I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :((

2007-03-14 Thread Robert Michel
Mike (or better everybody new to this project/list)! I'm in favor to welcome everybody on this list, to respect him and to help that his interest, effort and skills will be supported and answered that it is most efficent for him and the community. But as hard as I try to stay patient and

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :((

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Robert Michel wrote: PS: Ahh, and when your aim is to sabotage openmoko (or someone would try it in your style) your noise will not stopp anybody here who is seriously active on/with openmoko - no it will/would strengthen the community. Yeah, through all that ranting I think I/we actually laid

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :((

2007-03-14 Thread Eric Heinemann
why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :(( Robert Michel wrote: PS: Ahh, and when your aim is to sabotage openmoko (or someone would try it in your style) your noise will not stopp anybody here who is seriously active on/with openmoko - no it will/would strengthen the community

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :((

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Eric Heinemann wrote: Guys/Gals, Cingular is not clear as to which data plan is the proper one to purchase for a specific phone. Some reps are well informed, while others are not. I currently have a Blackjack, and after 3 days of asking which is the proper plan I just decided to screw it

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :( (

2007-03-14 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
well the wap apn would make me suspicious if you'll get normal internet connectivity with it. But yes if it's only wap, and if the final version will include a wap browser, then yes, the Neo will work with the plan. OTOH you might something different than what you expect from it.

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :( (

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: well the wap apn would make me suspicious if you'll get normal internet connectivity with it. But yes if it's only wap, and if the final version will include a wap browser, then yes, the Neo will work with the plan. OTOH you might something different than what you

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :( (

2007-03-14 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:07:25 Jonathon Suggs wrote: Andreas The wap APN does provide generic internet access. But the difference is that is uses a NAT'ed private IP address. Therefore you probably can't use it with a VPN (you would need PDA Connect if that is a requirement for you).

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :( (

2007-03-14 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :( ( Autor: Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 14. März 2007 16:7:25 Andreas Kostyrka wrote: well the wap apn would make me suspicious if you'll get normal internet connectivity with it. But yes if it's only wap, and if the final

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :( (

2007-03-14 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
NAT makes life harder for a VPN, but not impossible. The easiest case is if you've got a machine tucked away someplace that doesn't use NAT, you can use it as an openvpn server and have all the clients hidden behind NATed firewalls. That's actually what I do -- I've got an old machine under my

Re: I know why I dislike anonymous participants on mailinglists :( (

2007-03-14 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070314 16:37]: On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:07:25 Jonathon Suggs wrote: Andreas The wap APN does provide generic internet access. But the difference is that is uses a NAT'ed private IP address. Therefore you probably can't use it with a VPN (you