Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Robin Farine
and over. Cheers, Dean From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2007 10:22 PM To: Rod Whitby Cc: OpenMoko Subject: Re: Fwd: mailing list management Do the people

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Jim McDonald
hank williams wrote: Oops. As usual I hit reply to and it went to casey personally Its broken. Just so that the 'silent majority' don't lose out on this one, I would like to point out that there are approximately 1,500 people subscribed to this list. Can we assume that unless we hear from

RE: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Dean Collins
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:community- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McDonald Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2007 4:26 PM To: OpenMoko Subject: Re: Fwd: mailing list management so I suggest we leave it as it is. Cheers, Jim

RE: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Heilpern, Mark
. I read the page that was linked, suggesting that's a bad idea, and I disagree. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McDonald Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 4:26 PM To: OpenMoko Subject: Re: Fwd: mailing list management hank williams

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
filter your incoming mail: Thread-Topic: Fwd: mailing list management X-BeenThere: community@lists.openmoko.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: List for OpenMoko community discussion community.lists.openmoko.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Christian Tschabuschnig
Jim McDonald wrote: Just so that the 'silent majority' don't lose out on this one, I would like to point out that there are approximately 1,500 people subscribed to this list. Can we assume that unless we hear from them their vote is 'no change'? There are pros and cons to each system, but

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread hank williams
Do the people suggesting these changes think that they really know better about how this list should be set up? Yup. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Mike Hodson
Look I'll vote for not changing the subject line; headers are wonderful for sorting. However, when I wish to reply -to the list-, I get a choice of either -to the sender- or -to the list, sender AND anyone else the bloody sender sent it to- instead of simply replying -to the list-. While the

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Mike Hodson wrote: Why not reply to all? Because im rather sure I don't want to reply to the author twice (as he apparently is on the list) and I don't want to reply to anyone else the author sent the mail to. There appears to be no other way to use this client than simply 1 or all, not

Fwd: Wiki application list.

2007-07-27 Thread Ricky
On 7/27/07, John Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GPS: CLI drivers/application got nuked in my initial flash (I put a note of a way you can actually back this up before flashing on the wiki--previously the instructions for backing it up required the device to be running, but you couldn't boot

Re: Fwd: Wiki application list.

2007-07-27 Thread Mark Eichin
I seem to have wiped out my GPS drivers and applications in my initial flash also. Had to - I didn't know of a way to back up before doing so. Same here - though given that the kernel couldn't find init, I'm not actually convinced that they *were* on the installed rootfs... Of course, I'd

Re: Fwd: Wiki application list.

2007-07-27 Thread Ian Stirling
Mark Eichin wrote: I seem to have wiped out my GPS drivers and applications in my initial flash also. Had to - I didn't know of a way to back up before doing so. Same here - though given that the kernel couldn't find init, I'm not actually convinced that they *were* on the installed

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-24 Thread Valerio Bruno
Sebastian Krause ha scritto: Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to create an nntp gateway. I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support thread! all messages are ordered just by date. You're using

Fwd: Camera idea

2007-07-24 Thread Hans L
-- Forwarded message -- From: Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 24, 2007 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Camera idea To: Cailan Halliday [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't seen the XPS camera up close, so I can't comment on it. But something that is closer to our application would be the LG

[Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Valerio Bruno
Messaggio Originale Oggetto: Re: OK, the forum is coming.. Data: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:14:31 +0200 Da: Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Niels L. Ellegaard ha scritto: Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And people who remember the term usenet can even look at it with a

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On 7/23/07, Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support thread! all messages are ordered just by date. So it's the same as reading the messages in own mailbox. Doh. Hmm, which newsreader are you using? I'm using

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Mickael Faivre-Macon
If you are using the nntp protocol, it means you have a client, right ? My client is Thunderbird, and it supports threads. The last time I used the _web_ interface, it had threads. Mickael. On 7/23/07, Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Messaggio Originale Oggetto: Re:

