Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 30.04.2013 um 01:14 schrieb Christ van Willegen: > Hi, > > What we could do is have a special offer at the next Fosdem. If > _everyone_ (thousands of people...) (or 90% of the people there) > pledges an $x amount of money, they will get a Free (as-in-speech) > phone. That way, you can probabl

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-29 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, What we could do is have a special offer at the next Fosdem. If _everyone_ (thousands of people...) (or 90% of the people there) pledges an $x amount of money, they will get a Free (as-in-speech) phone. That way, you can probably cut down the production cost to a 'reasonable' amount (300-250 E

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-10 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:22:39 AM Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > The key to open the GTA04 door is getting more units into one production > batch. But without demand (for the only free and open smart handheld that > really is available) it does not work. > > So we unfortunately have to po

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:59:03 +0200 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > > Am 02.04.2013 um 22:35 schrieb Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli: > > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100 > > "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > > > >> So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5 > >> boards, un

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-03 Thread Matteo Zaffonato
Il 26/03/2013 11.22, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ha scritto: Hi all, end of march is coming closer which was the original date scheduled for shipment and some of you are waiting for a status information. [...] If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do! Nikolaus Schaller Just a simple i

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 02.04.2013 um 22:35 schrieb Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli: > On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100 > "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > >> So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5 boards, >> until someone manages to create more demand. >> >> This is a little sad, since we now h

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Tue 02 April 2013 22:42:36 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:58:10 +0100 > > Radek Polak wrote: > > I think there might be interest in encrypted GSM calls - those > > customers would be not worried by big price. It's just matter of > > implementing SW for it. > > There ar

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:58:10 +0100 Radek Polak wrote: > I think there might be interest in encrypted GSM calls - those > customers would be not worried by big price. It's just matter of > implementing SW for it. There are several solutions for that but using plain GSM won't work because of the TR

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5 boards, > until someone manages to create more demand. > > This is a little sad, since we now have solved all technological > problems and could start production

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Well, we all value different qualities. In addition to being libre, I would really like a bigger display and battery option, and a case for it. Maybe a 4" display - maybe bigger. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lis

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2013-03-26, wto o godzinie 16:13 +0100, joerg Reisenweber pisze: > Encrypted GSM calls are basically not feasible [cut] Seems it was done years ago [1] using CSD (data) channel: "Secure Voice is protecting you against GSM voice interception. Your mobile operator is not capable to recor

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 16:13:43 joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Encrypted GSM calls are basically not feasible > to transfer encrypted voice you need a data link between the both ME, GSM > creates GSM-codec voice path, not a data path. Means your data gets mangled > by carrier's audio processing. You

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 26.03.2013 um 17:00 schrieb Ed Kapitein: > <>< >> the kernel, boot loader etc. >> >> If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do! >> >> Nikolaus Schaller >> > Hi Nikolaus, > > Thanks for your great and continued work on the GTA0x. > > Wouldn't it be nice if the GTA04 could be a s

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread Ed Kapitein
<>< > the kernel, boot loader etc. > > If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do! > > Nikolaus Schaller > Hi Nikolaus, Thanks for your great and continued work on the GTA0x. Wouldn't it be nice if the GTA04 could be a showcase for the upcoming Ubuntu phone? I think the Ubuntu phone

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread joerg Reisenweber
Encrypted GSM calls are basically not feasible to transfer encrypted voice you need a data link between the both ME, GSM creates GSM-codec voice path, not a data path. Means your data gets mangled by carrier's audio processing. You *can* *not* send data at a reasonable speed over a GSM voice cal

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:22:39 AM Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do! Hi Nikolaus, first of all thanks for all your work. It's quite sad that such nice project is attractive for only such small group of people. I dont think there was any

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-03-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.10.2012 um 14:50 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > We have started to plan the production of the next GTA04 batch. > This will include a minor board layout update (therefore the name > GTA04A5). For some details what will change, please see [1]. > > It is very important that we can estim

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2012-10-08 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.10.2012 um 14:50 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > We have started to plan the production of the next GTA04 batch. > This will include a minor board layout update (therefore the name > GTA04A5). For some details what will change, please see [1]. > > It is very important that we can estim

Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2012-10-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
We have started to plan the production of the next GTA04 batch. This will include a minor board layout update (therefore the name GTA04A5). For some details what will change, please see [1]. It is very important that we can estimate the real demand and depending on that set the right price. Theref