Will an AM/FM radio will be implemented in future versions of the GTA?
A radio should not be so much hardware/software expensive.
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This has already been addressed by an openmoko member.
There seemed to be a LOT of additional taxes for devices which can receive FM.
y
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Francesco Cat
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Will an AM/FM radio will be implemented in future versions of the GTA?
A radio should
thank you. I was not aware of this. I will buy a separate 10€ FM radio ;)
2008/6/25 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This has already been addressed by an openmoko member.
There seemed to be a LOT of additional taxes for devices which can receive FM.
y
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:04 AM
Francesco Cat wrote:
thank you. I was not aware of this. I will buy a separate 10€ FM radio ;)
2008/6/25 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This has already been addressed by an openmoko member.
There seemed to be a LOT of additional taxes for devices which can receive
FM.
y
On Wed, Jun 25
somehow I missed this entirely (although I know I read it)
I apologize for jumping threads and starting a new topic - it wasn't
even a week ago
j.
Doug Sutherland wrote:
Georg wrote:
no only in terms of speakerphone, also the navigational software (as far
as there'll be one) may be
Georg wrote:
no only in terms of speakerphone, also the navigational software (as far
as there'll be one) may be connected through it.. There are a lot of
possible ways to use that extension and I personally think that it's a
very useful additional feature .
Speaking of navigation, this is
Jeff Andros wrote:
On 11/9/07, *Georg Michelitsch* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
I'm interested in a FM transmitter in order to for example listen
to my
music on my car's radio.
/snip
This could also enable some really cool speakerphone
)
was roughly half the price, now it is $4.55. At quantuty 100 this
part goes down to $3.03, not bad for a complete FM receiver.
The price of the development board also dropped down to $125
and the USB FM radio stick demo is $35. But this distributor
(Digiykey) only has the FM receivers, not the AM
1) Are there any working hacks for getting FM radio reception on the
neo 1973? Even the $35 (total for the unlocked phone that will work
with any network) Nokia phones have FM reception in india. This is a
must have option for the Neo to sell in India. Most phones use the
earplug cable assembly
Silicon Labs SI4700 and SI4701 are entire FM tuners on a single
chip, and they are tiny. I have their USB FM Radio and I use it
every day on my PC, and I believe the same chip is in my Sony
Ericsson phone. This is the one that uses the earphone wire as
antenna, although it can be separate
On pe, 2007-11-09 at 16:35 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
1) Are there any working hacks for getting FM radio reception on the
neo 1973? Even the $35 (total for the unlocked phone that will work
with any network) Nokia phones have FM reception in india. This is a
must have option for the Neo
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 06:46:16 -0500
Doug Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Silicon Labs SI4700 and SI4701 are entire FM tuners on a single
chip, and they are tiny. I have their USB FM Radio and I use it
every day on my PC, and I believe the same chip is in my Sony
Ericsson phone
On Nov 9, 2007 6:10 AM, Mike Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He is talking about receiver chips, like those used in
SonyEricsson/Nokia cellphones, to provide the phone owner with FM
radio reception. Not to transmit say, music, to a radio.
Or i also could have missed the final sentence in his
He is talking about receiver chips, like those used in
SonyEricsson/Nokia cellphones, to provide the phone owner with FM
radio reception. Not to transmit say, music, to a radio.
Well I mentioned both, and they are separate chips.
There is plain FM, FM with RDS/RBDS, AM/FM
and also FM
Doug Sutherland wrote:
I am planning to make some PCB boards with the SI4701 and
minimal parts on them in the future, will be sold on ebay
(I have surface mount reflow oven).
See the Silicon Labs parts here:
Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
Implementing an FM sender would however make the Neo hard to sell on
markets where personal FM transmitters are illegal (however weak the
signal is) such as Sweden. At least it was still illegal when I was
living there.
cheers ./daniel
ahm - we're talking
here already,
have their USB FM radio stick which is really a demo
of the chipset, and have collected lots of info on these.
I also have sample WM8753, will be getting more,
and development boards for both of these chips
eventually.
