>The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some
>simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you
>always need to scroll)
Why do all of you insist on using scrolling as the only metaphor to present
excerpts of large content? Given the physica
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:27:03 +0200 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
said:
> >The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some
> >simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you
> >always need to scroll)
>
> Why do all of you insist on using scrolling
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
wrote:
>>The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some
>>simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you
>>always need to scroll)
>
> Why do all of you insist on using scrolling as the
-[ Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:27:03AM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ]
> > [scrolling]
>
> There are other metaphors available that would fit the device's
> strengths much better. What about paging?
Reading an ebook or looking a webpage or a map is better with scrolling
I guess.
Apart from that,
Hi
>>> [scrolling]
>> There are other metaphors available that would fit the device's
>> strengths much better. What about paging?
+1 for paging. mind you, I dont need a button for
paging, a gesture could do it. which makes
it feel very much like scrolling again, but
then more solid.
$2c,
*-pike
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:42:16 +1100
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) (CH(R) wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:27:03 +0200 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
> said:
>
>> >The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to
>> >display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on
>> >a
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:16:22 +0100 Petr Vanek said:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:42:16 +1100
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) (CH(R) wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:27:03 +0200 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
> > said:
> >
> >> >The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to
> >> >dis
> lots of alpha blending - if you have the 16bit engine you get no
> scale cache (thats 32bit engine only). but worst.. is the font
> style. check carefully. text has a soft dropshadow. that is drawn
> by 1. drawing the shadow first and that draw 25 copies of the text
> with very faint alpha. THEN
Petr Vanek wrote:
>> lots of alpha blending - if you have the 16bit engine you get no
>> scale cache (thats 32bit engine only). but worst.. is the font
>> style. check carefully. text has a soft dropshadow. that is drawn
>> by 1. drawing the shadow first and that draw 25 copies of the text
>> with
>> @Bernd Prünster: you are already very good with this, it would be
>> good to see the difference, if not used already... mind to try the
>> above in gry* ?
>>
>gry* doesnt use dropshadow, it was one of the forst thigs i kicked
>out, gry* uses a white outline on black text.
>but thats something
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:37:06 +0100 Petr Vanek said:
> >> @Bernd Prünster: you are already very good with this, it would be
> >> good to see the difference, if not used already... mind to try the
> >> above in gry* ?
> >>
> >gry* doesnt use dropshadow, it was one of the forst thigs i kicked
> >
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:12:29 +0100 Bernd Prünster
said:
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> >> lots of alpha blending - if you have the 16bit engine you get no
> >> scale cache (thats 32bit engine only). but worst.. is the font
> >> style. check carefully. text has a soft dropshadow. that is drawn
> >> by 1. d
CH(R> > btw can you already change the background image in Illume
settings? i CH(R> > still get the "Enlightenment was unable to import
the image due to CH(R> > conversion errors" ?
CH(R>
CH(R> u are probably missing edje_cc from the distro
thanks, this was it. i have already reported it distro m
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> gry* doesnt use dropshadow, it was one of the forst thigs i kicked out,
>> gry* uses a white outline on black text.
>> but thats something thats bugging me. i have to make some tests...
>>
>
> even that can be slow. in this case, the text will be dra
2009/10/28 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer :
>
> Why do all of you insist on using scrolling as the only metaphor to present
> excerpts of large content? Given the physical size of the display and the
> hardware constraints (touchscreen jitter, for a start... not going to comment
> on the Glamo) I think thi
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Neil Jerram wrote:
> I think it would be more usable (instead of having to scroll) to have
> multiple pages of icons, which you switch between using the same < and
>> as for switching between apps. (i.e. each icon page acts like
> another app)
To not confuse with
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:44 AM, wrote:
>
> Reading an ebook or looking a webpage or a map is better with scrolling
> I guess.
>
>
>
I've been using my FR with ePdfView to read books quite a bit lately, and I
always read a full screen of text and then click on the scrollbar to move to
the next sc
Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Neil Jerram wrote:
I think it would be more usable (instead of having to scroll) to have
multiple pages of icons, which you switch between using the same < and
as for switching between apps. (i.e. each icon page acts like
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:38:46 +0100 Bernd Prünster
said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >> gry* doesnt use dropshadow, it was one of the forst thigs i kicked out,
> >> gry* uses a white outline on black text.
> >> but thats something thats bugging me. i have to make some tests...
> >
> To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following scenario:
> 1. double click for launching an app
>
>
> why double click ? for me, i am using double click for a menu and a single
> click for starting the app.
Because when sliding, you can have accidental clicks. I know it from
Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following scenario:
1. double click for launching an app
why double click ? for me, i am using double click for a menu and a single
click for starting the app.
Because when sliding, you can have accidental c
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:47:27 +0100 Matthias Huber
said:
> Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
> >> To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following
> >> scenario:
> >> 1. double click for launching an app
> >>
> >>
> >> why double click ? for me, i am using double click for a menu and a sin
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:47:27 +0100 Matthias Huber
said:
Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following
scenario:
1. double click for launching an app
why double click ? for me, i am using double cl
Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Matthias Huber
wrote:
that's exact what i told you, what openbox has: they say: if movement <
number_pixels then its click,
if movement >= pixels, its slide.
in your case, one could hava a hysteresis over the time: if a single click
c
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Matthias Huber
wrote:
> that's exact what i told you, what openbox has: they say: if movement <
> number_pixels then its click,
> if movement >= pixels, its slide.
>
> in your case, one could hava a hysteresis over the time: if a single click
> comes shortly after
2009/10/31 Carsten Haitzler
> you pressed just once - or you think you did. but you actually had a press,
> a
> release, and a press , release etc. again because your pressure went above,
> below and above the "pressure level" needed to register a click.
>
What's the "pressure level"? Is it in t
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:34:17 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS
said:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Matthias Huber
> wrote:
> > that's exact what i told you, what openbox has: they say: if movement <
> > number_pixels then its click,
> > if movement >= pixels, its slide.
> >
> > in your case, one could h
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:21:13 +0100 Matthias Huber
said:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:47:27 +0100 Matthias Huber
> > said:
> >
> >
> >> Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
> >>
> To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following
> s
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:38:59 +0100 Michal Brzozowski said:
> 2009/10/31 Carsten Haitzler
>
> > you pressed just once - or you think you did. but you actually had a press,
> > a
> > release, and a press , release etc. again because your pressure went above,
> > below and above the "pressure leve
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