arnign curve so that is why I am asking
the question here.
while not fully up to speed on how it all works, here is my quick take
on it:
as long as its a voip connection, and said voip service allows two ip's
to share a account and call, there should be little to no problem having
Dear community,
I am not sure if this is a widely known thing or not, but I just found out
about it and had some questions about this working on the neo. T-mobile has
hotspots all around my area, but have been experimenting with a new service
called T-mobile HotSpot @Home. It uses a UMA (unlice
I was looking on the wiki just to see if any decision has been made on
the Wifi chipsets to go into the next version of the openmoko.
Although I suggested the SyChip devices (admittedly only to have the
chance to win a Neo), I should say a couple of things.
I do a lot of arm development, and
Dear OpenMoko developers,
I'm new to this list, but have been watching OpenMoko developments with great
interest. I think the OpenMoko platform (and hardware) is the best thing to
ever hit the phone market.
I noticed your call for people to suggest Wifi chipsets that may be suitable
fo
Hello,
Just to throw more info into the fire:
"NXP readies ultra small 802.11b/g package"
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=198100726
"NXP Semiconductors is about to start sampling a single-package 81-pin
TFBGA Wi-Fi chip that it says is the smallest device yet for
So, which device is expected to have WiFi inside? Because to me, wifi is a
big selling point, but the whole Neo1973 itself seems highly desirable and I
just don't know if I could wait for a second-generation device ;)
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> Subject: Thanks for all the WiFI help
>
> Dear Community,
>
> A _huge_ thanks for all the feedback on this WiFi stuff! We've got some
> new leads now and will keep you all posted when we find one that meets
> our "freedom requirements." ;-)
>
> -Sean
On 3/14/07, Harald Welte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We absolutely need chipset (or even SMT module using the chipset)
specifically designed for the power and size constraints of mobile
phones or other equipment such as portable media players.
Can you give some numbers for the power consumption
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:34:48 Harald Welte wrote:
> I've added this (and some more info) to
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi_support_in_OpenMoko
I've added a link to
http://www.zcomax.com/1mbfile/G%20product/XG-880M_specification%20.pdf to the
wiki. prplague on #openmoko is working on
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:51:00AM +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> 1) We can't find a WiFi Chipset with GPL'ed drivers -- We know
> this has been discussed (to death) on this list, but as we're
> beginning work on the next summer hardware refresh we still can
Dear Community,
A _huge_ thanks for all the feedback on this WiFi stuff! We've got some
new leads now and will keep you all posted when we find one that meets
our "freedom requirements." ;-)
-Sean
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Thats great! Curious to know how open Marvell is to this? Do you have
access to their firmware spec and driver porting guide?
Marty
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
> Dnia poniedziałek, 19 lutego 2007, Martin Lefkowitz napisał:
>
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:58:04 +0100
>>> From: Marcin Juszkiewi
Dnia poniedziałek, 19 lutego 2007, Martin Lefkowitz napisał:
> > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:58:04 +0100
> > From: Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Marvel 8385 can be connected to SDIO, CF, SPI and it is one of chips
> > you are talking about.
>
> Yes, and it looks like there is at least a
>
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:58:04 +0100
> From: Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> t the complaints here should be about no SDIO, or CF interfaces,
>> > but again they've bitten off enough.
>>
>
> Marvel 8385 can be connected to SDIO, CF, SPI and it is one of chips you
> are t
as
we get them done, and I've been playing around with one-off case
designs that can be produced on a 3D printer, to accomodate any LCD
size and feature set - which has become known as the "my phone"
project :-)
There is a WiFi and Bluetooth combo card available here that
Ian Stirling writes:
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>> Does a GSM/wifi/bluetooth/GPS phone really need
>> 4 different RF chips and associated antennas and cabling?
> There are a large number of reasons why not - firstly, 1GHz A/D
> converter chips are both large, power-
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> One other hope I have is that the RF chip designers will start making
> more flexible radios. Does a GSM/wifi/bluetooth/GPS phone really need
> 4 different RF chips and associated antennas and cabling? Using
> s
Broadcom and
Marvell use an embedded ARM chip also. An interesting blog entry by
Jim Gettys (at http://www.gettysfamily.org/wordpress/?p=27 ) mentions
how Marvell helped free up the Marvel wifi driver. He also talks
about how the Marvell chip is crucial to the OLPC low power goals.
