On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jens Fursund wrote:
>
>
> >
> > > Mikko Rauhala wrote:
> > >
> > > Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video
> on
> > > the Freerunner is to get driver support for that Glamo mpeg-4 decoding
>
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:12:32 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
> On Monday 28 April 2008 17:40:38 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:26:43 -0500 "Tim Shannon"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > babbled:
> > > But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
> > >
On Monday 28 April 2008 17:40:38 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:26:43 -0500 "Tim Shannon"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> babbled:
> > But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
> > card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
> >
> > Basically what I'm curious about
On Monday 28 April 2008 17:31:10 Mikko Rauhala wrote:
> On ma, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote:
> > But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro
> > SD card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
>
> Yes it is. It's just that sending mpeg4 packets to the glamo takes j
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:26:43 -0500 "Tim Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
> card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
>
> Basically what I'm curious about is if in the future someone does take the
> time to figure out and writ
So generally, when all the drivers, and software are in place, the
freerunner is still going to be limited by how much of anything that needs
to be streamed off the SD card at one shot.
Maybe this was already posted, but what is the bandwidth limit? How many
MB/s, etc.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10
On ma, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote:
> But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro
> SD card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Yes it is. It's just that sending mpeg4 packets to the glamo takes just
a _tiny_ bit less bandwidth than sending entire uncompressed
But isn't it still limited by the bandwidth available from the micro SD
card? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Basically what I'm curious about is if in the future someone does take the
time to figure out and write the appropriate driver for the glamo chip, will
we be able to watch movies on the free
Jens Fursund wrote:
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video on
the Freerunner is to get driver support for that Glamo mpeg-4 decoding
(remember, the hardware is capable). Hopefully everyone's grasping at
straws makes OM bump up the priority
On ma, 2008-04-28 at 16:13 +0200, Jens Fursund wrote:
> Is mpeg-4 decoding in the Glamo chip only video? Or could we use it to
> decode audio as well to decrease CPU-time, thereby having more
> batterytime for playing mpeg4 audio?
Video only.
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Am Montag, den 28.04.2008, 15:12 +0300 schrieb Mikko Rauhala:
> Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video on
> the Freerunner is to get driver support for that Glamo mpeg-4 decoding
> (remember, the hardware is capable). Hopefully everyone's grasping at
> straws makes O
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ramsesoriginal wrote:
> As a datapoint, most VCD class mpegs/avis I had around played just fine.
> (150kilobytes/second, 320*240 or so).
> Yes, they framedropped a bit, and ended up around 15-18fps.
>
> Without audio, it
On ma, 2008-04-28 at 13:59 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What if you could use one of those 'coming very soon' Laser projection
> device(s) connected to USB ?
You'd be looking at 12 Mbit/s max for the USB1.1, not fun.
Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video on
t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if you could use one of those 'coming very soon' Laser projection
device(s) connected to USB ?
USB1.1 only (on the Freerunner)
And they are not cheap. (presumably)
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What if you could use one of those 'coming very soon' Laser projection
device(s) connected to USB ?
On Monday 28 April 2008 08:17:18 Flyin_bbb8 wrote:
> just thinking out loud here, for example maybe you have some short videos
> you want to show to some other people, so u can open an app that
ramsesoriginal wrote:
I think this would be great..
Ideally it would not decode it completely, but simply encode the video
with some simpler compression...
Another question: if we skip sound, would the decoding be faster? By how much?
As a datapoint, most VCD class mpegs/avis I had around pla
I think this would be great..
Ideally it would not decode it completely, but simply encode the video
with some simpler compression...
Another question: if we skip sound, would the decoding be faster? By how much?
