Re: Whither open hardware ?

2010-01-08 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dave Ball wrote: What's the yard stick for measuring against here? I.e. are we talking about one-off from digikey/farnell, samples direct from the manufacturer, or limited-run (couple of hundreds) quantities? For the full process from RD to mass production, you need to have channels for

Re: Whither open hardware ?

2010-01-06 Thread Dave Ball
Hi Werner, Werner Almesberger wrote: There are many component choices for future phones. Things to consider when choosing chips include: snip - are they available (to us) ? What's the yard stick for measuring against here? I.e. are we talking about one-off from digikey/farnell, samples

Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)

2010-01-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Ken Young wrote: My two cents: If I were dictator of the gta02-core team (instead of someone who doesn't even contribute), I would repurpose the device as a GPS PDA. I would remove all the radio components except for the WiFi, and try to optimize for the longest battery life possible.

Re: Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)

2010-01-03 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote: The 2442 is now about five years old, and it shows all over the place. In an updated but similar design, unlike gta02-core suitable for mass-production, I would use something like the 2450, which has high-speed USB,

Re: Whither open hardware ?

2010-01-03 Thread Dave Ball
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: There is also the openpandora project: http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout=blogid=2Itemid=2lang=en Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency? Can be the ARM Cortex-A8 600Mhz used in a future phone? The pandora

Re: Whither open hardware ?

2010-01-03 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 20:49 +, Dave Ball wrote: Laszlo KREKACS wrote: There is also the openpandora project: http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout=blogid=2Itemid=2lang=en Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency? Can be the ARM

Re: Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)

2010-01-03 Thread Joerg Eesmann
Hi, I would love to have an open phone with OMAP processor like OpenPandora and BeagleBoard. Both have the OMAP 3530 with 3D acceleration and DSP. Maybe a phone doesn't need the DSP. But it is amazingly powersufficient, IMO. The phone would be up to date from processor power, and there should not

Re: Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)

2010-01-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency? Can be the ARM Cortex-A8 600Mhz used in a future phone? There are many component choices for future phones. Things to consider when choosing chips include: - do they fit the intended purpose ? - are they open