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Sebastian Krause
Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to create an nntp gateway. I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support thread! all messages are ordered just by date. You're using Thunderbird, and it supports

Fwd: community communication option review

2007-07-20 Thread Daniel Robinson
Here are the community communication options: 1) email lists email lists are available as single emails or as a digest. These lists can be searched via Google proxy. Inherent organization is chronological. Can be threaded, but threads on similar topics are not connected. 2) IRC and

Fwd: Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment

2007-07-16 Thread Torsten Röhl
i'm agree --- a good (simple installing ) development envirement can be important for the whole neo projekt (think of an simple eclipse-plugin ... you just install is ... and have fun. (with sample basic hello-world neo example and a good documentation)) torsten ps: for a core-level programmer

Fwd: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread Marc-Olivier Barre
Damn... hit reply, needed reply-to all ;-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Marc-Olivier Barre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 16, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Not the free phone To: Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/16/07, Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pius A. Uzamere II

Re: Fwd: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread Daniel Bartholomew
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 19:56 +0200, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote: On 7/16/07, Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pius A. Uzamere II wrote: I agree with your first sentence, but came up with precisely the opposite conclusion! I think Freedom Phone would work extremely well in the US.

Re: Fwd: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, As on date, when you own a phone, even though it is 'your' phone, it is branded as company X or Y phone. If you go to country F, you see people using mostly only phones from company N, because it is owned in country F. If you go to country S, you see people using mostly only phones from

Re: Fwd: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread Tim Newsom
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:28, Daniel Bartholomew wrote: Well, since Apple has gone iThis and iThat with everything and dropped their use of PowerThis and PowerThat, why not co-opt that? How would you like a PowerPhone? -- Daniel Bartholomew Well, in a similar vein (throwing in my own silly

Re: Fwd: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread Sven
ok, why not something totaly different from free, freedom and open? I'd call it the tuxphone. br ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Fwd: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread David \Lefty\ Schlesinger
Sven wrote: I'd call it the tuxphone. Why? Do you need to be wearing a tuxedo to use it...? (Yes, _I_ know, and _you_ know, but trust me, Sean will be spending the next year answering exactly that sort of question.) ___ OpenMoko community

Re: Fwd: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread Robin Paulson
On 7/17/07, David Lefty Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven wrote: I'd call it the tuxphone. Why? Do you need to be wearing a tuxedo to use it...? (Yes, _I_ know, and _you_ know, but trust me, Sean will be spending the next year answering exactly that sort of question.) and the

Fwd: Get them while they're still hot!

2007-07-09 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
Congratulations! I can't wait to have one in my hand! :-) Andreas 2007/7/8, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Community! Today is the day that we've all been waiting for: We can finally take your order for the world's first freed phone. Neos are waiting in customs just outside our

Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2007-07-08 Thread Nick Johnson
I just got this in my inbox. Possibly the reason the messages are getting duplicated is because the connection with the list's email server is timing out _after_ the message has been transmitted, but before Google's servers have sent a QUIT? And yes, though my domain is my own, I use Google Apps

Fwd: An alternative gaming top case

2007-07-01 Thread Ortwin Regel
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 1, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Re: An alternative gaming top case To: Frederic Kettelhoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connect the buttons with the board probably. Also the part about making some holes into the top case and

Fwd: OpenMoko development under MacOS X

2007-06-22 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
-- Forwarded message -- From: Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22-06-2007 19:29 Subject: Re: OpenMoko development under MacOS X To: openmoko-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007/6/22, Fabien Fleutot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm also trying to get qemu to work on