-- Doug
Doug Sutherland
Proficio Research
http
Georg,
The amazing thing about these Silicon Labs parts is that they require
almost no external components. For example the SI470x FM tuners
require a crystal and regulator, that is all, they can use headphone
cable as antenna (as is done in most phones now), and they have
stereo analog output
Doug Sutherland wrote:
Georg,
The amazing thing about these Silicon Labs parts is that they require
almost no external components. For example the SI470x FM tuners
require a crystal and regulator, that is all, they can use headphone
cable as antenna (as is done in most phones now), and they
On 11/9/07, Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I'm interested in a FM transmitter in order to for example listen to my
music on my car's radio.
/snip
This could also enable some really cool speakerphone abilities, as long as
we can then filter the audio input to remove the echo
There is an interesting speaker phone codec made by cirrus logic
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/pro/detail/P1006.html
They are in stock at digikey
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Brad! :)
neo uses a csr bluecore4 chip. there's a bluecore5-mm which includes
an fm radio. It might even work where the bc4 currently sits.
otoh, the bc5-mm is starting to show up in bluetooth headsets. As long
as you didn't need to record the radio for some reason or expect to
get sideband data
Brad Arnold wrote:
On 8/22/07, *Ian Stirling* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NXP has a FM radio in a 2*3mm package that sits on the I2C bus and has 8
or so external components, to give you a complete FM radio.
Some $3 IIRC for the device in quantity
Giles Jones wrote:
On 22 Aug 2007, at 22:37, D. Vicario wrote:
To listen for streaming radio I MUST pay for the download, and the
price of data isn't cheap... so, the FM module is the only way, for
me, to listen radio. And I see very much use of it.
FM is only worth doing if you can
Brad Arnold wrote:
On 8/22/07, *Ian Stirling* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NXP has a FM radio in a 2*3mm package that sits on the I2C bus and has 8
or so external components, to give you a complete FM radio.
Some $3 IIRC for the device in quantity
On Thursday 23 August 2007 14:14, Ian Stirling wrote:
Giles Jones wrote:
On 22 Aug 2007, at 22:37, D. Vicario wrote:
To listen for streaming radio I MUST pay for the download, and the
price of data isn't cheap... so, the FM module is the only way, for
me, to listen radio. And I see very
Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
It's valuable if it's very cheap or free.
But it's another chip on the already large board.
There's a wifi/bluetooth/fm combo chip from Broadcom which could be considered,
subject to research into the open-ness of it (historically they've been closed).
On Thursday 23 August 2007 14:38:02 Giles Jones wrote:
I suggested TMC simply because we are unlikely to see an open source turn
by turn routing system for the GPS in this device, so we could at least
have an application which could alert you of potential traffic issues ahead
(would be a case
Giles Jones wrote:
Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
It's valuable if it's very cheap or free.
But it's another chip on the already large board.
Agree
DAB radios are more useful given the number of extra channels.
Agree.
Definitely more geekish. :)
There's no end of features you
.
A FM radio (using the above mentioned chip) can be implemented in under
10mm*10mm board space, and under about 10mW power.
A DAB radio takes (ballpark) 50mm*50mm, and 500mW.
Not to mention that in the UK, the sound quality is often worse.
The regulator recently dropped the requirement for 128kbps
Nicolas Bougues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
It would be really cool to have RDS on a portable FM tuner. However, I'm
afraid RDS requires very good signal quality, which may, or not, be reachable
using a mobile device.
Many PDA GPS solutions have RDS. I've had RDS work on a mobile device with
to be competitive and or best of breed.
3G HSDPA
Large internal flash storage (4GB plus)
USB2
High quality video recording
VOIP (transparent switching from GSM to VOIP)
I can buy a FM radio easily, but I can't buy 3G seperately and any of the above
features easily apart from the memory (but having a free
compressed for mobile use...
DMB is DAB with oder codecs used in the data streams.
A FM radio (using the above mentioned chip) can be implemented in under
10mm*10mm board space, and under about 10mW power.
A DAB radio takes (ballpark) 50mm*50mm, and 500mW.
Not to mention that in the UK
feature now that the EU have standardised on a format.
A DAB receiver could also supply you with DMB data. Which would be for
example video compressed for mobile use...
DMB is DAB with oder codecs used in the data streams.
