Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello, that is right, but only the Kernel and other GPLed Software is free to use. The TomTom Software is closed. TomTom musst optimize the software for the use on openmoko and the Neo1973. I hope they support the Openmoko platform in the future :) With kind regards Patrick Beck Am Freitag, den

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-06-08 Thread Kero van Gelder
> > Now the answer from TomTom: > > > > Dear Mr. Beck, > > > > Currently TomTom has no plans to extend our navigation software to other > > platforms. However the Openmoko is an interesting development and we > > will keep an eye on it to see how this project evolves into the future. > > > > Wi

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
A simple app to add data for the OpenStreetMap project on OpenMoko will probably help a lot. Absolutely. And I'm sure several of these will come into being. If you want reuse, however, you should think about writing it in Java. Believe that there will be good Java ME implementations for OpenM

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Patrick Beck
Openstreetmap is till now not a alternative to other proprietary map companys. A map with only a small fraction of my country is not good to navigate;) With kind regards, Patrick Beck Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 16:57 -0400 schrieb Ian Darwin: > > And besides, wouldn't you rather have an open

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 30 maja 2007, Thomas Gstädtner napisał: > Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) > The Neo will me sold als phone with the option to install software, not > because of its GPS chip. One of reasons why my friend bought HTC Artemis phone was GPS unit and

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
Raphaël Jacquot wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the world. "Much digitization required" :-). this actually depends on where you're located. Yes, clearly some ma

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Buddy
Well, I hope you're right! And I hope enough Neos get sold that it becomes worth their while. I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the world. "Much digitization required" :-). Ian Darwin A sim

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Ian Darwin wrote: > I'd like to have good maps, and as you implied, OpenStreetMap (OSM) is > probably years - maybe decades - from having comprehensive maps of the > world. "Much digitization required" :-). this actually depends on where you're located. __

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Darwin
Thomas Gstädtner wrote: Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) The Neo will me sold as a phone with the option to install software, not because of its GPS chip. There will be much free software which will make the Neo a great smartphone (hopefully ^^). TomTom p

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) The Neo will me sold als phone with the option to install software, not because of its GPS chip. There will be much free software which will make the Neo a great smartphone (hopefully ^^). TomTom ported its software to series6

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Yes, but if I am relying on my device to be able to get from point A to point B then I would MUCH rather have it be able to give me an accurate map and directions. Its almost a chicken and egg problem. TomTom only sells/ports to high volume platforms. Platforms need TomTom (not specifically,

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Ian Darwin
Ian Darwin wrote: I think you're right; after the first 250,000 or so Neo 1973 phones have been sold, they *may* look again. There are currently under 350 signups, so I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you just want to use a $350 Neo as a $200 GPS, you might as well spend the time on

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Ian Darwin
Thomas Gstädtner wrote: Well, this answer is not too bad and maybe better than expected. "will keep an eye on it" could mean, that TomTom will wait and see how the first OpenMoko Phones (Neo1973 Phase 2) sell. If the sales are ok, maybe they release their software for OpenMoko. I think you're

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi, you are right. I hope they change that information in the future :) With kind regards, Patrick Beck Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 21:55 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: > Well, this answer is not too bad and maybe better than expected. > "will keep an eye on it" could mean, that TomTom will w

Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-29 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, this answer is not too bad and maybe better than expected. "will keep an eye on it" could mean, that TomTom will wait and see how the first OpenMoko Phones (Neo1973 Phase 2) sell. If the sales are ok, maybe they release their software for OpenMoko. ___