Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-16 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Hello Dale. To answer your question : The equivalent of source in python is execfile(filename). That should work the way you said. charlie/guillaume On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 15:07 +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: One more (dumb?) question: since I'd rather keep my zhone updated, I was thinking I could

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-15 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: When I used FSO for the first time, to workaround this, I simply hardcoded my contacts in the zhone python files. It works well, also if it's not so dynamic :P great Idea! my contacts don't change often, so that would work as an interim method! :D

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-14 Thread Dale Maggee
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Dale Maggee wrote: the only problem I have with zhone is missing features, such as an internal PIM database - at present it only uses contacts stored in the sim card. Also the fact that you can only send sms's to existing contacts , and can't just type

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-14 Thread Dale Maggee
Fredrik Wendt wrote: Hi. fre 2008-09-12 klockan 12:24 +0200 skrev Tilman Baumann: I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. Here is what i think of it. [...] And i would say it is time for some gui guidelines for new world etk, efl apps. We have a great looking

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Hi. fre 2008-09-12 klockan 12:24 +0200 skrev Tilman Baumann: I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. Here is what i think of it. [...] And i would say it is time for some gui guidelines for new world etk, efl apps. We have a great looking environment, now let's

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread clare johnstone
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I hope I'm not the only one that think Zhone looks really nice (apart from the default background). Although it's just a temporary UI, put there to take advantage of the framework, I'm gonna miss it - it's simply

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread Daniel Hedblom
Hi, I just want to agree 100%. Zhone is very beautiful and i like its simplicity. //danielh 2008/9/12 Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi. fre 2008-09-12 klockan 12:24 +0200 skrev Tilman Baumann: I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. Here is what i think of it.

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-13 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 12 September 2008 23:53:40 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Am 12.09.2008 um 22:43 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Now some Bugs: Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. Hmm, I thought that bug was fixed. It takes 5 seconds to powerdown here, holding the

FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
I found the new fso milestone and tried it out on my Neo 1973. Here is what i think of it. I used the 2008.2 (GTK) build before. First of all, i like that it bases on illume. Illume as a WM is gorgeous. I managed to crash enlightenment some time, but it works very well and was never unable to

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Dale Maggee
Tilman Baumann wrote: Zhone works well, but it's hideous. The integrated apps approach does not work any more in a window managed environment. And the UI is clunky. strange, I think that zhone is *gorgeous*, and I don't find it clunky at all! IMHO it's *very* pretty, and runs nicely - in

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Zhone does not show german umlauts correctly in SMS and it does not concatenate big messages composed of multiple messages. It does show umlauts correclty here (running Milestone3 on Debian, but I don’t think we have changed

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Hello Tilman. I will just comment on the tichy part of your email, since I am the main author. On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:24 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: I like the Tichy concept of having pythons apps running as plugins in one python runtime. I always expected it to be something like a app

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
Guillaume Chereau wrote: Hello Tilman. I will just comment on the tichy part of your email, since I am the main author. On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:24 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: I like the Tichy concept of having pythons apps running as plugins in one python runtime. I always expected it

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Dale Maggee wrote: the only problem I have with zhone is missing features, such as an internal PIM database - at present it only uses contacts stored in the sim card. Also the fact that you can only send sms's to existing contacts , and can't just type in a phone number. If it wasn't for

Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. I almost never get the thing to sleep because i fear i would press power too long and shut it down. What happens quite often never the less. If i shut it

Re: Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Fabian Henze
On 12.09.2008 at 12:24 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. I almost never get the thing to sleep because i fear i would press power too long and shut it down. What happens quite often never the less. Agreed and this is especially

Re: Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 18:23 +0200 schrieb Fabian Henze: imho the 2 to 4 second timeout (I haven't figured out the exact time yet^^) is not really necessary, as the power button is so tiny, that it is very unlikely you press it by accident. So im my eyes a much better solution

Re: Zhone with visual suspend feedback, Was: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Fabian Henze
On 12.09.2008 at 18:56:00, Joachim Breitner wrote: From what I’ve seen while coding the GUI (which is commited now), I think the reason why there is a timeout is that if there is not, the POWER press that you use to wake up the phone will be detected again... So how does it work on ASU? I

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Thanks for the review, I agree with almost all your points (except some Zhone things, but UI is always subjective -- and it's not at all the point of the fso release as you know.) Now some Bugs: Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. Hmm, I thought that bug was fixed.

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
Am 12.09.2008 um 19:11 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Thanks for the review, I agree with almost all your points (except some Zhone things, but UI is always subjective -- and it's not at all the point of the fso release as you know.) Hehe, yea i have seen. Seems difficult to agree on a

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 21:52 +0200 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Am 12.09.2008 um 19:11 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Thanks for the review, I agree with almost all your points (except some Zhone things, but UI is always subjective -- and it's not at all the point of the fso release

Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-12 Thread Tilman Baumann
Am 12.09.2008 um 22:43 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Now some Bugs: Differenciating between suspend and shutdown is terribely hard. Hmm, I thought that bug was fixed. It takes 5 seconds to powerdown here, holding the button for 1 second should trigger suspend. Check whether you have