A FM radio (using the above mentioned chip) can be implemented
On 8/23/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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DAB radios are more useful given the number of extra channels.
snip
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as long as you realize that now we're talking about multiple versions for
different regions... DAB isn't going to help me here in the US, and HD radio
DAB is only in Europe right?
How about if the phone had an expansion connector, next to some cavity
that isn't already filled with something (I hear there are some of
those, internally), and you could add modules as you please. The
connector would need to have a few GPIO connections to the main
from what I've seen/heard, most of the GPIO lines are already taken up by
alt-functions, but we could have the (spi/nssp)/i2c busses brought out to
that location
On 8/23/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAB is only in Europe right?
How about if the phone had an expansion connector,
Sounds fine.
I also thought later, some FM radio implementations seem to use the
headphone cable as an antenna, somehow (maybe they are just using the
shield of the cable, coupled capacitively as an antenna and through a
ferrite bead to ground? just guessing). So the module might need
for a device that has FM radio capabilities.
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broadcasting companies. This means that they would
have to pay extra money for a device that has FM radio capabilities.
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I'm not in agreemen with how you say about the FM... So no radio for
Neo? not even in future versions
, if they have a choice to listen to their collection of .ogg
(and patent-encumbered .mp3) files.
For myself, I use the FM radio on my MP3 player to listen to news and
public affairs programming while exercising in the gym. The anger I
feel when I hear about what's been happening in the last 24 hours
Personally, I would find a FM radio on a phone to be a welcome addition. I
use the radio to not only to listen to music, but also the listen to the
news and other broadcasted information. I must admit that stations on the FM
band are definitely more incline to be your stereotypical Top40 radio
I'm currently using a Motorola E6 as I wait for NEO to be more ready for the
early adopter / power user. While I haven't had it a long time, I will say
that the FM Radio is a pretty commonly used thing for me in a cell phone ..
and I encourage the group to consider it if it doesn't have huge
Are there no companies that make USB FM receivers? Seems like that would be
an easy fix, right?
I got a Sansa e140 as a prize a little while ago. It has an FM receiver. I
was thinking of breaking the thing open and trying to steal the receiver to
put in my Neo. Think that's workable?
-Steven
On 8/22/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking of breaking the thing open and trying to steal the receiver
to put in my Neo. Think that's workable?
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
uh... probably not... I haven't seen the device, but there probably isn't a
2007/8/22, Jeremy G [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Plus, most of the good radio (for example NPR here in the US) is
released in some sort of downloadable format anyway, so anymore I
don't see much use for a FM receiver.
To listen for streaming radio I MUST pay for the download, and the
price of data
On 22 Aug 2007, at 22:37, D. Vicario wrote:
To listen for streaming radio I MUST pay for the download, and the
price of data isn't cheap... so, the FM module is the only way, for
me, to listen radio. And I see very much use of it.
FM is only worth doing if you can also use the FM
On 8/22/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NXP has a FM radio in a 2*3mm package that sits on the I2C bus and has 8
or so external components, to give you a complete FM radio.
Some $3 IIRC for the device in quantity.
(neglecting the fact that it can complicate EMI)
Do you have
companies. This means that they would
have to pay extra money for a device that has FM radio capabilities.
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Is there any FM radio support in Neo?
Thanks,
Ashok
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Ashok Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Is there any FM radio support in Neo?
Thanks,
Ashok
Nope, it has no FM radio hardware.
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Is there any FM radio support in Neo?
Thanks,
Ashok
Nope, it has no FM radio hardware
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Any plans of adding it in future?
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Salve!
Make things dual or multiuse:
And on of the two buttons of the Neo1973 could be build good enough
to be used for fast/good morsing switch-key.
*g*
FM antennae - without earphones maybe the cord around the neck could
have cupper inside and the whole of the Neo1973 for this cord has an
Salve!
To phone via a dect module would costs less power
then WLAN - so such an option would be nice, too.
rob
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Salve!
Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 01. Dezember 2006 um 12:39h:
Salve!
To phone via a dect module would costs less power
then WLAN - so such an option would be nice, too.
It would be fun to use DECT on the road - when a Neo
would have the power for two DECT connections, go to
an
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