Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-18 Thread Al Johnson
> GTA02.3: Nokia Communicator form-factor (double screen, double > keyboard, clam-shell with a much more useable QWERTY keyboard). > > GTA02.999 (pure fantasy-land): Asus EEE form-factor. An ultra-portable I still want to see an updated Psion 5 but the keyboard quality would be critical, and Psio

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Subject: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed > successor, GTA03? >Date: ven 18 apr 08 08:25:57 +0200 > > Quoting Flemming Richter Mikkelsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Two

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-18 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03? Date: ven 18 apr 08 08:25:57 +0200 Quoting Flemming Richter Mikkelsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Two things: > 1) It is not just to print the circuit board even if you had the shematics. > When

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-18 Thread Andy Powell
On Friday 18 April 2008 01:01, Michele Renda wrote: > Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: > > Ah, ok... :D > > Btw I think that it's better for you looking for a mini-keyboard with > > standard USB connector (eBay can be your friend!), and then using a > > MiniUSB -> USB adaptor for this and all other

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/18/08, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Subject: RE: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed > successor, GTA03? >Date: gio 17 apr 08 04:20:35 -0700 > > Quoting steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > I warmly suggest that F

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: RE: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03? Date: gio 17 apr 08 04:20:35 -0700 Quoting steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I warmly suggest that FIC produce a GTA02.2 - same hardware, but with > > a QWERTY keyboard... Form-factor simi

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread Michele Renda
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Ah, ok... :D Btw I think that it's better for you looking for a mini-keyboard with standard USB connector (eBay can be your friend!), and then using a MiniUSB -> USB adaptor for this and all other devices you could connect to the freerunner! :) Mmm... I haven'

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michele Renda ha scritto: I hope to find one not too much expensive. To buy the Freerunner, I have already vincolated the Cristmas presents for next 5 years :) Ah, ok... :D Btw I think that it's better for you looking for a mini-keyboard with standard USB connector (eBay can be your friend!),

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread Michele Renda
I hope to find one not too much expensive. To buy the Freerunner, I have already vincolated the Cristmas presents for next 5 years :) Thank you for the info Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Michele Renda wrote: Ps. Someone know if exist a standalone QWERTY keyboard with mini usb connector that

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michele Renda wrote: Ps. Someone know if exist a standalone QWERTY keyboard with mini usb connector that can be used with freerunner? My girlfriend will be very very happy :) I don't know about mini-usb one, but I know about a mini-bluetooth keyboard [1], that really sounds better to my ears

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread Michele Renda
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlo E. Prelz Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:20 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03? Subject: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed

RE: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-17 Thread steve
poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03? Subject: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03? Date: Mon 14 Apr 08 08:55:41PM -0500 Quoting Jae Stutzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I vote for current GTA02 features plus 3G and USB2.0! I war

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Anyways, I guess that for GTA02 you could always get one of those usb-3g | modems and use it. The problem will probably be the usual where to get | linux drivers for something like that. The one I got is

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-11 Thread Ivo Anjo
Personally, I'm one of those who don't have a data plan, and that most of the times are in range of wifi access, but in my opinion the next OM should have at least wifi and HDSPA 3G or something like that. I don't think it's very useful to consider wimax because currently you see that nowhere, and

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-10 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Mark Arvidson wrote: > > I use my phone's > > EDGE capabilities while riding across Texas to the next family event... > > > > As it is, I don't use Wifi much (of course, I don't have i

RE: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-09 Thread Rogen, Mario
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Mills >Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:26 PM >To: List for Openmoko community discussion >Subject: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor,GTA03? > >On Tu

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-09 Thread Hugo Mills
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:28:02PM -0500, Mark Arvidson wrote: > I whip out my A780 and browse the net/read e-mail/update remote todo > lists/ssh into my home network nearly everywhere I go. I use my phone's > EDGE capabilities while riding across Texas to the next family event. I use > it to che

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-09 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Wednesday 09 of April 2008, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen napisał: > Optionally, they could make a GTA03w similar to GTA02 (with wifi), > except with quad band GSM, and make a GTA03g with 3G (and quad band > GSM) and without wifi. If they will get 3G modems then they should put them into all va

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-09 Thread Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof
I'm not sure, but i think that goes mainly for the US. I think 3g networks are widely spread over Europe (don't know about parts of Asia etc.). One of the main disappointments in Europe about the iPhone was that it didn't support 3g at first. In Holland for example most operators have almost 10

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-09 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/9/08, Rafael Campos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello to everyone, > > I think that it's really important to have the lastest technologies in mind > in order to develop a device that is going to be out a year (or more). > Another interesting technology that i think is going to grow in the nex

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-08 Thread Rafael Campos
Hello to everyone, I think that it's really important to have the lastest technologies in mind in order to develop a device that is going to be out a year (or more). Another interesting technology that i think is going to grow in the nexts months is WiMAX. For me 3G is necessary for the next devic

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Arvidson
I whip out my A780 and browse the net/read e-mail/update remote todo lists/ssh into my home network nearly everywhere I go. I use my phone's EDGE capabilities while riding across Texas to the next family event. I use it to check my personal e-mail during downtimes at work (restrictions against do

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-08 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/8/08, Antoine Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Brad Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Guys > > > > It shouldn't be treated like an either-or for wifi and 3g. The phone > > should have both. [...] > > > > Everyone. > > I have to agree with Brad here.

