Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-16 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On May 16, 2007, at 4:11 AM, Frank Coenen wrote: Sean, does this have to do with the recent shortage on LCD-displays in Taiwan? - Source: http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070508PD204.html Quote: "The supply of 2.2- to 2.5-inch panels for entry and medium-level DSCs began running short o

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-16 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On May 16, 2007, at 8:03 AM, polz wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to have device

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-16 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On May 16, 2007, at 2:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean wrote: "Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to have devices this month." That's cool.

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-16 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2007 02:03 schrieb polz: > > Can anyone here suggest an HTC phone which can be bought in Europe for less > than $400 and can run linux well enough to dial out and somehow connect to > a PC ? > apropos connect. The acx100_cs works since yesterday, so wifi can be used on Blueange

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Newsom
No problem.. It was more of a rhetorical(sp?) question anyway. I was just trying to point out that the situation was a bit different. --Tim On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:41, Robin Paulson wrote: ahh, damn gmail shitesorry tim from trolltech.com "Q. Did Trolltech design the phone? Are there othe

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Robin Paulson
ahh, damn gmail shitesorry tim from trolltech.com "Q. Did Trolltech design the phone? Are there other models to choose from? A. Trolltech worked very closely with one of our Qtopia-licensed ODM partners in China, Yuhua Teltech, to make this first, open platform Greenphone a reality. Trollte

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Newsom
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:16, Ian Stirling wrote: FIC is not a small company. http://www.fic.com.tw/about.htm Over 5000 employees isn't small. Smaller than Nokia/Sony, sure. But they are well over 20 times the size of Trolltech, who launched the greenphone. Ahh.. But who manufactured the har

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Robin Paulson wrote: damn gmail reply issues.posted agian with correct address On 5/16/07, polz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been > delayed about two weeks because of last

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Robin Paulson
damn gmail reply issues.posted agian with correct address On 5/16/07, polz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been > delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordin

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POLZ Wrote: "At least to me, the neo1973 is looking more and more like vapourware, an experiment in marketing, whose purpose is to: 1.) estimate the size of the potential market for OpenMoko devices 2.) see how long the hype will last. Can anyone here suggest an HTC phone which can be bought in

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 02:03, polz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > > > Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been > > delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination > > issues. But I'm still being told that we'r

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread polz
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been > delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination > issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to have devices this > month. At least to me, the neo1

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Frank Coenen
Sean, does this have to do with the recent shortage on LCD-displays in Taiwan? - Source: http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070508PD204.html Quote: "The supply of 2.2- to 2.5-inch panels for entry and medium-level DSCs began running short of demand by about 10% early last month and the shortage

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Jeff Andros
On 5/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sean wrote: We were all beginning to think the production run was finished and you guys were there at the factory just rolling around on big piles of them. mail2web

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sean wrote: "Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to have devices this month." That's cool. No problem with waiting a few more weeks. We were all

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread el jefe delito
maybe i was wrong about the FIC Neo1973 being previously used. No idea where I got that from, but it was in my head somehow. Sean, thanks for the update, even if its not the best news. We're all happy with the openness of the production information. _

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 17:51 -0500, Jason Elwell wrote: > > On Monday 14 May 2007 14:46:08 Duncan Hudson wrote: > > So, if I was a betting man I'd say that it either > > didn't go off, or another show stopper / slip causer popped up. > > Lets hope you are a crappy gambler. :) > > Seriously thoug

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Word here is that this phone's hardware is still stuck on the assemply line. FIC was supposed to do the first production run on May 10th and we have yet to hear from anybody about how that went. Oh man, let's hope that it did not really get stuck or even explode on the assembly line and n

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.05.2007 um 14:37 schrieb el jefe delito: >Right, the first version isn't supposed to be a mass market consumer >device. But I believe the intention >is that the version that was intended to ship in September was to be a >mass market device. I was under the impression that this phone

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Jason Elwell
That is news to me. The only other project planning to use neo1073 AFAIK is a recent announcement by Sun to build some sort of mobile platform. They used the neo1973 as a mockup in the press release... Word here is that this phone's hardware is still stuck on the assemply line. FIC was suppos

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread el jefe delito
>Right, the first version isn't supposed to be a mass market consumer device. But I believe the intention >is that the version that was intended to ship in September was to be a >mass market device. I was under the impression that this phone was already produced and available in Asia, a

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-14 Thread Jon Phillips
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:07 -0400, Alan Ide wrote: > Agreed. It has been REALLY quite for the last month or so. We still > dont have any "verified" working phase 1. We havent heard anything > about the production run. We havent heard jack about the phase 1+. Its > starting to feel like we are being

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-14 Thread Alan Ide
Agreed. It has been REALLY quite for the last month or so. We still dont have any "verified" working phase 1. We havent heard anything about the production run. We havent heard jack about the phase 1+. Its starting to feel like we are being very left out of the loop. And since its us the "developm

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-14 Thread Jason Elwell
On Monday 14 May 2007 14:46:08 Duncan Hudson wrote: > So, if I was a betting man I'd say that it either > didn't go off, or another show stopper / slip causer popped up. Lets hope you are a crappy gambler. :) Seriously though, It is starting to get a little annoying that we have not heard anyth

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-14 Thread Duncan Hudson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jefe.. This is just my opinion here, but I don't see the Neo1973 to be a mass consumer device, nor do I think that is/was FIC's/OpenMoko's intent. The 1973 is a SW Developer/"Bleeding Edge Adopter" platform. Its a starting place and an incubator for ideas. I would not

RE: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jefe.. This is just my opinion here, but I don't see the Neo1973 to be a mass consumer device, nor do I think that is/was FIC's/OpenMoko's intent. The 1973 is a SW Developer/"Bleeding Edge Adopter" platform. Its a starting place and an incubator for ideas. I would not expect serious drop hardeni