Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-05 Thread thewire
Michele Renda пишет: > Hello to all > > I would like to know how do you like to read the phone number: > ... > > Please, who has some time, can you please write your country (Italy, > France, etc.) and the way how usually is normal to read a phone number > in your country (with international pr

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-05 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: > DIN specification for German numbers is AFAIK > > +49 (1 23) 1 23 45 68 > > That is, area code in parentheses and each number block in sets of two, > but from right to left. ("1 23 45" instead of "12 34 5") Ah, and btw. There is no fixed number length. Phone numbers can

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-05 Thread Helge Hafting
Michele Renda wrote: > Hello to all > > I would like to know how do you like to read the phone number: > > I try to explain: when we read a phone number we usually like to separe > it with some spaces or signs: > for example in Italy when someone give me a mobile phone number I > usually write:

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-05 Thread Didier Raboud
Hi, Switzerland From outside (many people write all their numbers like this, gives the "international" trend...) : +41 xx yyy yy yy From inside : 0xx yyy yy yy Where "xx" is the regional code. AFAIK, mobile phones are always "7x", with x = 6, 8, 9 And you can replac

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-05 Thread Tilman Baumann
DIN specification for German numbers is AFAIK +49 (1 23) 1 23 45 68 That is, area code in parentheses and each number block in sets of two, but from right to left. ("1 23 45" instead of "12 34 5") Alternative variant for area code for not fully canonical numbers is (01 23) ... (0 prefix within

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-05 Thread Helge Hafting
William Kenworthy wrote: > A question: if you always dial a local number with the international and > STD prefixes (which is what I think you are suggesting here) - under > what regime will you get charged??? > > As a local call, or an international call? > > Could get *VERY* expensive :) > Redu

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-05 Thread Atilla Filiz
In Turkey, our numbers are 7 digit excluding area codes. If you're calling within your city you tell the number as ### ## ## If it is an inter-city call, you dial 0*** ### ## ## where *** is the city code. Mobile numbers also have three digit codes like they are different cities. Finally, if you di

Re: How do you like to read a phone number? (India users)

2009-01-01 Thread Carl Lobo
I found a list of landline std codes here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/39734/STD-Code-of-INDIA On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Michele Renda wrote: > Il 30/12/2008 12:44, Gora Mohanty ha scritto: > > Thank you Rakshat, Gora for all the informations! > > Ps. Yes, I missed 094, but I inserted it. T

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-01 Thread Pander
For the thread that could be a mailing list on its own: I've noticed a funny effect on reading out numbers in different languages. I'm from the Netherlands and here we say 'eight-and-twenty' (achtentwintig) for the number 28. In English, you'd say twenty-eight. This reverse reading is also in Germ

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-01 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:36:34 am George Brooke wrote: > Knowing the UK, any coherency is probably just pot-luck :-) Or the result of the complete stuff up of PhoneDay in 1995 (predicted in 1993[1]) which resulted in another numbering change being needed 16 months later[2] which was moderately se

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-31 Thread Gothnet
I'm just weird. And another thing, I may have exited my 20s this year but I'm not *that* old! ;) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/How-do-you-like-to-read-a-phone-number--tp2083029p2095801.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread arne anka
> I meant to add in my previous reply, that there are probably no hard & > fast rules about how people here in the UK do _actually_ read out > numbers. holds true for germany, too. i had an swedish teacher from bavaria once who got confused by how we people in the north were doing it compared to

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread Stroller
On 29 Dec 2008, at 23:27, Neil Jerram wrote: > 2008/12/29 Stroller : >> >> Note, however, that I would most always use "0207" or "0208 xxx yyy" > > Need one more "y" there: I thought that might be the case. > "0207" or "0208 xxx ". Nevertheless, I would write or say it this way. >> for Lo

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread Stroller
On 30 Dec 2008, at 12:16, Gothnet wrote: >> ... >> Note, however, that I would most always use "0207" or "0208 xxx yyy" >> for London numbers - I personally would not use "020", or group the >> "7" or "8" with the next set of digits. This is probably because I >> remember when they changed London

Re: How do you like to read a phone number? (India users)