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> just thinki
On Monday 28 April 2008 10:32:22 Bin Chen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Tom Cooksey
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 24 April 2008 13:20:12 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >
> > > again - we could do better if we limited ourselves to just mpeg4 (which
> > is what
> > > almost a
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Tom Cooksey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 24 April 2008 13:20:12 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>
> > again - we could do better if we limited ourselves to just mpeg4 (which is
> what
> > almost all phones do - they do only 1 codec or maybe 2), but the proble
On Thursday 24 April 2008 13:20:12 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> again - we could do better if we limited ourselves to just mpeg4 (which is
> what
> almost all phones do - they do only 1 codec or maybe 2), but the problem here
> is that xv does not provide a way to do this sanely (stream just mpeg4 d
just thinking out loud here, for example maybe you have some short videos
you want to show to some other people, so u can open an app that checks the
amount of memory you have, then checks the amount it needs to do
decoding. if it has enough it does the decoding (not at full speed) 'n
lets u kn
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:09:51 +0200 ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> I'm not an expert, so maybe this question is silly, but it just popped
> to my mind: using mencod, couldn't you decode the video, store it in
> decoded form and then you have onyl to copy it? If this would be
> possi
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:42 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:48:53 + "Federico Lorenzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
>
>
> > Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
> > on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:48:53 + "Federico Lorenzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
> on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128 H264 (with CABAC) encoded video
> at 40kbps with a 12kbps audio track. The fun comes in with the
> scali
Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128 H264 (with CABAC) encoded video
at 40kbps with a 12kbps audio track. The fun comes in with the
scaling. Scaling to 320x240 with no frame dropping is possible if I
encode the video as baseline
Well, after doing a few tests, (mainly thanks to ahven and SpeedEvil
on IRC), the Neo can handle a 160x128 H264 (with CABAC) encoded video
at 40kbps with a 12kbps audio track. The fun comes in with the
scaling. Scaling to 320x240 with no frame dropping is possible if I
encode the video as baseline
Hi Christoph
Am Donnerstag, den 24.04.2008, 11:19 +0200 schrieb Christoph Witzany:
> As I understood Video playback will be virtually impossible on the
> freerunner, at least from the sd card (which is the only sensible
> location to store videos on the neo ftm).
I did some testing on that with
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:26:02 +0200 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > what freerunner *IS* good at is nice high resolution still images. it is NOT
> > good at motion (animation). that's possibly the simplest way i know to
> > desc
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
what freerunner *IS* good at is nice high resolution still images. it is NOT
good at motion (animation). that's possibly the simplest way i know to describe
its graphics :) great for ebook and text reading. great for your high-res
photos. don't expect a med
Thank you for this answer. I think that this is the only (or one of a
few) firm in the world that treat this customers as *partner* no only as
*consumers*.
I know is not easy for a firm to speak about *defects* of a product that
their are starting to produce, but in my opinion is better so, so
I think the highest priority in general should be getting the proper drivers
written for the GPU on the Freerunner, it seems like such a waste to have
it, and not be able to use it.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> to, 2008-04-24 kello 19:20 +0800, Carst
to, 2008-04-24 kello 19:20 +0800, Carsten Haitzler kirjoitti:
> the graphics chip (glamo) can decode mpeg4
> itself, but we dont have the time or resources to do this properly ourselves.
> you are free to do it yourself as we provide all the code, but you would need
> to
> reverse-engineer the gra
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:00:33 +0200 (CEST) David Samblas Martinez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> I know and I'm sorry if I was missunderstood I'm not
> complaining about I will be unable to play video, I
> complaining about Have a 640x480 resolution screen and
> not able to play at 640x480 resoluti
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:06:32 +0200 Christoph Witzany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
> >
> > 320x240 video would be sane possibly if the source is
> > internal flash instead of SD or maybe 802.11.
> >
> >
> Well ... that is not so bad ... even if the fa
I know and I'm sorry if I was missunderstood I'm not
complaining about I will be unable to play video, I
complaining about Have a 640x480 resolution screen and
not able to play at 640x480 resolution.
Well more than complaining about this is that I
believe that with that cpu and graphical power I w
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
320x240 video would be sane possibly if the source is
internal flash instead of SD or maybe 802.11.
Well ... that is not so bad ... even if the fact that sd card cannot be
the source for is a bit sad ...
Well that could have the potential to kill th
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:44:50 +0200 (CEST) David Samblas Martinez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> I'm gonna still buy the freerunner when as soon as it
> become avialble and I will work as hard as my
> non-linux-freak life let me do it.
>
> But I have to admit than this video limitation in the
> n
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:19:37 +0200 Christoph Witzany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> As I understood Video playback will be virtually impossible on the
> freerunner, at least from the sd card (which is the only sensible
> location to store videos on the neo ftm).
>
> Please correct me if I misun
As written by raster, you can play video at lower resolution. Also
implementing support for mpeg4 should help a great deal.
David Samblas Martinez pravi:
I'm gonna still buy the freerunner when as soon as it
become avialble and I will work as hard as my
non-linux-freak life let me do it.
But
I'm gonna still buy the freerunner when as soon as it
become avialble and I will work as hard as my
non-linux-freak life let me do it.
But I have to admit than this video limitation in the
neo's video has dissapoint me very deeply.
The good news is that I have been disapointed BEFORE I
have bou
As I understood Video playback will be virtually impossible on the
freerunner, at least from the sd card (which is the only sensible
location to store videos on the neo ftm).
Please correct me if I misunderstood.
Well that could have the potential to kill the Freerunner as consumer
product. J
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