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello, that is right, but only the Kernel and other GPLed Software is free to use. The TomTom Software is closed. TomTom musst optimize the software for the use on openmoko and the Neo1973. I hope they support the Openmoko platform in the future :) With kind regards Patrick Beck Am Freitag,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-04 Thread Attila Csipa
On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:47, kenneth marken wrote: 3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should we think of that? My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-04 Thread Florent THIERY
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-04 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-04 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 04 June 2007 12:48, Frank Coenen wrote: H264 will probably not work. If you look at the website: http://www.smediatech.com/product3370.htm The chip used by the GTA_02 will probably be the 3362-version. That supports VGA displays, but does not support H264. At least it lists MPEG4,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable)

Fwd: FIC Fanboys

2007-06-04 Thread Chris Fazekas
Sorry, forgot to replyall. -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Fazekas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 4, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: Re: FIC Fanboys To: Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe someone can talk to jinx.com or a similar company about running a print off? Tell them you don't

Re: Fwd: FIC Fanboys

2007-06-04 Thread Pander
I was thinking about the same thing. So where is that scalable vector graphics logo. ;) how about http://www.shirtcity.com/shop/ Chris Fazekas wrote: Sorry, forgot to replyall. -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Fazekas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 4, 2007 11:19 AM

Re: Fwd: FIC Fanboys

2007-06-04 Thread Jeff Andros
http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?sid=211795 This has been up for a while... It's officialishly licensed from the coreteam guys you can check out the thread for it here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003160.html On 6/4/07, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: Fwd: FIC Fanboys

2007-06-04 Thread Jeff Andros
On 6/4/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?sid=211795 This has been up for a while... It's officialishly licensed from the coreteam guys you can check out the thread for it here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003160.html

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-04 Thread Bradley Hook
I imagine some creative programmer could offload some GPS calculations into 3D space... just an idea if the GPU is very efficient. ~Bradley Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video

[Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread kenneth marken
An one more thing.. Is there a camera for the phone too? Just because I saw on the Samsung's website that it has a camera support: Camera Interface supporting up to 4096 x 4096 resolution (2048 x 2048 pixel input support for scaling)

[Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread kenneth marken
3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should we think of that? Dan On 6/3/07, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh oh ye flippin gods! yes,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread Richard Boehme
Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be nice to know when GTA-02 has been pushed back to. Does anyone have any information on that? Thanks. Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread Edwin Lock
Does this mean the Neo 1973 has this hardware? That would just be fantastic :) When will Phase 2 be ready? 3d desktop would be really cool too, but I think the desktop at the moment is best for such a small screen.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread Frank Coenen
No... Look at the rest ;-) That would also mean that GTA02 doesn't have a gsm-chip :-p The GTA02 part simply says what it has extra to the GTAb_v4 On 6/3/07, Richard Boehme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) The Neo will me sold als phone with the option to install software, not because of its GPS chip. There will be much free software which will make the Neo a great smartphone (hopefully ^^). TomTom ported its software to

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Ian Darwin wrote: I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the world. Much digitization required :-). this actually depends on where you're located.

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Buddy
Well, I hope you're right! And I hope enough Neos get sold that it becomes worth their while. I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the world. Much digitization required :-). Ian Darwin A

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
Raphaël Jacquot wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the world. Much digitization required :-). this actually depends on where you're located. Yes, clearly some

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
A simple app to add data for the OpenStreetMap project on OpenMoko will probably help a lot. Absolutely. And I'm sure several of these will come into being. If you want reuse, however, you should think about writing it in Java. Believe that there will be good Java ME implementations for

Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, this answer is not too bad and maybe better than expected. will keep an eye on it could mean, that TomTom will wait and see how the first OpenMoko Phones (Neo1973 Phase 2) sell. If the sales are ok, maybe they release their software for OpenMoko.