2008-12-30 Thread Michele Renda
Il 30/12/2008 12:44, Gora Mohanty ha scritto: Thank you Rakshat, Gora for all the informations! Ps. Yes, I missed 094, but I inserted it. Thank you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/list

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread Gothnet
; I would likewise, but you need your memory checked :) It went 01, 071/081, 0171/0181 then 0207/0208. BT changed the London codes so many times in the 80s and 90s. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/How-do-you-like-to-read-a-phone-number--tp2083029p2092178.html Sent from th

Re: How do you like to read a phone number? (India users)

2008-12-30 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:48:55 +0100 Michele Renda wrote: > Il 29/12/2008 13:45, Carl Lobo ha scritto: > > Try > > > > http://www.ashesh.net/blog/downloads/PDF/Mobile_Telephone_Number_Codes_India.pdf > > > > Seems to be accurate from first glance. > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Michele Re

Re: How do you like to read a phone number? (India users)

2008-12-30 Thread rakshat hooja
Replies below: > Hello to all Indian Openmoko Users, > I am preparing the Indian dialplan: I have some (for you) stupid question: > > 1) All your mobile phone number usually start witt > (092/093/092/097/098/099) so your international phone number start with > (+9192 / +9193/ etc.) ? Yes > > >

Re: How do you like to read a phone number? (India users)

2008-12-30 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 13:45, Carl Lobo ha scritto: > Try > > http://www.ashesh.net/blog/downloads/PDF/Mobile_Telephone_Number_Codes_India.pdf > > Seems to be accurate from first glance. > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Michele Renda > wrote: > > Hello to all Indian Openmoko Users, I am preparing

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread Pander
In the Netherlands it is safe to call +31X , that is even the number you get in your display when you are being called. Guaranteed that you wil be charged correctly. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:26:56 +0100 Michele Renda > babbled: > >> Il 30/12/2008

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:26:56 +0100 Michele Renda babbled: > Il 30/12/2008 04:30, William Kenworthy ha scritto: > > A question: if you always dial a local number with the international and > > STD prefixes (which is what I think you are suggesting here) - under > > what regime will you get charged

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread arne anka
> A question: if you always dial a local number with the international and > STD prefixes (which is what I think you are suggesting here) - under > what regime will you get charged??? the issue came up when germany allowed other telcos, too, with the area codes. answer was: the telco filters ca

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-30 Thread Michele Renda
Il 30/12/2008 04:30, William Kenworthy ha scritto: > A question: if you always dial a local number with the international and > STD prefixes (which is what I think you are suggesting here) - under > what regime will you get charged??? > > As a local call, or an international call? > > Could get *VE

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 17:22 +0100, Michele Renda wrote: > Hello, > > thank you for your complete email! > > My idea in about these points: > > a) Who now has a freerunner is someone that is a bit an advanced user. > And I think a lot of people don't like all these ambiguities on phone > number

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Ben
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:52 PM, clare johnstone wrote: > Well he did say "international", and I do think Australians are > getting used to the idea of what "country codes" are for and how to > dial the numbers. I wouldn't bet on it, we're still pretty backward :-) number patterns I'm familiar

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Radek Bartoň
On Monday 29 of December 2008 13:00:01 Michele Renda wrote: > > Please, who has some time, can you please write your country (Italy, > France, etc.) and the way how usually is normal to read a phone number > in your country (with international prefix) > > The format I use to descrive is this: +39

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/29 Stroller : > > Note, however, that I would most always use "0207" or "0208 xxx yyy" Need one more "y" there: "0207" or "0208 xxx ". > for London numbers - I personally would not use "020", or group the > "7" or "8" with the next set of digits. This is probably because I > remember

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Charles Pax
U.S. 1.973.555. On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Michele Renda wrote: > Hello to all > > I would like to know how do you like to read the phone number: > > I try to explain: when we read a phone number we usually like to separe > it with some spaces or signs: > for example in Italy when some

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Damian Spriggs
That's because nobody outside the US wants to talk to us these days, anyway. ;) (d) --- Damian A. Spriggs Writer: Weekly World Shrew http://www.weeklyworldshrew.com On Dec 29, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Pat Barrett wrote: That's close, the traditional way of writing it is (651) 867-5309 or else 651

