Re: Using 3G USB dongle [Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device]

On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 09:59:49AM +0200, Sander wrote: > Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote (ao): > > > > I have been using E169 dongle quite a lot with freerunner. > > What do you use to connect the dongle and the FR? I'm looking for a > converter between the small FR port and the large dongle port. h

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:45:28 +0200 Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes said: > > Upgrade S3C2442B to S3C6410. > > Not that it matters, but the N810 seems to achieve really good > suspend/resume behaviour and excellent battery life with a dual core it never suspends/resumes. it is always runing. it uses an

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

> Upgrade S3C2442B to S3C6410. Not that it matters, but the N810 seems to achieve really good suspend/resume behaviour and excellent battery life with a dual core CPU, i.e. one high-performance core that suspends and another one that watches for touch-screen events, etc. and wakes up the other one

WPA2 Enterprice, Was: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

I'm in TU Eindhoven, we use wpa2 enterprise for wireless security. I used wpa_supplicant.conf like this: network={ ssid="tue-wpa2" key_mgmt=WPA-EAP eap=PEAP identity="my-indentity" password="my-secret" } and run wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf then dhclie

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:27:02PM -0700, Steve Mosher wrote: >> The GTA03 as a design had a recamping bug. it kept changing. and changes >> of course, are perceived as "easy". after all, hardware is just like >> software.. I won't go through all the iterations

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:27:02PM -0700, Steve Mosher wrote: > The GTA03 as a design had a recamping bug. it kept changing. and changes > of course, are perceived as "easy". after all, hardware is just like > software.. I won't go through all the iterations of GTA03. But it's > processor changed

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

See below Arigead wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Steve Mosher wrote: >> Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in >> SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into >> some version of the telephone game. >> >> Se

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

> Regardless of what you produce as Plan B, even if it's a hair didn't you mean: especially > straightener, I'll buy one. ;-) -- Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list commu

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 07:10:00PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > > I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that > > gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) > > Well due to the expense it is clear that no 3G device is going to

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Arigead wrote (ao): > Sander wrote: > > Related to this I'm looking for a converter between the small USB port > > on the FR and a 3G USB dongle (or a USB keyboard). I've searched but not > > found any. Any tips? > > I just use the usb micro cable that connects the FR to the PC and stick > a small

Re: Using 3G USB dongle [Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device]

Sander writes: > What do you use to connect the dongle and the FR? I'm looking for a > converter between the small FR port and the large dongle port. I just use the data cable that come with freerunner and a USB gender changer. This way I have minimum number of extra cables with me :-) I'd love

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

I can upload the files, but Let me tell you how we work together and you'll see why my email is probably your best bet to understand things, today. I work in words. Sean works in pictures. So by the time we are finished we have a presentation that is all pictures. and then sean talks to that. A

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 kimaidou wrote: > Hi > > There are a lot of small usb convertissers : > http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TCSYFC/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=A88Q2E8PA1VAL >

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

kimaidou wrote (ao): >There are a lot of small usb convertissers : >[1]http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TCSYFC/ref=ord_cart_shr?_e >ncoding=UTF8&m=A88Q2E8PA1VAL >[2]http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B000TCSYES >I use them with my Keyboard and usb stick, and it workds well

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

I had my FreeRunner replaced (under guarantee) by broken mini USB connector. These things are much more vulnerable than normal USB. Hence, I vote for normal USB. Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Friday, April 03, 2009 a las 09:48:51AM +0200, Sander escribió: > >> What about a FR without 3G but with

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sander wrote: > > Related to this I'm looking for a converter between the small USB port > on the FR and a 3G USB dongle (or a USB keyboard). I've searched but not > found any. Any tips? > I just use the usb micro cable that connects the FR to the P

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

El día Friday, April 03, 2009 a las 09:48:51AM +0200, Sander escribió: > What about a FR without 3G but with a 'normal' size USB2.0 port in which > you can plug a 3G dongle? > > This has several advantages: > > o FR would be more free > o FR would be less expensive > o only one expensive heavy d

