Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-14 Thread t3st3r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance: Proposed wiki page: How to respond to list email: 1. Never remove any "re: " in the message subject. Some (not all) email clients use this to identify the thread. 2. If your email client adds the original poster and other addressees to the

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread hank williams
Reid, Your test doesnt work when you are looking at messages that you yourself sent. Messages you send from a given thread are always in the same thread, but messages from someone else from the same thread with a different subject are not put in the same thread, and that is the problem on the lis

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Reid Thompson
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 12:00 -0500, hank williams wrote: > On 2/13/07, Reid Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 10:02 -0500, hank williams wrote: > > > hmm... guess those Google guys aren't smart enough to handle mail "the > > > better way". With your way, even if you chang

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread michael
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Richard Bennett wrote: On Tuesday 13 February 2007 15:28, hank williams wrote: Again, out of 15 lists, this only happens for me on the openmoko list. Now I have read that some consider this a feature. And perhaps there are benefits I don't understand. but with 25-50% of

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread hank williams
On 2/13/07, Reid Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 10:02 -0500, hank williams wrote: > hmm... guess those Google guys aren't smart enough to handle mail "the > better way". With your way, even if you change the subject it would be > part of the same thread. I believe that

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Reid Thompson
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 10:02 -0500, hank williams wrote: > hmm... guess those Google guys aren't smart enough to handle mail "the > better way". With your way, even if you change the subject it would be > part of the same thread. I believe that is proper --> to remain part of the same thread. To c

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread hank williams
Thanks Richard. I have read this before, but forgot the official name of reply-to munging. I think your analysis is correct. The only thing I would say is that the "non-standards compliant" way of handling list administration is in fact, as far as I can tell, the standard way that at least the m

Re: This explains the CC'ing but what's about the missing references? Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread hank williams
On 2/13/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Salve hank! This explains the CC'ing. On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, hank williams wrote: > I just read the other email which started this discussion about gmail > and think I understand the problem. > > The problem is with the list. > > I am on 15 te

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread hank williams
On 2/13/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Salve hank! Thank you for your feedback ;) On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, hank williams wrote: > You are misinformed if you believe that gmail does not handle threads > properly. Maybe, it would be nice when other gmail users explain gmail users how t

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Richard Bennett
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 15:28, hank williams wrote: > Again, out of 15 lists, this only happens for me on the openmoko list. > Now I have read that some consider this a feature. And perhaps there > are benefits I don't understand. but with 25-50% of the tech mailing > list readers using gmail,

This explains the CC'ing but what's about the missing references? Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve hank! This explains the CC'ing. On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, hank williams wrote: > I just read the other email which started this discussion about gmail > and think I understand the problem. > > The problem is with the list. > > I am on 15 tech mailing lists, and this is the only one which, if

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve hank! Thank you for your feedback ;) On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, hank williams wrote: > You are misinformed if you believe that gmail does not handle threads > properly. Maybe, it would be nice when other gmail users explain gmail users how to use gmail proper, instead of that I have to inform

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread hank williams
I just read the other email which started this discussion about gmail and think I understand the problem. The problem is with the list. I am on 15 tech mailing lists, and this is the only one which, if I in gmail say "reply to" replys to the sender and not to the list. I NEVER*** want to re

Re: Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread hank williams
Robert, You are misinformed if you believe that gmail does not handle threads properly. In fact I think it is the best product on the market, free or otherwise, for handling threads. The problem which you are referring to has nothing to do with gmail, but with the fact that some people mistakenl

Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Excuse me, I myself was writing once here on this list about respect and to give everybody a warm welcome. The best solution for mailinglist formal things would be personal mails with explaination... Robert Michel schrieb am Dienstag, den 13. Februar 2007 um 13:57h: > The gmailers here on