On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Dean Collins wrote:
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Subject: Re: Software
Koen Kooi wrote:
>> A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a
>> debug board?
> A debug board would have 2 main uses for me:
> 1) a serial console so you can debug problems with X or initscripts
> 2) access to jtag so you fix the bootloader if something went wrong with u
Michael Welter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a
> debug board?
A debug board lets you do things like running gdb on the remote
kernel, which is invaluable if things are really really screwed up. If
you turn your phone into a brick
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Michael Welter schreef:
> A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a
> debug board?
A debug board would have 2 main uses for me:
1) a serial console so you can debug problems with X or initscripts
2) access to jtag so you f
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 10:51 -0700, Richi Plana wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 13:52 -0300, jeff wrote:
> > Well, I'm not Sean, but here's what I've been able to scrape up. It
> seems you
> > can go a couple routes: qemu or xoo. I do not think that qemu can
> handle the
> > MACHINE="fic-gta01". Bu
A little OT, but under what circumstances would a software developer
require the debug board? Is it for hardware debugging only?
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A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a
debug board?
Koen Kooi wrote:
What do you want to emulate?
If it's the cpu, qemu can do that, but not 100%, so you still need a real
arm920t device
to test on.
If it's the screen, you don't have a 300dpi screen on your de
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Perry E. Metzger schreef:
> Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Please don't stare yourself blind on an 'emulator', since your
>> desktop already emulates 90% of the openmoko tech.
>
> I think that, generally speaking, a lot of people who do this
Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please don't stare yourself blind on an 'emulator', since your
> desktop already emulates 90% of the openmoko tech.
I think that, generally speaking, a lot of people who do this sort of
work prefer working on exact hardware emulators if they can. The
existe
Richi Plana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I guess what I'm trying to ask here is that IF qemu can be made to
> emulate the Neo1973, THEN what must be done to do so
QEMU is pretty easily extended to simulate additional virtual
devices. I think it should be straightforward (though not quick) to
mak
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Richi Plana schreef:
> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 17:36 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>> Seems one of the more common sentiments around here (myself included). I
>>> was wondering if we could get a statement from Sean et al. on where a
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Dean Collins schreef:
> Koen,
> You think you're so right about architecture and software development
> that you are writing code when less than 3 weeks ago an email was sent
> to the entire list stating that there had been some hardware
> changes.
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Dean Collins schreef:
> Yeh right, personally after my experiences with development on the
> Savaje OS last year anyone coding without a 100 authentic emulator is
> wasting their time.
Right, Savaje doesn't reuse desktop technology (java doesn't coun
he PC side, similar to the palm desktop.
Seems one of the more common sentiments around here (myself included). I
was wondering if we could get a statement from Sean et al. on where a
software emulator is in their priority list or even if it is in the
queue of things they're developing i
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get gps signals.
>>
>> Besides the emulator, I'd like to see a nice contacts and calendar app
>> on the PC side, similar to the palm desktop.
>
> Seems one of the more common sentiments around here (myself included). I
> was wondering if we could get a statement f
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