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi, you are right. I hope they change that information in the future :) With kind regards, Patrick Beck Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 21:55 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: Well, this answer is not too bad and maybe better than expected. will keep an eye on it could mean, that TomTom will wait

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Ian Darwin
Thomas Gstädtner wrote: Well, this answer is not too bad and maybe better than expected. will keep an eye on it could mean, that TomTom will wait and see how the first OpenMoko Phones (Neo1973 Phase 2) sell. If the sales are ok, maybe they release their software for OpenMoko. I think you're

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Ian Darwin
Ian Darwin wrote: I think you're right; after the first 250,000 or so Neo 1973 phones have been sold, they *may* look again. There are currently under 350 signups, so I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you just want to use a $350 Neo as a $200 GPS, you might as well spend the time

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Yes, but if I am relying on my device to be able to get from point A to point B then I would MUCH rather have it be able to give me an accurate map and directions. Its almost a chicken and egg problem. TomTom only sells/ports to high volume platforms. Platforms need TomTom (not

Fwd: Iphone eat your heart out.

2007-05-17 Thread mathew davis
No nothing on it yet. On 5/17/07, Duncan Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mathew davis wrote: Now the neo can hold as much memory as the upcoming Iphone but better. Samsung just announced that it has developed an 8 Gigabyte microSD memory card. That means that the $350 neo equiped with a

Fwd: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread J F
-- Forwarded message -- From: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Apr 24, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject? To: t3st3r [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 24/4/07 8:23 pm, t3st3r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Florent THIERY wrote: Disclaimer: in no way I'm any official

Fwd: picture viewer

2007-04-20 Thread Ryan Prior
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Apr 20, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: picture viewer To: Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] If we're going to have a mokofingerwheel on the map interface, why not allow finger wheel up to zoom out and finger wheel down

Fwd: OpenMoko light web server

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Boehme
Locally 'installed' web-apps would be great though. My thought was that I have two standalone apps, one on the phone displayed via the phone's web server that's restricted to localhost, and one which is running on a normal copy of Apache. However, I only have to maintain one display code base.

Fwd: Palm, Access, Linux and Irrelevance

2007-04-12 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
Forgot to forward this to the lists... Begin forwarded message: Subject: Palm, Access, Linux and Irrelevance Hey Brad... A friend forwarded me your Opening up the Wireless Handset article, and I figured I have a few apropos comments. First... I've been in the mobile value chain for

Re: Fwd: UI long term development perspective: physics engine

2007-04-07 Thread Florent THIERY
Hi I had the chance to get my hands on the neo for a short moment (thanks sean), and i must say i'm double motivated now :) I had the opportunity to play for a split second with the touchscreen, and i think we can do things with this touchscreen; it may require module hacking, for stabilizing

Re: Fwd: UI long term development perspective: physics engine

2007-04-06 Thread Ryan
This can be implemented using different animation equations to control the speed of the animation. See: http://www.robertpenner.com/easing/ Ryan On 4/2/07, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 02 April 2007 00:38, Florent THIERY wrote: i'm pretty curious to know what exactly the

Fwd: UI long term development perspective: physics engine

2007-04-01 Thread Florent THIERY
i'm pretty curious to know what exactly the touchscreen sees when you touch the screen with 2 fingers at the same time, when you move them, when you move only one of the 2, etc, ...). The output is the center of the bounding box of the touched area. Pressure has little, but not no effect.

[Fwd: Re: Mokomake mkae setup fails]

2007-03-28 Thread Michael Welter
Resend Original Message Subject: Re: Mokomake mkae setup fails Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:24:59 +0930 From: Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ewan Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: community@lists.openmoko.org References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ewan Marshall wrote: Make setup for

Fwd: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-28 Thread Ortwin Regel
Don't forget that phones have vibrators. They could be used in cunning ways with a relatively simple UI to provide feedback and thus usability of touchscreens for even completely blind people. On 3/27/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2007 10:23:08 Bartlomiej

Fwd: Re: Crossroads

2007-03-13 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
[the reply to issue bit me another time ;)] On Tuesday 13 March 2007 17:51:00 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Marvell has some nice for larger devices (the 8388). But we need one specifically for mobile phones (like the 8686). If somebody can help us find the right vendor, we'll give you a free

Re: Fwd: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Phase 0 has started

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Fwd: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Phase 0 has started

2007-03-06 Thread Sergi Blanch i Torné
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Re: Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

2007-02-28 Thread Bruce Deschamps
Hi I Krysztof and Sean, In reference to Krys email below, I would also like to know what the status of developers should have to get the device? Should they be affiliated to a company, or can student engineer like me, get it on phase 1? I am studying Computer Science focused on mobile software.