(Although the 300mw
You can already get the Telit GM862-GPS GSM Modem w/ GPS, along with
the Bluetooth/WiFi module, thats four networks in two packages, with
open specs and existing project plans for Linux. the fun part is going
to be figuring out how to lay out four antennas in a small package.
The OpenCell
I'm not authorized to speak on behalf of anybody but myself, but
welcome! I've been watching the homebrew mobile phone club (and also
tuxphone) for a while, and they both look likereally interesting
projects. In the period between when I got discouraged about Motorola
and when the OpenMoko projec
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
One other hope I have is that the RF chip designers will start making
more flexible radios. Does a GSM/wifi/bluetooth/GPS phone really need
4 different RF chips and associated antennas and cabling? Using
software-radio techniques it might be possible to combine
They've gotten GSM to the point to where it uses a standard AT command
set (I think it's standard). This means the driver is very simple. The
current Wifi chips have a different approach. They leverage the
resources on the host (i.e. scatter gather) and have the upper layer MAC
functi
One other hope I have is that the RF chip designers will start making
more flexible radios. Does a GSM/wifi/bluetooth/GPS phone really need
4 different RF chips and associated antennas and cabling? Using
software-radio techniques it might be possible to combine some of the
hardware.
GPS
adrian cockcroft wrote:
Hello, I'm new to the OpenMoko lists, but I'm a member of the Silicon
Valley Homebrew Mobile Phone Club that started up last year at
http://www.hbmobile.org . We have been working towards our own family
There is a WiFi and Bluetooth combo card available here
la, 2007-02-17 kello 19:29 -0800, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht kirjoitti:
> > This has been discussed many, many times in the last month. According
> > to Sean, no wifi chips that both are low-power and have open specs.
>
> It sounds like the GPS and GSM chips aren't open spec
around with one-off case
designs that can be produced on a 3D printer, to accomodate any LCD
size and feature set - which has become known as the "my phone"
project :-)
There is a WiFi and Bluetooth combo card available here that some of
us intend to use:
http://www.embeddedworks.net/newsit
> This has been discussed many, many times in the last month. According
> to Sean, no wifi chips that both are low-power and have open specs.
It sounds like the GPS and GSM chips aren't open spec either. That
didn't stop them from being included.
I wonder if openmoko could be
I have added a bit more information to the wiki about the exclusion of
wifi. i have tried to summarise the information that was discussed in
this thread. Please have a read and edit at will
:P
hopefully, with this documented in the wiki, if this discussion comes
up again, we can point the
Am Samstag, 17. Februar 2007 23:57 schrieb t3st3r:
>
> hacking linux to HTC and getting wi-fi to
> work is not impossible ...
>
The screenshots id=88 and id=89 at
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=3
are showing openmoko running on HTC Universal.
WiFi is disabled because (guess(
Okay, stopping it.
If you urgently need wifi in a phone
take a HTC model where the ACX100 chipset has
Linux support (Universal).
Will consider buying it only if they'll use linux by default and if it
will not be crippled in bastardized manner. Bastardized means for
example, when some assholes &
t
in. This is a BIG hardware design mistake IMHO. Linux without network is
something like North Pole without snow. And the only somehow popular
networking in public places is WI-FI.
This has been discussed many, many times in the last month. According
to Sean, no wifi chips that both are low-
to affect project's success?
I think everyone knows that the next version of the phone needs
WiFi. There is a lot of stuff about it in previous mail and in FAQs
etc. I am absolutely certain the folks from FIC understand that there
is enormous market demand for WiFi in the next version. However
David Schlesinger wrote:
>This is a BIG hardware design mistake IMHO.
I think you should go right out and build your _own_ phone. Tell us
all about it when you get done.
Kinda strange reply. I have to admit your reply is completely useless
and even looks like an insult. Next time please ke
Am Samstag, 17. Februar 2007 12:24 schrieb t3st3r:
>
> P.S. As for me, I'm still do not understand, why there is no WI-FI built
> in. This is a BIG hardware design mistake IMHO.
