conjunction with > > headphones/headset for GSM purposes? > > yes. > but it has two (and maybe a half) drawbacks > - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Cédric Berger
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 16:50, arne anka wrote: > making a call and simultaneously doing something with the phone requires a > headset -- when a call comes in it is easy to plug in the wired headset > and off you go. > using bt means: enable bt, power on headset, connect, pray your partner > has n

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread arne anka
> You seen Paul's comment about using internal mic in conjunction with > headphones/headset for GSM purposes? yes. but it has two (and maybe a half) drawbacks - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug - someone needs to prepare a state file for that scenario -- i am incapable to underst

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 23. März 2009 schrieb arne anka: > > Yes, this is accurate info. Big-C stopping buzz for internal mic only. > > well, that's pretty disappointing. I agree. Anyway that's as good as it gets. You seen Paul's comment about using internal mic in conjunction with headphones/headset for GSM pu

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread arne anka
> Yes, this is accurate info. Big-C stopping buzz for internal mic only. well, that's pretty disappointing. making a call and simultaneously doing something with the phone requires a headset -- when a call comes in it is easy to plug in the wired headset and off you go. using bt means: enable

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
As I've been asked to comment by Paul... Yes, this is accurate info. Big-C stopping buzz for internal mic only. Shielding headset may or may not work. There's been reports of stopping or reducing hs-buzz by adding a huge bead next to or inside the hs-plug, to stop RF from entering the device v

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Fertser
Paul Fertser writes: > R, soldering two of them in parallel to the same place (already s/parallel/series/ -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list commu

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Ed Kapitein
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 16:51 +0300, Paul Fertser wrote: > "arne anka" writes: > >> And don't forget that the proposed rework doesn't fix wired headset > >> mic, it will still produce a lot of buzz. > > > > how's that? > > i lived under the impression that the buzz is basically one buzz and the >

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Fertser
"arne anka" writes: >> And don't forget that the proposed rework doesn't fix wired headset >> mic, it will still produce a lot of buzz. > > how's that? > i lived under the impression that the buzz is basically one buzz and the > hw fix is intended to end all buzz. > > any sources proving your st

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread arne anka
> And don't forget that the proposed rework doesn't fix wired headset > mic, it will still produce a lot of buzz. how's that? i lived under the impression that the buzz is basically one buzz and the hw fix is intended to end all buzz. any sources proving your statement available? ___

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Cédric Berger
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:53, Paul Fertser wrote: > > And don't forget that the proposed rework doesn't fix wired headset > mic, it will still produce a lot of buzz. > Oh ? I had not seen this info yet... :-( Is this the same buzz as before rework or another problem ? _

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Fertser
ezuall writes: > Would it be worth while to start a petition for the official fix in > the wiki No. They obviously know that community is extremely irritated about it and want to hear _any_ official statement. But they prefer being silent. I guess we'll need to wait for another month for the fin

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-23 Thread ezuall
Hi again, I can tell that these e-mails of mine will either age-out like so many regarding this issue have in the past, or the community will get upset because of my constant and irritating questioning. Would it be worth while to start a petition for the official fix in the wiki (As I said in th

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread ezuall
Great feedback everybody, I have no doubts regarding the community's dedication to solutions to this issue. And I really appreciate all the hard work you guys are doing. That said, I'm not going to stop asking for final word on the official fix. If it is possible and practical it will be provid

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:13:07 +0300 Paul Fertser wrote: > > No, I'm not sure. It might not be bluetooth-related, but perhaps is > > caused by the mixer settings. I don't hear my own echo when talking > > without the bluetooth headset though. > > Is it statistically-proven? I don't claim to test

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Fertser
Simon Kagstrom writes: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:23:40 +0300 > Paul Fertser wrote: >> > Another (I guess unrelated) problem I have is that the sound >> > through the headset is quite bad. I hear a faint echo of myself and >> > the sound has a sharp "metallic" tone to it. My girlfriend in the >>

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:23:40 +0300 Paul Fertser wrote: > > Another (I guess unrelated) problem I have is that the sound > > through the headset is quite bad. I hear a faint echo of myself and > > the sound has a sharp "metallic" tone to it. My girlfriend in the > > other end also complained tha

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Fertser
Simon Kagstrom writes: > Paul Fertser wrote: >> Sorry, i can't answer to any of these questions, but i want to notify >> you and other community members that support for bluetooth headsets in >> FSO is coming and it will have neither buzz nor echo issues. > > Another (I guess unrelated) problem