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

2007-02-28 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 04:08:39 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: CPU, dedicated Graphics Acceleration, AND Wifi?? If so, thats a hell of an upgrade after 3 months. The thing we can promise at this point is a faster CPU. We're still working on the WiFi stuff. Graphics acceleration is much later.

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

2007-02-28 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 08:49 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: The thing we can promise at this point is a faster CPU. We're still working on the WiFi stuff. Graphics acceleration is much later. That's wonderful news Sean! Could you clarify: are there going to be two 'Phases 1' - one

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

2007-02-28 Thread michael
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, denis wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 17:02 -0500, Alan Ide wrote: So, I am a little confused still. Are you saying the Refreshed version of the Neo that will be released in June will have A faster CPU, dedicated Graphics Acceleration, AND

[Fwd: Re: GSoC 2007 is ON!!]

2007-02-27 Thread Koen Kooi
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Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

2007-02-27 Thread Alan Ide
-- Forwarded message -- From: Alan Ide [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Feb 27, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: Re: OpenMoko workshop at ETel To: mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I am a little confussed still. Are you saying the Refreshed version of the Neo that will be released in June will have

Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

2007-02-27 Thread Alan Ide
So, I am a little confussed still. Are you saying the Refreshed version of the Neo that will be released in June will have A faster CPU, dedicated Graphics Acceleration, AND Wifi?? If so, thats a hell of an upgrade after 3 months. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alan Ide [EMAIL

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

2007-02-27 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 17:02 -0500, Alan Ide wrote: So, I am a little confussed still. Are you saying the Refreshed version of the Neo that will be released in June will have A faster CPU, dedicated Graphics Acceleration, AND Wifi?? If so, thats a hell of an upgrade after 3 months. The thing

Emerging Telephony Conference Discount (fwd)

2007-02-21 Thread michael
Seems that O'Reilly will offer a 40% discount to a group, if someone in charge registers us as a group. To the extent that those of us on the mailing list are a group, who's in charge? -- Forwarded message -- Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SVHMPC] Emerging Telephony

RE: Emerging Telephony Conference Discount (fwd)

2007-02-21 Thread David Schlesinger
I've already registered, and paid, for this... =/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2/21/2007 4:42 PM To: OpenMoko -- OpenMoko Subject: Emerging Telephony Conference Discount (fwd) Seems that O'Reilly will offer a 40% discount

RE: Emerging Telephony Conference Discount (fwd)

2007-02-21 Thread michael
, for this... =/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2/21/2007 4:42 PM To: OpenMoko -- OpenMoko Subject: Emerging Telephony Conference Discount (fwd) Seems that O'Reilly will offer a 40% discount to a group, if someone in charge registers us

RE: Emerging Telephony Conference Discount (fwd)

2007-02-21 Thread Dean Collins
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Schlesinger Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2007 7:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OpenMoko -- OpenMoko Subject: RE: Emerging Telephony Conference Discount (fwd) I've already registered, and paid

[SVHMPC] Engadget's Take on the Google Phone (fwd)

2007-01-22 Thread michael
Forwarded from the Silicon Valley Homebrew Mobile Phone Club: -- Forwarded message -- Subject: [SVHMPC] Engadget's Take on the Google Phone The guys over at Engadget are publishing what looks to be a photoshopped picture of the G-Phone. Supposedly, it's a whole-screen type

Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-18 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 18 January 2007 06:12, Alexander McLeay wrote: What sort of speed does this give you? Is it actually good enough for It's assumed Bluetooth 2.0 EDR will allow about 2mbit. VoIP over Bluetooth IP to be practical? Plenty fast for that. I think Speex can run on as little as

speex codec down to 2kbit/s instead of 2kbyte/s Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-18 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Gabriel! Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Donnerstag, den 18. Januar 2007 um 08:55h: VoIP over Bluetooth IP to be practical? Plenty fast for that. I think Speex can run on as little as 2kbyte/s. Ohhhmmm I've tested 1kByte/s bewteen two asterisks this is a quite good quality. Remember that GSM

Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-18 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Jean-Philippe Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070118 03:38]: On Thursday 18 January 2007 09:25, you wrote: Thankfully most of this can be done over Bluetooth. At least with linux computers you'll be able to access it as a network device, and you'll be able to run smb or sshfs albeit at

Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-17 Thread Chad
Thankfully most of this can be done over Bluetooth. At least with linux computers you'll be able to access it as a network device, and you'll be able to run smb or sshfs albeit at reduced speed. Neos won't be islands, even when untethered from USB. :) - Chad

Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-17 Thread Jean-Philippe Monteiro
On Thursday 18 January 2007 09:25, you wrote: Thankfully most of this can be done over Bluetooth. At least with linux computers you'll be able to access it as a network device, and you'll be able to run smb or sshfs albeit at reduced speed. Neos won't be islands, even when untethered from

Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-17 Thread Rod Whitby
Jean-Philippe Monteiro wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2007 09:25, you wrote: Thankfully most of this can be done over Bluetooth. At least with linux computers you'll be able to access it as a network device, and you'll be able to run smb or sshfs albeit at reduced speed. Neos won't be

Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-17 Thread Jean-Philippe Monteiro
Need to set up a server though, it won't just access my Linksys Box :( It will access your Linksys NSLU2 running SlugOS with a bluetooth USB dongle plugged into it, sitting beside your Linksys Router ... I do this today with the Treo 650 to get bluetooth network coverage in my house. --

Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-17 Thread Rod Whitby
Jean-Philippe Monteiro wrote: Need to set up a server though, it won't just access my Linksys Box :( It will access your Linksys NSLU2 running SlugOS with a bluetooth USB dongle plugged into it, sitting beside your Linksys Router ... I do this today with the Treo 650 to get bluetooth network

Re: Fwd: Why do I want WiFi?

2007-01-17 Thread Rod Whitby
Alexander McLeay wrote: On 1/18/07, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I also connect to IRC, can ssh, and surf the web, all over the bluetooth connection. I expect to be able to do the same with the Neo, except that it will be a true PAN BT connection rather than the ppp over serial

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Bohme wrote: Mike wrote: Marcel de Jong wrote: ps. I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only mailinglist that I know, that does that this way)

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 16 stycznia 2007 00:45, Marcel de Jong napisał: I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only mailinglist that I know, that does that this way) Nearly all lists which I read are configured

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Krier schreef: Marcel de Jong wrote: On 1/15/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973 phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones? In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Marcel de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070115 23:24]: On 1/15/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973 phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones? In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM phone isn't normally locked to a

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Mike Krier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070116 00:11]: I agree with this, and I'd also like to add that this list should also auto-prepend a marker in the subject line like most other lists do, for example [OMOKO-COM] so that we can set up mail filters. But it does already set a marker: List-Id:

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Mike
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: * Mike [070116 00:11]: I agree with this, and I'd also like to add that this list should also auto-prepend a marker in the subject line like most other lists do, for example [OMOKO-COM] so that we can set up mail filters. But it does already set a marker: List-Id:

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-15 Thread Mike Krier
Marcel de Jong wrote: On 1/15/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973 phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones? In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM phone isn't normally locked to a carrier, only the GSM-chip (SIMcard)

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-15 Thread Paul Bohme
Mike wrote: Marcel de Jong wrote: ps. I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only mailinglist that I know, that does that this way) You'll want to be careful here - is an odd thing that people get really

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