>
It does not make sense to complain here about the (missing)
hardware features. If you urgently nee
ly somehow popular
>networking in public places is WI-FI.
This has been discussed many, many times in the last month. According
to Sean, no wifi chips that both are low-power and have open specs.
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>This is a BIG hardware design mistake IMHO.
I think you should go right out and build your _own_ phone. Tell us all about
it when you get done.
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mer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > So the Wifi will not be integrated in the first Neo 1973, but is
>> > there a
>> > chance for a hardware addon? Has someone some information about that?
>
that comes out IS FOR DEVELOPERS.
You can help write the applications to work with wifi, if you wanted
to. Then, when a production model for CONSUMERS comes out, I can
almost guarantee wifi will be part of the equation, due to mass
acceptance. Also, as I have pointed out, among others, there will
x27;m sure that future ones
will have WiFi. You'll just have to be a bit patient.
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then enjoy by the results :).
You can help write the applications to work with wifi, if you wanted
to.
Without Wi-Fi hardware on board to test on it? Er... but how this
possible? Ok, actually I'm also quite weak programmer with only some
moderate C knowledge :( but I'm a professional
[rest is deleted]
This is not a joke, this is a limitation in the production environment
and time needed to come out with a working product. Please, PLEASE
remember, that the first Neo1973 that comes out IS FOR DEVELOPERS.
You can help write the applications to work with wifi, if you wanted
2007/2/17, t3st3r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Alessandro Iurlano wrote:
>>
> Neo1973 will have a USB interface capable of connecting to a WiFi
> adapter.
>
Sounds like a joke. Can you imagine someone using this solution? Except
very few (most hardcore) geeks on the planet. Let
Alessandro Iurlano wrote:
On 2/16/07, *Esra Kummer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
So the Wifi will not be integrated in the first Neo 1973, but is
there a
chance for a hardware addon? Has someone some information about that?
Cheers
Es
On 2/16/07, Esra Kummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So the Wifi will not be integrated in the first Neo 1973, but is there a
chance for a hardware addon? Has someone some information about that?
Cheers
Esra
Neo1973 will have a USB interface capable of connecting to a WiFi adapter.
B
So the Wifi will not be integrated in the first Neo 1973, but is there a
chance for a hardware addon? Has someone some information about that?
Cheers
Esra
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Shouldn't wifi be possible via the use of a USB "dongle"?
>
> Yes yes, if you get it power from somewhere other than the Neo (such as
> an internal battery, USB power injector, or a (battery) powered hub).
> It's been discussed before. Speeds won't be great (USB
On ma, 2007-02-12 at 01:54 -1000, Joshua Hoblitt wrote:
> Quick thought: Shouldn't wifi be possible via the use of a USB "dongle"?
Yes yes, if you get it power from somewhere other than the Neo (such as
an internal battery, USB power injector, or a (battery) powered hub).
I
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070201-8753.html
"DAVE will be a small, portable hard drive that will use WiFi and Bluetooth to
transfer media and other files between devices" ...
" It will also be an open-source system, allowing third-party developers to
write apps to
Brad Midgley wrote:
> If you do go this route, I'd suggest you get a class 1 bluetooth
> adapter. You won't get 100m range, but in my experience when one side of
> the bluetooth link is a class 1 radio, you'll increase the range by 50
> to 100% over the standard 10m. The bluetake bt007ex is a great
Rod
If you do go this route, I'd suggest you get a class 1 bluetooth adapter.
You won't get 100m range, but in my experience when one side of the
bluetooth link is a class 1 radio, you'll increase the range by 50 to 100%
over the standard 10m. The bluetake bt007ex is a great class 1, bt2.0,
csr-b
On Friday 26 January 2007 09:31:18 Richi Plana wrote:
> True that. I can't think of an application right now for 11n on a phone.
> But then again, someone said 640KB of RAM was sufficient for the
> desktop. :)
Sure, but unlike with DOS, there's nothing stopping the devs from adding N
when we need
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 08:38 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> Not sure just how 802.11n is useful on a *phone*. Just about everything the
> CPU can reasonably be expected to handle runs just fine on 11G
True that. I can't think of an application right now for 11n on a phone.
