Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-17 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Martin Larsson wrote: Sure, that's what he is saying. But it isn't possible to make DRM with free software. That's what he's not understanding. No, there is something more basic he is not understanding. This is it: If a player decides not play along, that player is a disruptive force.

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-15 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Saturday 14 June 2008 10:50:12 Federico Lorenzi wrote: This has been beaten to death in previous threats. You are not getting the phone for free, you are merely paying for it in your contract. With most carriers I know, you actually do get it for free in a sense because you would pay as

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-14 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Saturday 14 June 2008 03:24:25 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: A lot of people look for the worst in others, and i try to generally play the other side. Look in the snip i did above, and try to read what else the guy is saying: He doesn't like DRM in principle, but realise that the

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-14 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for SIM locks and subsidised business models, it seems like a valid trade off to me. Get a phone much cheaper than it would cost on its own but only use it on our network. As long as there are unlocked version of the

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-14 Thread Martin Larsson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look in the snip i did above, and try to read what else the guy is saying: He doesn't like DRM in principle, but realise that the carriers like it enough that if Nokia's handsets did not support it, they

OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-13 Thread Stroller
Open-source developers targeting the mobile space need to learn business rules including digital rights management, Nokia's software chief has claimed. Speaking at the Handsets World conference in Berlin on Tuesday, Dr Ari Jaaksi told delegates that the open-source community needed

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-13 Thread Andy Powell
On Friday 13 June 2008 19:47, Stroller wrote: Open-source developers targeting the mobile space need to learn business rules including digital rights management, Nokia's software chief has claimed. Speaking at the Handsets World conference in Berlin on Tuesday, Dr Ari Jaaksi

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-13 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 06/13/2008 02:47 PM, Stroller wrote: Open-source developers targeting the mobile space need to learn business rules including digital rights management, Nokia's software chief has claimed. ... Full article:

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-13 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Friday 13 June 2008 Andy Powell wrote: Why do we need closed vehicles? We do, he said. Some of these things harm the industry but they're here [as things stand]. Thanks for posting this. It has just highlighted how Nokia really still just don't get it. A lot of people look for the

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-13 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael T. Dean wrote: On 06/13/2008 02:47 PM, Stroller wrote: Open-source developers targeting the mobile space need to learn business rules including digital rights management, Nokia's software chief has claimed. ... Full article:

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-13 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering English is not his native language... I am sure something did not come through as he intended. I think what he means is this: Businesses are not yet ready to fully embrace open source as the community see's