Joachim Steiger wrote:
also things like high-clocked ram (ddr compared to simple sdram) or
internal usb connections are energy suckers (thats why sdram with
200mhz and things like sdio/spi/i2c/cmoslevel-serial is preferred to
usb and ddr ram.
Shouldn't DDR ram use less power than SDR because
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:54:34 -0700 Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
though we need to accept that we need to move beyond SDR into DDR/DDR2 ram
and higher clockrates anyway - we need more performance to do the things
people want, we just
Amd is working on their Fusion CPU/GPU. That would be perfect for mobile
devices ;)
Maybe gta04?
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:25:14 -0700 (PDT) abatrour [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Amd is working on their Fusion CPU/GPU. That would be perfect for mobile
devices ;)
Maybe gta04?
call us when they get to the 1 watt world. for now and for a while to come both
intel and amd's offerings are far
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:54:34 -0700 Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
though we need to accept that we need to move beyond SDR into DDR/DDR2 ram
and higher clockrates anyway - we need more
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:30:01 -0700 Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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aaah - i was not really thinking of high quality audio filters - i was really
thinking ok.. it's a phone - an embedded device. for entertainment and regular
daily use - we need really volume adjustment (to be able to
You must start to realize just how low power mobile devices must be, to
be actually useful. Geode, Atom, Fusion, everyone of these is a power
hog compared to ARM.
My vote goes for low clocked OMAP3530.
Best regards
Peter Kraker
abatrour pravi:
Amd is working on their Fusion CPU/GPU. That
I tried to sketch my idea of extensions for openmoko and the result is
placed in the wiki
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Expansion_Back
I dont know how feasible it can be in terms of design and power
requirements. But thats what I
had in my mind and I think thats what open source is all
:00 AM, Jeffery Davis wrote:
Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel
Atom? They're launching dual-core
models soon at around $43. Battery life would probably be somewhat
less
than it would continuing with ARM, though
On Thu, August 14, 2008 4:25 am, Urivan Saaib wrote:
What about the QC Snapdragon?
snip
Qualcomm have a history of being a very litigious company. Just look at
their ongoing litigation with Nokia over CDMA patents. I would be worried
that if we got on the wrong side of them, they would sue
got some info on TI 3530 and beagleborad:
Que: video quality with only the openly available information and code?
Ans: The FFmpeg 720p demo was put together with all open source software.
Video using the DSP is pending.
Que: how open will be the various interfaces and drivers
Ans: The
All this discussion is going on this thread
http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/312ee38463d91380
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Pritam Ghanghas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
got some info on TI 3530 and beagleborad:
Que: video quality with only the openly available
When the 2D/3D graphics drivers are released, only the kernel portions
will be GPL. The user-space libraries will be closed source by the
current plan of record.
I guess this is good enough. I dont think we are getting anything more
with Glamo as well
i don't think it is enough.
not
But is there a way out. They way all these graphics chip companies
behave we will never get a
graphics chip on moko. For the worst case scenario that something as
bad as that happens on the binary driver side. Openmoko employees will
still be able to access the code as licensees. And I am not
qrazi wrote:
The test referred to are with the nettop version of the Atom, the Atom N230.
That CPU is paired with a standard 945GC chipset, which consumes between 15
and 20 Watt. Hence the high power draws in those reviews.
Intel also has the Z series, which include speedstep for even lower
Joachim
thats also my conclusion: x86 is not ready yet for really mobile use.
fwiw, atom may not be ready, but there are a couple of system-on-chip
x86 cpus out there that might be interesting. Just how much power is
still in question, but there's geode from AMD, some VIA offerings, and
a
I totally think running an x86 CPU in the phone would be great for opening
up possibilities for hobbyist developers. ARM may be more efficient but if
this project is meant to really enable DIY projects, I think x86 would be
fantastic.
Part of what we've got to also keep in mind is that the power
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:32:22 +0200 Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
qrazi wrote:
The test referred to are with the nettop version of the Atom, the Atom N230.
That CPU is paired with a standard 945GC chipset, which consumes between 15
and 20 Watt. Hence the high power draws in
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
though we need to accept that we need to move beyond SDR into DDR/DDR2 ram and
higher clockrates anyway - we need more performance to do the things people
want, we just need to do it with the right generation of SOC that has reigned
these power
Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel
Atom? They're launching dual-core
models soon at around $43. Battery life would probably be somewhat less
than it would continuing with ARM, though.
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Jeffery Davis wrote:
Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel
Atom? They're launching dual-core
models soon at around $43. Battery life would probably be somewhat less
than it would continuing with ARM, though
wakeup
(acpi suspend/resume is abysmal)
Brad
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Jeffery Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel
Atom? They're launching dual-core
models soon at around $43. Battery life would probably be somewhat less
than
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've heard the support chips for atom have not been optimized for
saving power yet, so it may be another generation before atom +
chipset + solid state drive will be within any kind of reasonable
power budget for a
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Jeffery Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel
Atom? They're launching dual-core
models soon at around $43. Battery life would probably be somewhat less
than it would continuing with ARM, though
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