Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-07-02 Thread Knight Walker
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 20:54 +0800, xiangfu wrote: > may be can use SMS control the remote NEO like send > "#neo_command shutdown -h now " > then the neo poweroff : ) Something like this has been floating around the mailing list for months (or more) now. Personally, I'm hoping that the SMS stack i

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-07-02 Thread Knight Walker
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:24 -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote: > Doesn't IM requiere permanent connection? For status updates, etc? Not necessarily. A lot of us used IM back in the old dial-up days. I've done a lot of thinking on this subject over the last several years and tried several systems with

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-07-01 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:56:58 -0400 Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Think: The collapse of so many hi tech companies on our stock exchanges > has humbled many. Creators within the digital world -- no matter how > novel and exciting -- will have no value unless they impact the ma

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread arne anka
> it is exactly what we need :) we need to make people understand the > FreeRunner is unique, and can do things never imagined before! you mean, upping the apparent nerdiness of its owners? now they not only _speak_ incomprehensible but even send incomprehensible sms ... :-) ___

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread Francesco Cat
it is exactly what we need :) we need to make people understand the FreeRunner is unique, and can do things never imagined before! If I was planning an advertisement campaign, one of the facts I would focus is that the FreeRunner can be a USB host: this means using USB drives (including cameras, mp

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread arne anka
> There is also a nice feature that could be used with SMS: imagine that > the SMS is automatically shortened (eg by abbreviating words and stuff > like that) than it's compressed before being sent; there exists a similar application, done in (horrible dictu) j2me. a german university of applied s

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-29 Thread Yogiz
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:24:28 -0500 "Nelson Castillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mmm. > > Doesn't IM requiere permanent connection? For status updates, etc? > > I'd like to know what you think about two things: > > 1) We know email is broken (at least unsafe and prone to spam) > 2) What is the

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-28 Thread Lally Singh
Hmm, I'd personally like a good tor client on there. Of course, tor also needs more relays :-P Still, if we want real freedom, it's a step in the right direction. On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nelson Castillo wrote: > >> I think e

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-28 Thread Nelson Castillo
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nelson Castillo wrote: > >> I think encrypted messages are crucial for freedom. I also think most >> people don't know how easy it is for others to see what they send >> through the networks. I cannot wa

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-28 Thread Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo)
kenneth marken wrote: > On Saturday 28 June 2008 14:54:11 xiangfu wrote: >> may be can use SMS control the remote NEO like send >> "#neo_command shutdown -h now " >> then the neo poweroff : ) >> > > that could be worriesome without some kind of id system to verify that the > sender is someone tha

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-28 Thread kenneth marken
On Saturday 28 June 2008 14:54:11 xiangfu wrote: > may be can use SMS control the remote NEO like send > "#neo_command shutdown -h now " > then the neo poweroff : ) > that could be worriesome without some kind of id system to verify that the sender is someone that should have that kind of control

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-28 Thread xiangfu
may be can use SMS control the remote NEO like send "#neo_command shutdown -h now " then the neo poweroff : ) Francesco Cat wrote: > There is also a nice feature that could be used with SMS: imagine that > the SMS is automatically shortened (eg by abbreviating words and stuff > like that) than it'

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-28 Thread Francesco Cat
There is also a nice feature that could be used with SMS: imagine that the SMS is automatically shortened (eg by abbreviating words and stuff like that) than it's compressed before being sent; I tried once and there should be libraries that could fit the "dictionary" needed for extraction + 500 cha

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nelson Castillo wrote: > I think encrypted messages are crucial for freedom. I also think most > people don't know how easy it is for others to see what they send > through the networks. I cannot wait to see those Encrypted messages > traveling free through _their_ networks to

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread kenneth marken
On Saturday 28 June 2008 00:40:44 Nelson Castillo wrote: > >I am in Columbia. Drinking local coffee (yes Paola your coffee is > > thebest in the world) and thinking with the early morning clarity > > only those blessed with jag-lag can understand. > > Sean, > > I'm _really_ glad you enjoyed our Col

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread Nelson Castillo
>I am in Columbia. Drinking local coffee (yes Paola your coffee is > thebest in the world) and thinking with the early morning clarity > only those blessed with jag-lag can understand. Sean, I'm _really_ glad you enjoyed our Colombian Coffee, our food, and I hope you can keep in touch with the sp

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 2008-06-27, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Whenever I talk publicly about Openmoko, or so it seems, the following > question is asked: How can you compete again the giants of this > industry? For most of us, I'd like to think, the answer is obvious. > Instead of answering, I

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread William Lai
On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:57 PM, xiangfu wrote: > I feel the NEO is more than a phone. > the idear of neo is a artifact. the neo is a kind of life style. > iPod is an artifact for music lovers. Music is part of their lifestyle. The Neo is part of the lifestyle of every engineer that I work with

Re: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread xiangfu
k. > > At certain times, the amateur has a distinct advantage over the > professional. A professional knows what they can deliver, and rarely > goes beyond it. An amateur has no concept of their limitations and > usually goes well beyond them. Experience teaches us our limits.

RE: Let us impact the material world

2008-06-27 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
their limitations and usually goes well beyond them. Experience teaches us our limits. When we have learned that and become complacent, we are finished, because our work can be calculated and measured. Our work ceases to be a weapon. Now is such a time. Let us ignore limitations. Let us create new

Let us impact the material world

2008-06-26 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
y goes well beyond them. Experience teaches us our limits. When we have learned that and become complacent, we are finished, because our work can be calculated and measured. Our work ceases to be a weapon. Now is such a time. Let us ignore limitations. Let us create new technologies that breed ne