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Pat Barrett
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Michele Renda wrote: > > But I know in USA is more common something like: +1-212-123456 > That's close, the traditional way of writing it is (651) 867-5309 or else 651-867-5309. It the number requires a 1, for instance in a toll free number, it's: 1-888-867-530

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Stroller
On 29 Dec 2008, at 12:00, Michele Renda wrote: > ... > I try to explain: when we read a phone number we usually like to > separe > it with some spaces or signs: I'm in the UK; I would most always format a number so that the last 6 digits are in two groups of 3. This generally means reading a

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread George Brooke
On Monday 29 December 2008 17:09:58 arne anka wrote: > > d) I'd like to avoid to use a specific class for every coutry. For now > > (until I will not find some very big problems) I would like to have a > > simple big text file with all the configuration. I did for Italy and > > seem to be pretty fa

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread arne anka
> d) I'd like to avoid to use a specific class for every coutry. For now > (until I will not find some very big problems) I would like to have a > simple big text file with all the configuration. I did for Italy and > seem to be pretty fast. well, whatever might be most common in a particular coun

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 17:18, Alexandre Ghisoli ha scritto: > I suggest to work with E.164 numbering scheme only. In this case, you > can populate your address book in full international number, without > taking care of your location (i.e. don't add prefix when outside of > your area / country). > > Now, it

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Hello, thank you for your complete email! My idea in about these points: a) Who now has a freerunner is someone that is a bit an advanced user. And I think a lot of people don't like all these ambiguities on phone number. I think a phone number must to be as unique is possible (in must not be

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Alexandre Ghisoli
Le Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:04:32 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:34:00 + George Brooke > babbled: > > > On Monday 29 December 2008 14:16:15 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > > 1234 5678 (call from the 02 area code - i.e. NSW only) > > I may be wrong but

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:34:00 + George Brooke babbled: > On Monday 29 December 2008 14:16:15 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > 1234 5678 (call from the 02 area code - i.e. NSW only) > I may be wrong but (at least in UK) you don't need to worry about the local > version of the number as mobiles n

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Gothnet
ork reports it to your phone in international format, it behaves the same. Similarly with dialling, whether I enter the number in national or international format it ought to use the full international number under the covers, so I don't get stuck re-entering numbers when I'm on holiday

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread George Brooke
On Monday 29 December 2008 14:16:15 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > 1234 5678 (call from the 02 area code - i.e. NSW only) I may be wrong but (at least in UK) you don't need to worry about the local version of the number as mobiles need the full version with area code. solar.george signature.asc De

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:11:28 +0100 Michele Renda babbled: > Il 29/12/2008 13:38, William Kenworthy ha scritto: > > Not really an issue, > > except for using a "+" like you do will totally confuse people here ... > > > > > I am trying to make some ideas :) In this moment I am writing a dialer,

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Thank you for the very complete explanation I think the config for france will be very very short :) Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Roland Mas
Michele Renda, 2008-12-29 13:27:45 +0100 : > Il 29/12/2008 13:20, Roland Mas ha scritto: >>For France (+33), the usual format is +33 # ## ## ## ## >> (international format) or 0# ## ## ## ## (without the international >> prefix) > Thank you for your answer. > > I have a question: this is valid

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread George Brooke
On Monday 29 December 2008 13:23:05 Michele Renda wrote: > Il 29/12/2008 13:54, Peter Strapp ha scritto: > > In the UK the format varies depending on the length of the STD code (The > > digits following the country code). Most STD codes are 5 digits long (4 > > when using international format). Cit

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 13:54, Peter Strapp ha scritto: > In the UK the format varies depending on the length of the STD code (The > digits following the country code). Most STD codes are 5 digits long (4 > when using international format). City STD codes can range between 3 and > 6 digits. The most common f

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
> > Hi, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_conventions_for_writing_telephone_numbers#United_Kingdom > is about what i'd use - if you need to use international codes then just drop > the 0 and add +44 but that's not how i usually see numbers written. > IIRC 08* numbers can't be used as +448* but

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 13:38, William Kenworthy ha scritto: > Not really an issue, > except for using a "+" like you do will totally confuse people here ... > > I am trying to make some ideas :) In this moment I am writing a dialer, and I am implementing a intelligent formatting functionality. About

Swiss numbering plan (was: How do you like to read a phone number?)