But then again, someone
On Friday 26 January 2007 06:35:41 Richi Plana wrote:
> I guess it's just as well that the first version didn't contain WiFi as
> the specs for 802.11n seems all but finished
> (http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9415304733.html). Hopefully Intel and
> Atheros come out wit
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 15:11 +, Tom Berger wrote:
> I'm new to the list, so I don't know whether this was already
> discussed, but I'm surprised (and a bit sorry) that the OpenMoKo spec
> doesn't include WiFi
I guess it's just as well that the first version di
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 16:25 +0100, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
> 2007/1/21, Tom Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I'm new to the list, so I don't know whether this was already discussed, but
> > I'm surprised (and a bit sorry) that the OpenMoKo spec doesn&
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, David Schlesinger wrote:
What is the rationale behind the exclusion of WiFi?
The long and short of it is that there?s no sufficiently low-power WiFi chip
available which has an open driver, or at least there wasn?t when the
hardware design got nailed down. It?s too
Heh, I think OpenMoko needs a web forum, otherwise such subjects are
going to be done to death over and over. I recently just sparked a
big discussion on just this subject Tom. I'm of much the same opinion
as you. The absence of WiFi appears to be purely down to technical
issues
>Done:
>http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/QuestionsAndAnswers
Hurray! The power of the open source community!
=D
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On 1/21/07, Tom Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What is the rationale behind the exclusion of WiFi? Will you consider
including it on future revisions? Will it be possible to extend the MoKo
with a WiFi card or something like that?
See: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/Op
On 1/21/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What is the rationale behind the exclusion of WiFi?
The long and short of it is that there's no sufficiently low-power WiFi chip
available which has an open driver, or at least there wasn't when the
hardware design go
It's not included, because no low powered wifi chip with free drivers
could be found when the phone was being designed. If one can be found
for the next revision, I'm sure it will be included (since the lack of
wifi seems to be the no 1 complaint so far)
sön 2007-01-21 klockan 15:11 +
>What is the rationale behind the exclusion of WiFi?
The long and short of it is that there¹s no sufficiently low-power WiFi chip
available which has an open driver, or at least there wasn¹t when the
hardware design got nailed down. It¹s too late in the process to add one
now, but maybe in s
2007/1/21, Tom Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I'm new to the list, so I don't know whether this was already discussed, but
I'm surprised (and a bit sorry) that the OpenMoKo spec doesn't include WiFi
Whoa, you are right! Nobody noticed this thing before you mention
Hya,
I'm new to the list, so I don't know whether this was already discussed, but
I'm surprised (and a bit sorry) that the OpenMoKo spec doesn't include WiFi
- I'm currently using an HTC Universal and would very much like to switch to
the MoKo as soon as it's avail
You might like to read the FAQ Gabriel:
http://www.truphone.com/scn/blog/faq.tru
On 18 Jan 2007, at 12:25 pm, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
Doesn't really say how it works. "An all SIP solution" doesnt
really sound like it could ever be seamless with GSM. I'd really
like to know just how this supp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Rod Whitby wrote:
>> Jean-Philippe Monteiro wrote:
>>> Need to set up a server though, it won't just access my Linksys Box :(
>>
>> It will access your Linksys NSLU2 running SlugOS with a bluetooth USB
>> dongle plugged into it, sitting beside your Li
Treo 650 to get bluetooth network coverage in
my house.
Rod,
Can you write a short HOWTOs on the wiki telling us how to do this, even just
in outline form?
Many question like this will need to be documented shortly:
How do I configure the Neo 1973 to use an external USB keyboard?
... to use a
nough for High-Fidelity earphones, especially considering that
it support Quality-of-Service, which you don't get with pure WiFi stuff.
Andreas
>
> People have mentioned interference between Wifi and Bluetooth: Is this
> an insuperable problem, or can I make one or the other operate on a
T
t was kinda USB-Wireless (wireless
> Keyboards, some games, send of vCard) & not fully Ethernet-like.
Then learn before you start to whine.
