Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-22 Thread Michele Renda
Hi Dirk, If the Freerunner is only about earning money, I think I will buy another phone, not FR that is neither Umts. Openmoko is not doing charity, but he want to follow some principles. In these principles there is also the choose to show us a part of internal process. If he was

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-22 Thread Michele Renda
What to say, I hope it will be a success, because I'd like to buy a GTAn with n-inf. :) Dirk Deimeke wrote: Hi Michele, yes, it is not only about money. But it is not only about free software. I am still waiting for the phone because I really like the philosophy attached to the phone. But

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, Sorry, but couldn't resist. Top 5 things you _shouldn't_ do when waiting for the FreeRunner: 5. Troll at #openmoko on irc.freenode.net. 4. Keep writing FreeRunner - Thank You e-mails to FIC, Openmoko developers, and the community. 3. Ask GTK+ developers about Qt, and vice-versa. 2. Call

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Michele Renda
I don't think they hate so much the point 4 ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread nickd
And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Michele Renda wrote: I don't think they hate so much the point 4 ... ___

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Dirk Deimeke
Hi, And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. if you make an announcement for a particular date, you have to live with people asking, when the date passed by. If you

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Michele Renda
They love listening you writing so... The #4 was to receive email writing thank you! nickd wrote: And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Michele Renda wrote: I don't

RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Crane, Matthew
community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hi, And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. if you make an announcement for a particular

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Roland Häder
For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Michele Renda
Roland Häder wrote: For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :)

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Dirk Deimeke
Hi, I think I saw some proballys and some shoulds but I don't remember any announcements. maybe, but a concrete date was given. Was there an official announcment? Everything, a member of the company writes, is official ... Sorry, but we are all waiting for several months now. Several

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Michele Renda
Dirk Deimeke wrote: maybe, but a concrete date was given. I don't want to start a flame, so I will try to troll less as possible. They give different dates, but they always told us that are only indicative. If they will found a stopping problem in what they produce,they will stop

RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread steve
: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Roland Häder wrote: For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Roland Häder
Hi Michele, On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Michele Renda wrote: When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) Probably he will not ask it. ;) In my view OpenMoko should take time in testing it. And as you can see on

RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread steve
Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hi Michele, On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Michele Renda wrote: When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) Probably he will not ask it. ;) In my view

RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread steve
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pfeiffer Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:08 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Michele Renda writes: Roland Häder wrote: For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Travis Tabbal
So mass production has not yet started? Still getting signoffs? Just checking to make sure I'm understanding your properly. :) On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:55 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks roland. The hardware is solid. it's moving through mass production. the final signoffs are in

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 13:32 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Sorry, but couldn't resist. Top 5 things you _shouldn't_ do when waiting for the FreeRunner: [...] 1. Reply to this e-mail. OH SHI- Sorry, but couldn't resist. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Dirk Deimeke
Hi Michele, I agree with what you wrote. But in the end it is about earning money. It is not good to lose potential customers with announcements of probabilities. So again, what hinders production? Openmoko but to learn to be open. It will take time, but is doing a lot. This is main point I

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-21 Thread Mischa Beitz
Steve, Not to be a pest or anything, but . . . any chance I can go to Suzhou to get one of these when they're ready? Any response appreciated. Mischa -- Mischa Beitz http://mischa.beitz.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-20 Thread Daniel Spies
community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test

Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Steffen Winkler
Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Michele Renda
shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) Steffen Winkler wrote: Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo Michele, * Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-05-08 11:01]: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) Uhh... please not more features, a working phone is big enough at first! Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Michele Renda
I don't think they are implementing other features... it is a bit too late. I think they are testing what they already have. :) Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo Michele, * Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-05-08 11:01]: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Denis Shulyaka
2008/5/19, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It is OK if they need more time, we have already been waiting for a couple of years, so we can wait for a couple of weeks more. We just want to hear the

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread digger vermont
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. Kinda like an ultrasound :) digger

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM, digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. Kinda

RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread steve
to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen

RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread steve
] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield

RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread steve
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:55 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? yes. I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to Disty in EU and our HUB in the US. We still need to figure whether to air freight

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Mischa Beitz
there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread George Brooke
On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:12:12 -0700 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hate logistics yet? I'm sure that some people enjoy organising stuff like that, I'm certainly not one of them! Good to know that the phone is beginning to materialise though, solar.george

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

2008-05-19 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
digger vermont wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. This [1] is not live neither it's building a Freerunner, but