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-08 Thread Antoine Reid
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Brad Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys > > It shouldn't be treated like an either-or for wifi and 3g. The phone > should have both. [...] Everyone. I have to agree with Brad here. Wifi has other uses too! I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants/needs

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-08 Thread Justyn Butler
In the time since Openmoko originally announced it's phone without 3G support and now, as the Freerunner is approaching release, it has become more of an issue that it does not have 3G (how much of an issue we can debate, certainly). So please, *please* bear in mind that when talking about the nex

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Michele Renda
In Italy there is an operator that give GPRS / UMTS / HSDPA with the same tariff: 500 Megabyte/Month -> 20 Eur (after the first renew it become 1 Gbyte, and you can renew it more time in a month) It is not too expensive, for who do't have a broadband connection, because here a bb connection co

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Brad Midgley
Guys It shouldn't be treated like an either-or for wifi and 3g. The phone should have both. Most other smart phones are doing this. It's amazing Apple is able to pull off a phone limited to edge cell speeds successfully. They are unique and probably planned all along to have their loyal crowd upgr

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Lally Singh
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a US resident, 3G is pretty useless to me. Mostly because it costs > AT LEAST an additional $30 a month to utilize it. I'm also not sure > it's available in my area. > > WiFi, on the other hand, is free when it's availa

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Ben
depends which country you're in as to which form is best. for highest coverage in Australia you'd need Telstra's proprietary NextG format, for the cheaper (10x cheaper) carriers you'd need whatever they are using. i think rather than making any particular network inbuilt in the phone, an add-in mo

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread flexd
I think the only option would be having _both_, i can't live without WiFI as i would use my phone alot at work and there's a building wide wireless network setup, though having 3G would be nice when not at a place with a wifi service, i'd not want to buy a phone without wifi these days. The n

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a US resident, 3G is pretty useless to me. Mostly because it costs > AT LEAST an additional $30 a month to utilize it. I'm also not sure > it's available in my area. I'm also a US resident and the unlimited plan on my c

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Mikko Rauhala
On ma, 2008-04-07 at 14:00 +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote: > First off, this is by no means official in any way. Vote on [1] if you > _think_ 3G is essential for a successor to FreeRunner Interesting choice of words; this discourages everyone who doesn't think 3G is essential from voting, even thou

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Federico Lorenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First off, this is by no means official in any way. Vote on [1] if you > _think_ 3G is essential for a successor to FreeRunner I'll miss Edge when I swap my blackberry for the FreeRunner. Wifi will hopefully mean I won

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Andy Powell
On Monday 07 April 2008 17:07, Federico Lorenzi wrote: > I think you should reply and apologize for the double post too :p > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 07 April 2008 16:46, Andy Powell wrote: > > > On Monday 07 April 2008 16:27, Brad Midg

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Steven **
As a US resident, 3G is pretty useless to me. Mostly because it costs AT LEAST an additional $30 a month to utilize it. I'm also not sure it's available in my area. WiFi, on the other hand, is free when it's available (which is admittedly scarce in some areas). -Steven On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Federico Lorenzi
I think you should reply and apologize for the double post too :p On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 07 April 2008 16:46, Andy Powell wrote: > > On Monday 07 April 2008 16:27, Brad Midgley wrote: > > > Andy > > > > > > > 1. Yes. > > > > 2. No

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Andy Powell
On Monday 07 April 2008 16:46, Andy Powell wrote: > On Monday 07 April 2008 16:27, Brad Midgley wrote: > > Andy > > > > > 1. Yes. > > > 2. No and I kill kittens. > > > > yes, that's the kind of influence we need. Do you know about push > > polling? You would need to load the question too. > > > >

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Andy Powell
On Monday 07 April 2008 16:27, Brad Midgley wrote: > Andy > > > 1. Yes. > > 2. No and I kill kittens. > > yes, that's the kind of influence we need. Do you know about push > polling? You would need to load the question too. > > The radiobuttons on the right didn't work but those in the middle > c

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Brad Midgley
Andy > 1. Yes. > 2. No and I kill kittens. yes, that's the kind of influence we need. Do you know about push polling? You would need to load the question too. The radiobuttons on the right didn't work but those in the middle column did. My vote seems to have counted, and no, I'm not from Flori

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Kevin Dean
I'd happily trade wifi for 3G. Well, that is... Until Openmoko begins offering a wifi service for under $20 a month that allows me to do streaming internet radio in my car. :) Wifi is worthless with 110 mile daily commute. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Andy Powell
On Monday 07 April 2008 15:56, Brad Midgley wrote: > Hey > > Are you trying to influence the poll? "No, 3g is essential" won't > register... a popup tells me to select a valid choice :) hehe, if I was trying to do that you'd have : Is 3g important... 1. Yes. 2. No and I kill kittens. It looks t

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Monday 07 of April 2008, thomasg napisał: > If you ask me: drop wifi, add hsdpa. But nobody asks me. :( HSDPA has sense IF you can have unlimited transfer. Here all operators sell few GB pack after which all you get is 16-32kbps. So I would prefer WiFi probably. But my next phone will rath

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Brad Midgley
Hey Are you trying to influence the poll? "No, 3g is essential" won't register... a popup tells me to select a valid choice :) -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communit

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread thomasg
If you ask me: drop wifi, add hsdpa. But nobody asks me. :( Wimax won't be of any relevance for mobile devices in the future, so no need to deal with it. I think it's too early to talk about LTE yet, let's stay with what we have: HSDPA. Phase 4 is coming, means up to 10 mbit/s gross (maybe 8 mbit/s

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Tom Cooksey
On Monday 07 April 2008 14:00:42 Federico Lorenzi wrote: > First off, this is by no means official in any way. Vote on [1] if you > _think_ 3G is essential for a successor to FreeRunner Depends on what you mean by 3G? If you mean 3G as in HSPA then yes, it's a useful feature to have when out of ra

Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Federico Lorenzi
First off, this is by no means official in any way. Vote on [1] if you _think_ 3G is essential for a successor to FreeRunner [1] http://blog.automated.it/2008/04/07/is-3g-an-important-feature/ Cheers, Federico ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun