Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-08-08 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Matthew Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Instead of just tethering couldn't you set up a proxy server on your OM > and since the user agent is in plain text, change firefox to minimo? I > imagine the user agent signatures are pretty similar. I had a similar situati

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-08-08 Thread Matthew Lane
ian douglas wrote: > Ken Restivo wrote: > >> They actually hire people to sit around and snoop people's UserAgent strings? >> > > It's easy to automate since surfing non-SSL sites should send your HTTP > headers in plain text, so they you can simply watch the packets and keep > track of dat

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-08-01 Thread ian douglas
Ken Restivo wrote: > They actually hire people to sit around and snoop people's UserAgent strings? It's easy to automate since surfing non-SSL sites should send your HTTP headers in plain text, so they you can simply watch the packets and keep track of data counts, browsers, etc. for each wireless

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-31 Thread Ken Restivo
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 09:25:45AM -0700, ian douglas wrote: > Ken Restivo wrote: > > Is there a specific limit? How do they *know* you are tethering? What are > > the overage fees and where are they detailed? > > > From what I've read, they watch your traffic for things like user agent > stri

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-31 Thread ian douglas
Ken Restivo wrote: > Is there a specific limit? How do they *know* you are tethering? What are the > overage fees and where are they detailed? From what I've read, they watch your traffic for things like user agent strings (if they see an HTTP header specifying that you're using Firefox, it's

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-31 Thread Ken Restivo
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:05:53PM -0700, ian douglas wrote: > Just don't try tethering (using your phone as a modem) on their cheap > data plan, or they'll hit you with "overage" fees or tell you to convert > to the smarthphone plan. > Is there a specific limit? How do they *know* you are tether

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-30 Thread Josh Monson
Jay Vaughan wrote: >> My question, and apologies for not being specific enough, was to allow >> the FR to host a website (maybe just w/ redirects or not) and/or an >> ftp >> server. >> Being able to ssh into my phone over the public internet and or serve >> content would be phenomenal. Has anyone

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
> My question, and apologies for not being specific enough, was to allow > the FR to host a website (maybe just w/ redirects or not) and/or an > ftp > server. > Being able to ssh into my phone over the public internet and or serve > content would be phenomenal. Has anyone dug into this? i have

RE: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-30 Thread Josh Monson
: Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible? > > I can do that, if my phone is connected to my home wireless network. > Likewise, but it would be nice if we had some dyndns support pre- configured so that Freerunners everywhere could function, rightly so, as pocket-based web servers

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-30 Thread Alex Kavanagh
Jay Vaughan wrote, On 30/07/08 09:37: >> I can do that, if my phone is connected to my home wireless network. >> >> > > Likewise, but it would be nice if we had some dyndns support pre- > configured so that Freerunners everywhere could function, rightly so, > as pocket-based web servers.

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
> > I can do that, if my phone is connected to my home wireless network. > Likewise, but it would be nice if we had some dyndns support pre- configured so that Freerunners everywhere could function, rightly so, as pocket-based web servers. I love the idea of being able to see, physically on

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
> I'll try to follow some of other people's instructions (they seem to > be > scattered all over the place) and see if I can get it working on > AT&T. I've > never tried this before, but if I should be so lucky, I'll create a > step-by-step tutorial for others to follow (or maybe write a script

RE: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread Dimitri
And, of course, you asked to SSH into your phone, not sftp. D'oh. In this case, using lint-wifi's status tab, you can see what IP your router has assigned to your phone, then open a terminal window and type: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your device] leave the password empty D Dimitri wrote: > >

RE: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread Dimitri
Josh, Not sure if that question was directed to me or Ian. I assume Ian, but maybe I can take a stab at it. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding, you're asking if it's possible to create an SSH connection to your phone via a wireless network? I can do that, if my phone is connected to my home

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread Dimitri
Wow. I'm surprised it hasn't been worked out yet. Seems like the most fundamental capability for an internet-enabled phone to have (second only to being able to make phone calls.) I'll try to follow some of other people's instructions (they seem to be scattered all over the place) and see if I ca

RE: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread Josh Monson
douglas Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:26 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible? Yes, to my knowledge, GPRS data transfer is not yet automated and not working out-of-the-box. A few people on the list have shared instructions on how they

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread ian douglas
Yes, to my knowledge, GPRS data transfer is not yet automated and not working out-of-the-box. A few people on the list have shared instructions on how they got it to at least connect to their carrier to get an IP address, but I haven't tried it myself on my AT&T (contract) SIM yet. -id Dimitri

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread Dimitri
Ian, When you say "GPRS data transfer is still being worked on" does that mean it doesn't currently work? I ask because my AT&T pay-as-you-go plan has MediaNet data access included, for $.01 / kb. But if I try to connect to a web page, it won't connect. (Using my local WiFi or USB connection, it

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread ian douglas
Just don't try tethering (using your phone as a modem) on their cheap data plan, or they'll hit you with "overage" fees or tell you to convert to the smarthphone plan. -id Steven ** wrote: > My understanding is that it's marketing BS and there isn't much (if > any) difference between those unlim

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread Steven **
My understanding is that it's marketing BS and there isn't much (if any) difference between those unlimited data plans. The difference seems to be what AT&T is willing to sell you. If you have a crappy old phone, they'll sell you a cheap data plan because they figure you won't use it. If you hav

Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

2008-07-29 Thread ian douglas
You'll probably need the PDA Personal plan, that's what they recommend to smartphone users, which the Freerunner will qualify as, in their opinion. But GPRS data transfer is still being worked on, so hold off paying the $30/month for unlimited data just yet. -id Dimitri wrote: > I've set up an