Hello Openmoko community,
I have come across a Chinese mobile phone forum containing a decent
quantity of leaked/liberated Calypso GSM chipset documents:
http://www.52rd.com/bbs/Forum_68_13_0.html
It's all in Chinese and seems to use some kind of credit system to
restrict how much one can downlo
msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael Sokolov) writes:
> Yes, their cooperation with TI is voluntary in my eyes. The NDA is no
> excuse. The possessors of those NDA-controlled materials were/are
> perfectly within their power to leak the warez and use the NDA as toilet
> paper. If I had been in that
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> If Openmoko Inc. had had such a reputation I doubt TI would have given
> them anything in the first place.
Holes in that argument:
1. Openmoko Inc. was a brand-new company created for the express purpose
of doing the free / open source phone project. Being a bra
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 22:06, Michael Sokolov wrote:
> Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
>
>> If Openmoko Inc. had had such a reputation I doubt TI would have given
>> them anything in the first place.
>
> Holes in that argument:
>
> 1. Openmoko Inc. was a brand-new company created for the express pur
Hi Michael,
> If you purposefully lie to your comrade, that is in violation of
> Communist ethics.
It's really rare to find Communists now, espesially rare to meet USSR
citizens.
But imagine how different are people in open source community. For me
most impressive were some man from Iran who r
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> Calypso wasn't brought by Openmoko Inc. as company. Previously it was
> part of bigger company, FIC - I guess that's why they got it. It was
> much later when Openmoko Inc. was splitted into another, standalone
> company.
OK, that's fine. In that regard FIC can b
Em 27-09-2011 07:37, Michael Sokolov escreveu:
So to those one or two ex-Openmoko employees who have a copy of the
Calypso fw source stashed away on a personal hard drive somewhere, but
who are not admitting to that and not sharing the ware: what is stopping
you from sharing? Why are you being B
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> As such, this is the kind of information that is not very desireable to be
> associated with a Free Software project, because even if the developers
> had no problem publishing it, it would be very likely no distributor would
> ever like it, and even the ISPs used
msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael Sokolov) writes:
> Yup, technical aspects such as the Calypso chipset and its firmware.
> Before we can start improving the latter, we need to obtain a copy of
> whatever at least partially modifiable source the Openmoko company
> had.
But why? All OM had were som
Paul Fertser wrote:
> But why? All OM had were some loosy sources for the gpio (and such)
> init plus AT intepreter. No lower layers at all, only blobs. OsmocomBB
> is already doing _much more_, so those "original sources" would add
> nothing to it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought
msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael Sokolov) writes:
> But if they aren't there yet, I will *not* abstain from hacking TI's
> original code, assuming that I can succeed in physically laying my
> hands on it, however illegal it may be.
What exactly do you want to change in it? Disabling RRLP? Having
Paul Fertser wrote:
> What exactly do you want to change in it? Disabling RRLP? Having AT
> command intepreter sources wouldn't help it, also i'm not sure if the
> original firmware had that "functionality" implemented in the first
> place.
I have no way of knowing a priori whether I would want/
> 1. Acting on the authority of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the
>Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the decrees of V. I. Lenin,
>declare TI's copyright on the ware to be null and void in the USSR
>jurisdiction
Not a good idea, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-par
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 18:23 +, Michael Sokolov wrote:
> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought OsmocomBB still runs GSM
> layers 2 and 3 on the external host, not on the Calypso itself, right?
> And no in-call handover yet, no SMS yet, probably nothing even close
> to
> deep sleep mode y
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
> Not a good idea, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html
There are some major differences between what I'm doing (and have been
doing all my life) and the stereotypical "pirate":
* The stereotypical "pirate" is content with the mediocre quality and
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
> * there was an abandoned port of nuttx, [...]
Before we can have any meaningful discourse on the relative merits of
various options, we first need to be on an equal footing. Right now we
are not. At the present moment there exist two massive inequalities in
the
Hi,
On 09/26/2011 10:06 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote:
The fact that the USSR no longer exists as a political entity
On 09/27/2011 09:48 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote:
declare TI's copyright on the ware to be null and void in the USSR
jurisdiction;
I don't really want to get into this discu
I really like statement in openbsd mantra "Shut Up and Code".
You want to get stolen sources and asking developers to break signed
NDA. Just want to note - new/modified firmware based on stolen sources
will cause legal problems not only for OpenMoko project but for idea of
the free phone itsel
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