On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:54, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
if you wish to not violate a patent.. you simply have to give
up on implementing the algorithm - or fight his patent in court first.
Very straight and plain...
what would you do in my place?
--
Daniele
Dnia 2010-11-24, śro o godzinie 09:56 +0100, Thibaut Girka pisze:
Le mercredi 24 novembre 2010 à 09:18 +0100, Patryk Benderz a écrit :
Well, I do for example. Looking at the title of patent, it seems that
8pen is French based company. Following google hits I fount French
patent office:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:57, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
i'd invent a new input method that doesn't violate the patent. take the
principal and change it so its different enough not to violate. then implement
that.
They've just released version 1.1 for free (1.0 was 1.50
Joachim Ott wrote:
On 24 November 2010 11:15, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:
Dnia 2010-11-24, śro o godzinie 09:56 +0100, Thibaut Girka pisze:
Le mercredi 24 novembre 2010 à 09:18 +0100, Patryk Benderz a écrit :
Well, I do for example. Looking at the title of
Hello Carsten, thanks for your reply.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:02, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
themselves. they are forgeable. if you have an overwhelming set of such data
from multiple sources and witness statements with signatures on actual paper,
then you have something
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:14, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
you need documents from him - papers he's submitted, lectures given, anything
else that proves he had the idea AND when it actually happened (before the
filing of the patent). the patent filing proves that 8pen's
Dnia 2010-11-23, wto o godzinie 09:13 +0100, Daniele Ricci pisze:
Hello Carsten, thanks for your reply.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:02, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
themselves. they are forgeable. if you have an overwhelming set of such data
from multiple sources and witness
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:52, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
it's his idea. it's his job to defend it. he is the one who can. unless.. he's
involved in 8pen as a founder/investor... then you're pushing poo uphill :)
Contacting him by phone is not something I can do, i don't
On Tuesday 23 November 2010, Daniele Ricci wrote:
Hello Carsten, thanks for your reply.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:02, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
wrote:
themselves. they are forgeable. if you have an overwhelming set of such
data from multiple sources and witness statements
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:01, Bryan Petty etie...@gmail.com wrote:
This is not true. A patent (6031525) was already filed for
Quickwriting in 1999/2000:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6031525.html
So if this is actually a duplicate patent, all Ken Perlin has to do is
point out his patent
--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Daniele Ricci daniele.ath...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:01, Bryan
Petty etie...@gmail.com
wrote:
A patent (6031525) was already filed
for
Quickwriting in 1999/2000:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6031525.html
The
patent office
will realize
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 23:53, Bryan Petty etie...@gmail.com wrote:
If your concern if that you have licensed Ken Perlin's patent, you're
safe from any lawsuits from 8pen.
Actually my concern is about the implementation of the input method.
I've already pushed to my git repository a working
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:41, Dave Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote:
Yeah , ABSOLUTELY!! What can we do to stop this patent? 8pen
is EXACTLY the same as quikwriting. what can we do? are you
involved in the quikwriting project? did you contact them?
DaveMDS
I contacted the 8pen
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:24 +0100, Daniele Ricci wrote:
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:41, Dave Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote:
Yeah , ABSOLUTELY!! What can we do to stop this patent? 8pen
is EXACTLY the same as quikwriting. what can we do? are you
involved in the quikwriting project?
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 15:48, Joachim Ott jo.shrde...@googlemail.com wrote:
I also did some research at the european patant office, I used the
Application number 1058945 from http://www.the8pen.com/legal.html and
searched with http://ep.espacenet.com/numberSearch?locale=en_EP -
there are some
Cross-posting for broadcasting Justus idea.
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 00:00, Justus Winter
4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote:
I am also tempted to mail the person(s?) behind 8pen addressing my
concerns about his attempt to patent the idea, maybe even challenge his
position stating that I
I think the concept behind quickwriting is unrelated to the numbers of
zones but the way you use them to write.
http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/experiments/quikwriting/
The basic conceit of Quikwriting is that you make a character by
moving your pen first out of, and then back into, a central resting
On Tuesday 16 November 2010, Daniele Ricci wrote:
Cross-posting for broadcasting Justus idea.
[snip...]
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 00:00, Justus Winter
Would anybody care to join me on this one? We could create a message
or a message template and ask everyone send this message to the person
btw, in this page I read also:
Then several things happened. Microsoft got interested in it and
licensed it from NYU (thereby helping to support our research!)
so, I think it's not free :P
Not necessarily. There can be dual licensing, like in MySQP, which
would allow for a not-for-profit or
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:00, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:
From: Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:07:51 +0100
Subject: Re: Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
I think
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
Not necessarily. There can be dual licensing, like in MySQP, which
would allow for a not-for-profit or open source licensing.
you are right, but they are not saying it's for free neither.
I tried to contact that email
8open didn't seem to be that great of improvement over the standard
keypad 2=abc 3=def ... maybe just rearrange the letters on each key so
that the more common ones come first
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Daniele Ricci daniele.ath...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
Some weeks ago a new software
Dnia 2010-11-09, wto o godzinie 08:37 -0700, Jeff Sadowski pisze:
8open didn't seem to be that great of improvement over the standard
keypad 2=abc 3=def ... maybe just rearrange the letters on each key so
that the more common ones come first
anyway, common is relative to used language. If what
Greetings,
Some weeks ago a new software for Android has come out, the 8pen:
http://www.the8pen.com/
the video clearly introduces a modified/simplified version of
Quickwriting, an open (ie unpatented) input method invented a few
years ago.
Now they are trying to put a patent on it, even on
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