BT even in the most basic version will be enough for 90% of the
intended WiFi uses. Should we get some better BT, it can basically do
almost everything
* Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 03:28]:
> On 18 Jan 2007, at 2:14 am, Jean-Philippe Monteiro wrote:
>
> >Why do I want WiFi? ... NOT to make expensive VoIP calls in airports - if I
> >want to spend money in airports, there are plenty of other ways...
w
> >this supposed to work, because if
> >they pulled this off, it would be really huge.
>
> Perhaps if were drop the assumption that it would try to go from IP-based SIP
> call to GSM voice call. What if the phone were simply smart enough to go
> from wifi to GPRS - then
he presentation they gave:
http://www.openser.org/events/2006-OpenSER-Summit/slides/openser-summit-2006_04_james.body_truphone-reversing-the-paradigm.pdf
At the time the presentation did seems a little 'too good to be true' to me
though, given that nobody at VON could manage to get their Nokia e-series
r Neo include WiFi the better in my view.
Renaissance man
On 18 Jan 2007, at 12:25 pm, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Thursday 18 January 2007 09:54, Renaissance Man wrote:
Seamless swapping needs the carriers' help. And they won't do it
for free, rest assured.
Already being done. See http
* Jean-Philippe Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 03:16]:
> Hi Community
>
> A lot of stuff around WiFi these days - A feature that does _not_ seems to be
> even planned as of now! :)
>
> Why do I want WiFi?
>
> NOT to make expensive VoIP calls in airports
voice call. What if the phone were simply
smart enough to go from wifi to GPRS - then it's more a matter of having
the endpoints able to withstand an IP address change mid-call.
Something like that could go BT->wifi->GPRS and back without missing a
beat - assuming that each step of t
On Thursday 18 January 2007 09:54, Renaissance Man wrote:
> > Seamless swapping needs the carriers' help. And they won't do it
> > for free, rest assured.
> Already being done. See http://truphone.com
Doesn't really say how it works. "An all SIP solution" doesnt really sound
like it could ever b
Salve Gabriel!
Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Donnerstag, den 18. Januar 2007 um 08:55h:
> > VoIP over Bluetooth IP to be practical?
> Plenty fast for that. I think Speex can run on as little as 2kbyte/s.
Ohhhmmm I've tested 1kByte/s bewteen two asterisks this is
a quite good quality. Remember that G
On 18 Jan 2007, at 7:56 am, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Thursday 18 January 2007 03:25, Renaissance Man wrote:
your device is intelligent enough it will seamlessly swap between
the two, using WiFi when it's available and GSM when it's not (and
vice versa), just as Truphone does.
On Thursday 18 January 2007 03:25, Renaissance Man wrote:
> your device is intelligent enough it will seamlessly swap between the
> two, using WiFi when it's available and GSM when it's not (and vice
> versa), just as Truphone does.
Seamless swapping needs the carriers' he
On Thursday 18 January 2007 06:12, Alexander McLeay wrote:
> What sort of speed does this give you? Is it actually good enough for
It's assumed Bluetooth 2.0 EDR will allow about 2mbit.
> VoIP over Bluetooth IP to be practical?
Plenty fast for that. I think Speex can run on as little as 2kbyte
uming that's much faster than bluetooth). My
rule of thumb is that a wired connection is always going to be faster
and more reliable than a wireless connection.
> People have mentioned interference between Wifi and Bluetooth: Is this
> an insuperable problem, or can I make one or the o
People have mentioned interference between Wifi and Bluetooth: Is this
an insuperable problem, or can I make one or the other operate on a
different channel/frequency, seeing as I control both network setups?
(My laptop is my only computer with Bluetooth, and it's usually
connected via Wifi.)
(S
Jean-Philippe Monteiro wrote:
>>> Need to set up a server though, it won't just access my Linksys Box :(
>> It will access your Linksys NSLU2 running SlugOS with a bluetooth USB
>> dongle plugged into it, sitting beside your Linksys Router ...
>>
>> I do this today with the Treo 650 to get bluetoot
> > Need to set up a server though, it won't just access my Linksys Box :(
>
> It will access your Linksys NSLU2 running SlugOS with a bluetooth USB
> dongle plugged into it, sitting beside your Linksys Router ...