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Hi There are a lot of small usb convertissers : http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TCSYFC/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=A88Q2E8PA1VAL http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B000TCSYES I use them with my Keyboard and usb stick, and it workds well Could someone give some link to working 3G usb

Re: Using 3G USB dongle [Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device]

Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote (ao): > Arigead writes: > > If you could get a hold of the plastic spacer could you then take a 3.5G > > USB Dongle and put that into the space? I think that 3.5G USB Dongles > > I have been using E169 dongle quite a lot with freerunner. What do you use to connect the

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Justyn Butler wrote (ao): > 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > > I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that > > gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) > > Well due to the expense it is clear that no 3G device is going to be > Openmoko's main phone for a long

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Mosher wrote: > Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in > SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into > some version of the telephone game. > > Sean discussed three things at OpenExpo.

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Sargun Dhillon wrote: > When will project B be announced? I have not made a final decision. First I need a solid schedule from engineering. That is, a schedule, with a high probability of hitting its target. Given the channels I expect to launch this in, there is no leeway for slips. I'm talk

Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Here is the link: http://www.openexpo.ch/fileadmin/documents/2009Bern/Slides/BusinessTrack/01_SeanMossPultz.pdf Ueli ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

> > Sean discussed three things at OpenExpo. > > 1. Our successes. > 2. Our mistakes. > 3. Our challenges > > I won't go over 1& 2 but I'll cover #3 since rasters perception has > a bit of color added to it. Only a tiny bit and he's entitled > to that color commentary, I'll just add what Sean and I

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:27:43 -0700 Steve Mosher said: nice steve :) and yes - i put a bit of color in. :) my opinions are not those of openmoko nor do they divine om's future... it's just my interpretation of the facts as they come out :) > Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the da

Using 3G USB dongle [Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device]

Arigead writes: > If you could get a hold of the plastic spacer could you then take a 3.5G > USB Dongle and put that into the space? I think that 3.5G USB Dongles I have been using E169 dongle quite a lot with freerunner. Since I did some udev setup [1] the hassle is minimal: I just plug the dong

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

ASU was like this while people were testing and expecting new 2007 releases. Diversity was like this. It seems like FSO started like this (I could be wrong). Can the internal company communication be more open? It's annoying if every 6 months another somewhat secret project is going to come to lig

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into some version of the telephone game. Sean discussed three things at OpenExpo. 1. Our successes. 2. Our mistakes. 3. Our challenges I won't go over 1& 2

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:05:06 +0800 "W.Kenworthy" said: > On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 11:10 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:35:58 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > > said: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > > > > 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 11:10 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:35:58 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > said: > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > > > 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : ... > 3g can be done - just like the 2g on feeerunner - you

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:35:58 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra said: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > > 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > > >> He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justyn Butler wrote: > A couple of days ago Sean made a speech at ESC. > > For anyone interested it is described here, with a video excerpt: > http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/31/esc09-open-moko-is-the-anti-iphone-runs-google-android-but-still-no-3g/ >

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying >>> that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put >>> in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). >> You've just convinced me that, unless this chang

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

>> He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying >> that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put >> in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). > You've just convinced me that, unless this changes, no OpenMoko with 3G > will get my money as far as I'm c

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that > gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) > > I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had > regarding that. It's interesting that we have been talking extens

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

I've bought Freerunner because it's open. And I take it pretty seriously. If 3G comes only with license, I don't need it. Freerunner with fixed issues + camera for geotagged photos is an ideal phone for me. Leonti On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02,

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that > gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) Well due to the expense it is clear that no 3G device is going to be Openmoko's main phone for a long time. No one is going to stop anyone

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > >> He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying > >> that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: >> He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying >> that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put >> in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). > > You'v

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > A couple of days ago Sean made a speech at ESC. > > For anyone interested it is described here, with a video excerpt: > http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/31/esc09-open-moko-is-the-anti-iphone-runs-google-android-but-still-no-3g/ > > H

Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

A couple of days ago Sean made a speech at ESC. For anyone interested it is described here, with a video excerpt: http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/31/esc09-open-moko-is-the-anti-iphone-runs-google-android-but-still-no-3g/ He talks about the level of freedom the Freerunner offers people wanting to