Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-28 Thread Tim Erwin
> darn, and I was really hoping it was a bottle opener! :-) Perhaps we can have this feature in future revisions ;-) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-27 Thread Jeff Andros
On 1/27/07, Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:51 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > On 1/27/07 7:12 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the design of the Moko which seems to have a > > nice place to put a lanyard. > Which will come in the box ;-) It las

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-27 Thread Redvers Davies
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:51 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > On 1/27/07 7:12 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the design of the Moko which seems to have a > > nice place to put a lanyard. > Which will come in the box ;-) It last, the purpose of the mysterious hole is made clear! Sem

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-27 Thread Richard Bennett
On Saturday 27 January 2007 00:12, Mary Stovel wrote: > Recently  I convinced a friend to get a prepaid   > cell phone and hang it around her neck when she went out in case she   > needed to call for help.  This allowed her greater freedom to leave   > home and sure was less expensive than some oth

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-27 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 1/27/07 7:12 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a thought. Recently I convinced a friend to get a prepaid > cell phone and hang it around her neck when she went out in case she > needed to call for help. This allowed her greater freedom to leave > home and sure was less e

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Mary Stovel
Greetings Rob and Sean, Thank you for welcoming me to the community! I have played catch up on the discussions going on here and it is very lively and interesting. I am now very excited about OpenMoko! I can well understand the excitement and desire to get ones hands on this phone

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 1/26/07 5:39 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The OpenMoko appeals to me because it is innovative and cool > looking. Also, I am tired of having to replace my phone...I have 5 > right now that are useless. I want a phone that can update and add > applications that I want.

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Richi Plana
This should be put on the Wiki under Advocacy (or similar): On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 09:16 +, Andrew Loughran wrote: > If anyone needs examples of how phones connect behind ones back, I can > provide a fair few. > > I had the O2 XDA Orbit. It looks like a smashing phone, but the software on >

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Bryan Fink
On 1/26/07, Tehn Yit Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a very interesting thread, it almost qualify as a very primitive market report for OpenMoko. :-) Great to hear that people are enjoying this thread. It seemed like a new direction I hadn't heard discussed before. For me personally,

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Bryan Fink
On 1/25/07, Wil Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Finally, by far the largest camp is the indifferent class. Many > > people are quick to ask, "Why would you want an open source phone?" > > Answers of the, "So I know exactly what my phone is doing at all times > > - no secrets," variety typi

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Tehn Yit Chin
Hey Bryan, This is a very interesting thread, it almost qualify as a very primitive market report for OpenMoko. :-) For me personally, I would like the phone to be a commercial success. Commercial success means a higher chance of version 2 & beyond of the phone being considered by FIC. Commerci

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Dave Crossland
On 26/01/07, Ben F-W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: if you tie that to a more specific example, it might help to get the concept across. I usually point out how the priorities of end users and those of operators differ: and it's the operators who are the manufacturer's biggest customers. For example,

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Loughran
If anyone needs examples of how phones connect behind ones back, I can provide a fair few. I had the O2 XDA Orbit. It looks like a smashing phone, but the software on it lets it down massively. The carrier have changed the software's functionality, so even when you disable GPRS connection (li

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-26 Thread Ben F-W
Bryan Fink wrote: Answers of the, "So I know exactly what my phone is doing at all times - no secrets," variety typically get you labeled paranoid. Answers of the, "Because I will be able to modify absolutely anything about it," Really interesting thread, Bryan - and definitely worth thinking ab

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On 25/01/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was > thinking, if the OpenMoko phone had an easy way for people to add > applications like the Widgets, the average user would like it. ( I > would be willing to pay the developer after a trial). I guess the most software will be free.

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mary! Welcome here on the OpenMoko community list :) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Mary Stovel wrote: > Just a few thoughts. I recently discovered OpenMoko while > researching the Apple iphone. I am not a developer, but enjoy > reading this forum. :) > I do not think the average user k

Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Mary Stovel
Just a few thoughts. I recently discovered OpenMoko while researching the Apple iphone. I am not a developer, but enjoy reading this forum. I do not think the average user knows much about... the concept of locked and unlocked... much less open. I am your general user, looking for a

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On 25/01/07, Wil Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd imagine if you draw parallels to the internet, the issue of malware and viruses inevitably crop up. Just telling people "Linux is more secure" probably doesn't alleviate fears. I probably wouldn't know what to say. Anyone wanna take that on

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Wil Chung
> Finally, by far the largest camp is the indifferent class. Many > people are quick to ask, "Why would you want an open source phone?" > Answers of the, "So I know exactly what my phone is doing at all times > - no secrets," variety typically get you labeled paranoid. Answers of > the, "Becaus

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread michael
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Bryan Fink wrote: Hi all. I've been talking up OpenMoko to everyone I know, and I felt like there may be some people around here who would be interested in the reactions I've gotten. The main camps are as you would expect: positively-excited, negatively-excited, and ind

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Bryan Fink
On 1/25/07, Bryan Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alas, I'm no marketing expert, and certainly not privy to Scott & co.'s plans. So, like everyone else here, I'm just excited and ready jump in and see what happens. Omg. I can't believe I just called Sean, "Scott". Many apologies. :P -Bryan

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Bryan Fink
On 1/25/07, Peter A Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I reckon I'll get a few developer converts for the phone if not to a desktop flavour of linux. That's actually something I'm anxious to see. Given that it's non-trivial to buy a computer (in the U.S.) with linux pre-loaded, and that people

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Bryan! You gave an interesting report about the reactions - thank you :) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Bryan Fink wrote: > Hi all. I've been talking up OpenMoko to everyone I know, and I felt > like there may be some people around here who would be interested in > the reactions I've gotten. > Fin

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Peter A Trotter
Hi Bryan, That's quite interesting feedback. I have only really brought this subject up with developer mates and one gadgetophile. The heavily windows leaning developers have expressed a cool enthusiasm but that will warm when they can see a product and get an idea for the sort of apps that are

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On 25/01/07, Bryan Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also surprisingly, the one truly negatively-excited person I met said exactly this, "Great, so I'll have a phone that just randomly crashes for no reason." I know that he has run Red Hat Linux, and codes for a living. But, he has had poor expe

Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

2007-01-25 Thread Bryan Fink
Hi all. I've been talking up OpenMoko to everyone I know, and I felt like there may be some people around here who would be interested in the reactions I've gotten. The main camps are as you would expect: positively-excited, negatively-excited, and indifferent. What I think is interesting, is w