It would be enough (easy saying) if someone would make some camera that
fits into the whole in the body of the NEO.. the half-circle-one. With
bluethooth interaction. Would be great.. just find someone who produces it?
Maybe the FIC could start some sort of addon-series, small gadgets that
fit in
Moin,
Am Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:45:51 +0200 schrieb ramsesoriginal:
Or, I mean, everybody could satart making the
addon packs. why not?
Because the hole actually fulfills a very specific role: the microphone
is in there. They way I've heard it there are basically two ways to
perform
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 01:21, Giles Jones wrote:
On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote:
Nokia are a brand, along with Samsung and Sony Ericsson they own the
market. It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market
share. Simply because you won't have the major operators selling them
On 7/24/07, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 01:21, Giles Jones wrote:
On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote:
Nokia are a brand, along with Samsung and Sony Ericsson they own the
market. It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market
share. Simply because you
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 14:47:21 AVee wrote:
You really don't need anything from an operator to get on that list, when
there is demand for a phone it will can be sold both with and without
contracts. Overhere FIC needs to get these resellers on board, not the
operators.
In order to reach
On 7/24/07, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 01:21, Giles Jones wrote:
On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote:
Nokia are a brand, along with Samsung and Sony Ericsson they own the
market. It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market
share. Simply because you
Mark Eichin wrote:
Joshua Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree 100% with Coomac. Sure it would be nice if we had a Digital SLR with
us at all times but that is completely impractical. Unless you are some sort
of weirdo chances are you are not going to be carrying that large camera
around
Marc Verwerft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Same in Belgium. We have the 3 big operators (Proximus, Base,
Mobistar) who have their own network. Besides that we have approx. 30
virtual operators (who rent from the 3 above).
None of them will refuse a phone to hook up to their network.
Guess this
Hey guys,
Can anyone confirm whether GTA02 will have a camera or no? The question has
been asked a few times on the mailing list and I've seen speculations, but
no real answers. Seeing as the Samsung 2442 SoC can support a camera
interface, is it safe to assume that this feature will be
Coomac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Hey guys,Can anyone confirm whether GTA02 will have a camera or
no? The question has been asked a few times on the mailing list and
I#39;ve seen speculations, but no real answers. Seeing as the Samsung 2442
SoC can support a camera interface, is it safe to
hinted at camera
support in GTA02.
Interestingly in a recent survey The Register found a camera was the only
feature rated undesirable by more people than rated it desirable.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/25/mobile_devices_who_decides/
I've worked at sites where cameras, including
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As mention previously, anything which requires the modification of the
casing will be very expensive and so it's not planned.
I'm sure however that people will have a go at hacking the unit and
addition a module in somehow.
Personally it's not
Coomac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Was really hoping
for a 3 MP to replace my current phone or at least a 2 MP with video to
better trounce the iPhone. I still have high hopes for the phone,
It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the
quality of the CCD/CMOS.
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Giles Jones wrote:
Coomac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Was really hoping
for a 3 MP to replace my current phone or at least a 2 MP with video to
better trounce the iPhone. I still have high hopes for the phone,
It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the
Giles Jones wrote:
Also, lack of camera is good for business, many business phones lack camera.
Oh, I'm sure we could come up with good business uses for cameras. In
an open phone, cameras do more than just take pictures. The key, as you
stated, is to have a fairly good quality camera.
Giles Jones wrote:
snip
All of my phones have had such dire cameras I have no interest in using them.
I saw a very good reason for always carrying a phone around with you (even a low
quality digital) recently. A truck crashed into a BMW at a junction outside my
office window. The first thing the
On 7/23/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe so, but as has been pointed out, phonecams are banned in a lot of
places, many of them businesses. Go buy an HP or Fuji (or whatever)
camera with 5MP and optical zoom for a hundred bucks and wear it on the
other hip. You'll be glad you did
It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the
quality of the CCD/CMOS.
Right. My simple version of this is Cameras have lenses - phones,
for the most part, don't.
This is why, for me, being able to do USB *host* is a killer feature,
so I can take *real* pictures
On 23 Jul 2007, at 17:04, Gordon Syme wrote:
Me too, while I'd like a camera to be there I wouldn't want it to
detract from
more important dev work.
Well, the driver and software can be made. This project isn't about
just one hardware unit.
I'm sure a USB webcam could be hacked to
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Brad Pitcher wrote:
Giles Jones wrote:
Also, lack of camera is good for business, many business phones lack
camera.