>
> I do this today with the Treo 650 to get bluetooth network coverage in
> my house
Jean-Philippe Monteiro wrote:
> On Thursday 18 January 2007 09:25, you wrote:
>> Thankfully most of this can be done over Bluetooth. At least with
>> linux computers you'll be able to access it as a network device, and
>> you'll be able to run smb or sshfs albeit at reduced speed. Neos
>> won't b
On Thursday 18 January 2007 09:25, you wrote:
> Thankfully most of this can be done over Bluetooth. At least with
> linux computers you'll be able to access it as a network device, and
> you'll be able to run smb or sshfs albeit at reduced speed. Neos
> won't be islands, even when untethered from
On 18 Jan 2007, at 2:14 am, Jean-Philippe Monteiro wrote:
Why do I want WiFi? ... NOT to make expensive VoIP calls in
airports - if I want to spend money in airports, there are plenty
of other ways...
Yeah you could make expense GSM calls instead. Naturally you're much
better off
Thankfully most of this can be done over Bluetooth. At least with
linux computers you'll be able to access it as a network device, and
you'll be able to run smb or sshfs albeit at reduced speed. Neos
won't be islands, even when untethered from USB. :)
- Chad
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A lot of stuff around WiFi these days - A feature that does _not_ seems to be
even planned as of now! :)
Why do I want WiFi?
NOT to make expensive VoIP calls in airports - if I want to spend money in
airports, there are plenty of other ways...
I want WiFI so that the Phone is a
>Who knows, perhaps the software will bridge wifi->bluetooth as a feature
>and selling point by the time it's released. It makes sense to me, they've
>got everything they need right there. As long as their phone supports the
>PAN bluetooth profile (or may
Salve Ole!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote:
> On 1/16/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot
> >> Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly...
> >
> >gooing abroad - using a cheaper tariff
> >I would prefer a mutipexe
On 1/16/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - changing SIM / microSD card without reboot
> Not sure why anyone would need to switch SIM constantly...
gooing abroad - using a cheaper tariff
I would prefer a mutipexer for 4 sim cards...
but we already had this discussion.. on this li
Robert Michel writes:
>>
>> As far as we know, it requires powering-down the phone.
>
>Alternative:
>- small capacitator parallel to the battery
>- script/function that
>-- unmount the SD
>-- let the phone sleep for a while
Sure -- this is essentially the PalmOS solution.
>This is why I'm not
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> Salve Gabriel!
>
> Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 14:12h:
>>> Ok you are right, most devices with microSD will have Bluetooth,
>>> most cameras have no Bluetooth, but also using no microSD.
>>> An
Salve Gabriel!
Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 14:12h:
> > Ok you are right, most devices with microSD will have Bluetooth,
> > most cameras have no Bluetooth, but also using no microSD.
> > An normal size SD slot, usable from outside, would be fine :)
>
> You can use
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 14:04, Robert Michel wrote:
> Two things you have to carry with you.
>
> And USB 1(.1?) has only 11? Mbit/s.
> Copy 1 GByte = 727 seconds = 12 Minutes,
> this is quite slow.
Um with 128MB RAM it would be more like 100s which is to beat...
Yeah but how often do you do thi
Salve Gabriel!
Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 13:03h:
> On Tuesday 16 January 2007 10:53, Robert Michel wrote:
> > Hope that I haven't to hack my Neo1973 myself with my solder iron :)
>
> I still dont see why anyone would really need that. If you need to copy from
>
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 10:53, Robert Michel wrote:
> Hope that I haven't to hack my Neo1973 myself with my solder iron :)
I still dont see why anyone would really need that. If you need to copy from
microsd to microsd, attach a powered hub and SD reader to the Neo. Besides,
microsd is such a
Salve Grahame!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Grahame Falvey wrote:
> On 16/01/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Alternative:
> >- small capacitator parallel to the battery
> >- script/function that
> >-- unmount the SD
> >-- let the phone sleep for a while
> I know it's probably too late, b
On 16/01/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Salve Joe!
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Grahame Falvey writes:
> >
> >Is the microSD slot accessable while the phone is operational? Or
> >does one have to remove the battery and hence power down the device in
> >order to swap
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