2008-12-29 Thread Alexandre Ghisoli
Le Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:37:54 +0100, Michele Renda a écrit : > Il 29/12/2008 13:26, Alexandre Ghisoli ha scritto: > > It's not so easy, because there are many codes inside a country. > > For example, switzerland: > > > > +41 79 xxx xx xx > > > > But for voice boxes : > > +41 860 xx xxx xx xx > > >

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Pander
Interesting one. Note that there is a lot of convention but not always the optimal way. It is far more difficult to remember "837 12 463" than "8371 2463" although you might be trained for two's and three's, four's are better because you need less groups to remember. In the Netherlands different s

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Peter Strapp
In the UK the format varies depending on the length of the STD code (The digits following the country code). Most STD codes are 5 digits long (4 when using international format). City STD codes can range between 3 and 6 digits. The most common formats are shown below. Wikipedia has an excellent art

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread George Brooke
On Monday 29 December 2008 12:00:01 Michele Renda wrote: > Hello to all > > I would like to know how do you like to read the phone number: > > I try to explain: when we read a phone number we usually like to separe > it with some spaces or signs: > for example in Italy when someone give me a mobile

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread clare johnstone
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:38 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > Australia: > > Mobiles: 04nn nnn nnn (mobiles all *seem* to be prefixed as 04 - may or > may not be true The zero seems to be like the zero on an area code, - is omitted when the country prefix is used. > + is usually only seen with in

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 13:45, Carl Lobo ha scritto: > Try > > http://www.ashesh.net/blog/downloads/PDF/Mobile_Telephone_Number_Codes_India.pdf > > Seems to be accurate from first glance. It is really what I was searching for Now I have on what to work on ... :) Thank you for your help! Michele Renda

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Carl Lobo
Try http://www.ashesh.net/blog/downloads/PDF/Mobile_Telephone_Number_Codes_India.pdf Seems to be accurate from first glance. On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Michele Renda wrote: > Il 29/12/2008 13:26, Gora Mohanty ha scritto: >> It varies a bit in India, but one common format for landlines >>

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 13:26, Gora Mohanty ha scritto: > It varies a bit in India, but one common format for landlines > (typically 8 digits) is +91 XXX ABCD EFGH (the XXX is the area > code, which is prefixed by a zero from within India, and can be > upto 5 digits), e.g., +91 11 4277 0045 from outside Indi

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread William Kenworthy
Australia: Mobiles: 04nn nnn nnn (mobiles all *seem* to be prefixed as 04 - may or may not be true) Local fixed: (I think some small country areas have smaller number sets, but capitols have 8 digits) Interstate fixed: (0n) + is usually only seen with international numbers. e

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 13:26, Alexandre Ghisoli ha scritto: > It's not so easy, because there are many codes inside a country. > For example, switzerland: > > +41 79 xxx xx xx > > But for voice boxes : > +41 860 xx xxx xx xx > > Special services > +41 [8-9]xx xxx xx xx > > > The idea would be a syntax to al

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Il 29/12/2008 13:20, Roland Mas ha scritto: >For France (+33), the usual format is +33 # ## ## ## ## > (international format) or 0# ## ## ## ## (without the international > prefix) Thank you for your answer. I have a question: this is valid for every number? (both Fix and Mobil?) And for you.

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Alexandre Ghisoli
Le Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:00:01 +0100, Michele Renda a écrit : > Hello to all > > I would like to know how do you like to read the phone number: > > I try to explain: when we read a phone number we usually like to > separe it with some spaces or signs: > for example in Italy when someone give me a

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Roland Mas
Michele Renda, 2008-12-29 13:00:01 +0100 : > Please, who has some time, can you please write your country (Italy, > France, etc.) and the way how usually is normal to read a phone > number in your country (with international prefix) For France (+33), the usual format is +33 # ## ## ## ## (inter

How do you like to read a phone number?

2008-12-29 Thread Michele Renda
Hello to all I would like to know how do you like to read the phone number: I try to explain: when we read a phone number we usually like to separe it with some spaces or signs: for example in Italy when someone give me a mobile phone number I usually write: +39 347 123456 Or if it is a fixed