Oh, I'm sure we could come up with good business uses for cameras. In an
open phone, cameras do more than just take pictures. The key, as you stated,
Mark Eichin wrote:
It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the
quality of the CCD/CMOS.
Right. My simple version of this is Cameras have lenses - phones,
for the most part, don't.
This is why, for me, being able to do USB *host* is a killer feature,
so I can
What would be kind of cool for the next model, is a clear window in the back
of the case, with a plug-in module system behind it. If we could bring the
camera interface as well as I2C and SPI out to a connector right there, the
people who want a camera to take drunken blackmail shots of their
to retrofit a camera onto
the GTA02 because I'm not going to wait for a GTA03 (or whatever comes
after GTA02). I'm willing to bet that if it is possible there will be
people making kits to add a camera in short order. We may even see that
as an enhancement to the GTA01 before the 02 comes out
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:27, coomac wrote:
Rather than alienate one group over the other, why not have something
for both? A non camera version for those who don't need the feature as
well as a camera version with the exact same specs for those who can't
live without it? I mean, why have a
coomac wrote:
On 7/23/07, *Giles Jones* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As mention previously, anything which requires the modification of
the casing will be very expensive and so it's not planned.
I'm sure however that people will have a go at hacking the
coomac wrote:
On 7/23/07, *Ian Darwin* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Maybe so, but as has been pointed out, phonecams are banned in a lot of
places, many of them businesses. Go buy an HP or Fuji (or whatever)
camera with 5MP and optical zoom for a hundred bucks
Okay, since I seem to frequently function as the injector of some
reality into these discussions (aka wet blanket), yes, drilling a hole
in the case is straightforward. Now, how do you propose to actually wire
the camera module into the rest of the system, dare I ask...?
The gpio pins?
On 23 Jul 2007, at 20:16, andy selby wrote
The gpio pins?
https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt
although I'm not sure which ones and it'll be a different pinout for
the upgraded processor in GTA02.
I'm not sure wether you could connect a USB camera with a hacked USB
Ian Darwin wrote:
coomac wrote:
On 7/23/07, *Ian Darwin* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe so, but as has been pointed out, phonecams are banned in a
lot of places, many of them businesses. Go buy an HP or Fuji (or
whatever) camera with 5MP and optical zoom for a
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This phone wasn't initially designed for this project anyway was it?
No one from FIC said anything about it, but somehow, a bunch of the news
articles and blogs written about the phone promise a camera in phase 2. This
is why I asked in the
On 23 Jul 2007, at 20:37, coomac wrote:
No need for snarky comments. Like it or not, non technical people
make up the majority of consumers. These are people who are scared
to death of doing a mod on their brand spanking new gadget and
would instead purchase the gadget with that
Eric van Horssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mark Eichin wrote:
It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the
quality of the CCD/CMOS.
Right. My simple version of this is Cameras have lenses - phones,
for the most part, don't.
This is why, for me, being able to
Joshua Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree 100% with Coomac. Sure it would be nice if we had a Digital SLR with
us at all times but that is completely impractical. Unless you are some sort
of weirdo chances are you are not going to be carrying that large camera
around with you
I think a good planed Addon-system should do the trick.
Like the Wiki suggested there should be a spacer which fits into the
back. Some kind of bus which can be daisy chained through all back parts
and spacers. So it would be easy to develop a camera back and chain it
to the bus. If the bus would
On 7/23/07, Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree 100% with Coomac.
Whoops, name fixed.
SNIP
the people who can't bring cameras to work (a growing
number) are going to be a disproportionately large percentage of the
people who *actually
On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote:
You're right about business smart phones, but you're not taking
nokia's symbian phones and their huge userbase into account. One
glance at gsmarena (or any phone website) comments section will
give you an idea of how large the non business users
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market
share. Simply because you won't have the major operators selling them
on contract. Until operators are pushing them and people know what the
brand means
(ie, reputation) it's going to be
On 24 Jul 2007, at 01:21, Nkoli wrote:
If done right, it just might grab a good chunk of the market
without needing telcos. If anything, Apple has shown that people
are willing to drop $500 - $600 on a phone they can fall in love
with. In the US at least. It may not be so with the rest
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People complain about the price of the iPhone,
...yet upwards of a hundred thousand stood in line on day one to buy the
thing. Dude, this is unprecedented. The phone shook the US industry silly
and that industry is still recovering. Just
Nkoli wrote:
FIC is a solid brand name. It may not be tied to the phone industry,
FIC is tied to the phone industry, they may not have a market share in the US
or Europe but they have in parts of Asia
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