Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-23 Thread dwight at supercomputer.org
On Friday 23 February 2007 06:40, Ian Stirling wrote: > David Pinto wrote: > > Expect the large carriers to do whatever they can to prevent from open > > platforms to gain market share. One of their biggest concerns is turning > > from *Cellular Service Providers* into *Wireless Network Providers*

RE: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-23 Thread David Pinto
fodder for Neo: FCC presentation David Pinto wrote: > Expect the large carriers to do whatever they can to prevent from open > platforms to gain market share. One of their biggest concerns is turning > from *Cellular Service Providers* into *Wireless Network Providers* (which > is exac

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-23 Thread Ian Stirling
David Pinto wrote: Expect the large carriers to do whatever they can to prevent from open platforms to gain market share. One of their biggest concerns is turning from *Cellular Service Providers* into *Wireless Network Providers* (which is exactly what Neo will catalyze). There are suggestions b

RE: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-23 Thread David Pinto
with the smaller MVNO, which will see the Neo/OpenMoko as a business opportunity rather than a threat. DP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:37 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation Clearly

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(MCC) by distributing and supporting MCC oriented software. Alan Original Message: - From: Michael Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:51:47 -0500 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation On Thursday 22 February 2007

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Sam Kome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070222 20:50]: > Yes, if the phone in question has been locked to another carrier: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidy_lock Well, that's not the carrier stoping you, it's the phone. You know, there are sources for unlocked phones, like stores selling them. They j

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Nathan Eckenrode
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > On Thursday 22 February 2007 18:21:51 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Now, while I'm not fan of Skype with their anti-open standards stance >> (with their proprietary and secret signaling), I do see this action as >> a good thing for the open source community. Skype is th

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Michael Murphy
On Thursday 22 February 2007 2:22 pm, Jeff Andros wrote: > On 2/22/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 22 February 2007 19:43:26 Sam Kome wrote: > > > Yes, if the phone in question has been locked to another carrier: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidy_lock > > > >

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Jeff Andros
On 2/22/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 22 February 2007 19:43:26 Sam Kome wrote: > Yes, if the phone in question has been locked to another carrier: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidy_lock > Still, nobody really forces you to buy SIM locked phone for all I know. I

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 22 February 2007 19:43:26 Sam Kome wrote: > Yes, if the phone in question has been locked to another carrier: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidy_lock > Still, nobody really forces you to buy SIM locked phone for all I know. If you want cheap phones, that is usually the price... _

RE: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Sam Kome
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel Ambuehl Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:42 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation On Thursday 22 February 2007 18:21:51 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Now, wh

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 22 February 2007 18:21:51 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Now, while I'm not fan of Skype with their anti-open standards stance > (with their proprietary and secret signaling), I do see this action as > a good thing for the open source community. Skype is the 800 > lb. gorilla of voice

Re: Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
> "Wu claims "wireless carriers [are] aggressively controlling product > design and innovation in the equipment and application markets, to the > detriment of consumers."" -EE Times For those that haven't seen it yet, Skype is getting in on the action and petitioning the FCC to apply the 1968 "Ca

Marketing fodder for Neo: FCC presentation

2007-02-22 Thread Sam Kome
http://eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=197006889 http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=962027 "Wu claims "wireless carriers [are] aggressively controlling product design and innovation in the equipment and application markets, to the detriment of consumers.