Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Fabian Off
Hey! I personally really like this idea and I'd be glad to test your plugin :) It'd fit fine into my NetBeans. Finally it'll get a use besides being abused for php-scripting... Testing on Kubuntu Hardy 8.04 & Mac OS X 10.5.2 if you want. Greetings, Fabian Off - Ursprüngliche Mail Von:

RE: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Crane, Matthew
What's wrong with Eclipse? It's much more common for embedded IDE's isn't it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: OM IDE (was: Re: Common L

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
Eclipse has a faster widget toolkit, but it tends to be a lot buggier & dumber about a lot of things. You end up spending a lot more time fiddling with it to work right than NB. The tradeoff w/NB is that it tends to do the right thing, but is slower. Definitely so on my mac, but the speed differ

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Hmm... KDevelop 4? (it's being reimplemented and is looking super-nifty by now) :) Wednesday 07 May 2008 skrev Lally Singh: > Nah, I'd been planning on getting haskell up for OM. They already > have a basic ARM target for ghc, and there's already a haskell->GTK > mapping. > > But, now that we're

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
You're welcome to do so :-) I use NB for development for my day job & the PhD. I also have no respect for KDevelop. I think it's almost as terrible as Visual Studio. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm... KDevelop 4? (it's being reimplemen

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C. But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over to you. So when it's "finished" I will insta

RE: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Crane, Matthew
2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM)) Eclipse has a faster widget toolkit, but it tends to be a lot buggier & dumber about a lot of things. You end up spending a lot more time fiddling with it to work

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:19 PM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > > > Subject: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM)) > > > Eclipse has a faster widget toolkit, but it tends to be a lot buggier > & dumber about a lot of things. You e

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Wednesday 07 May 2008 skrev Lally Singh: > You're welcome to do so :-) > > I use NB for development for my day job & the PhD. I also have no > respect for KDevelop. I think it's almost as terrible as Visual > Studio. Note, please, that i said KDevelop 4, not KDevelop ;) There's a huge differe

RE: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Crane, Matthew
PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM)) You're welcome to do so :-) I use NB for development for my day job & the PhD. I also have no respect for KDevelop. I think it's almost as terrible as Visual Studio.

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I use vim, and it is the best IDE I have ever used:) (My point is that it is impossible to get people to agree on one IDE, since we all have different taste and needs) -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Bastian Muck ha scritto: Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C. But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over to you. So when it's "finished" I will install Netbeans, too. Co

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't know how fast your computer is, but i never had performance issues. Even in a VMWare-Image my Eclipse worked very fine (and I don't think I'm a slow hacker). The only thing, which can be slow is the code-completion. But this can be deaktiva

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-08 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Lally Singh ha scritto: Just to clarify, NB would run on a desktop computer, and cross compile for OM. I'm imagining a situation not unlike CW for Palm (I had to dev on that a few years ago). It compiles the code and uploads it to the emulator, which you can run the debugger on. Then you uploa

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-11 Thread Stefan Gojan
Hi, I want to use it with Ubuntu ;) I'm new to the OM community, so I'm wondering if you are the first one who want to build such thing. Isn't there any existing IDE integration for the OM? Lally Singh schrieb: Nah, I'd been planning on getting haskell up for OM. They already have a basic

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-11 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I was thinking about putting together a Netbeans plugin to dev for it. | I'm wondering: | 1. anyone want to use such a thing? | 2. anyone wanna help? \-- Try this? https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/preity-plugi

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-12 Thread Lally Singh
Excellent! Perhaps I'll be able to reuse/extend the work here for a common backend, and then just write a Netbeans frontend to use it. On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > --- On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Jeremy List
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > Bastian > Muck ha scritto: >> Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I >> don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C. >> But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to writ

Re: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
Just to clarify, NB would run on a desktop computer, and cross compile for OM. I'm imagining a situation not unlike CW for Palm (I had to dev on that a few years ago). It compiles the code and uploads it to the emulator, which you can run the debugger on. Then you upload it to your OM device, an